Forum: bigfarm-en
Board: [1214] Contests & Awards
Topic: [34592] Forum Long Term Event - 1st round, Question 5
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Latten (DE1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 2:13 p.m.
Here's the question: How do you achieve the cooperative project "The Chicken or the Egg"?
(The solution for yesterday's question: 510! And, again, the EN Forums showed the rest of the world how it's done, I think you're the only one with a large majority on the correct answer, guys ^^)
Cabbage special seeds: 300
Humus premium: +60%
Benny Buddler: +10%
Water tower: it is just in the question to create confusion, since its function cannot be applied to this case
The correct way to find out:
300 + (60% + 10%) = 510 cabbage
If you calculate either one of the percentages into the 330% WITH Benny, you will get the wrong answer - as always in the game (and in math), both percentages are applied at the same time.
(The solution for yesterday's question: 510! And, again, the EN Forums showed the rest of the world how it's done, I think you're the only one with a large majority on the correct answer, guys ^^)
Cabbage special seeds: 300
Humus premium: +60%
Benny Buddler: +10%
Water tower: it is just in the question to create confusion, since its function cannot be applied to this case
The correct way to find out:
300 + (60% + 10%) = 510 cabbage
If you calculate either one of the percentages into the 330% WITH Benny, you will get the wrong answer - as always in the game (and in math), both percentages are applied at the same time.
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Sixkiller2 [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 3:30 p.m.
Hmmm, have you censored all the replies or is everyone buying that logic? That logic maybe the game's logic but not in math...
So, using your logic....Product A costs $100 +10% taxes and a discount of -10%, 100+(+10%-10%=0)= $100...? Not $99 ? Stock A ($100) goes up 10%, then another 10%= 100+(+10%+10%=20%)= $120 ? Or 121 ? In other words, +10% to the harvest, which is 480, is 528...or your logic 510....
Confused....
So, using your logic....Product A costs $100 +10% taxes and a discount of -10%, 100+(+10%-10%=0)= $100...? Not $99 ? Stock A ($100) goes up 10%, then another 10%= 100+(+10%+10%=20%)= $120 ? Or 121 ? In other words, +10% to the harvest, which is 480, is 528...or your logic 510....
Confused....
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Stork The Bear (GB1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 3:44 p.m.
Will you be publishing weekly results/leaderboards or do we have to wait until after the 4 weeks to find out where people are?
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Kittenluv [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 3:45 p.m.
Oh thank goodness i got it right! I was seriously doubting my math. LOL
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Larino (INT1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:07 p.m.
Sixkiller2 wrote: »Hmmm, have you censored all the replies or is everyone buying that logic? That logic maybe the game's logic but not in math...
So, using your logic....Product A costs $100 +10% taxes and a discount of -10%, 100+(+10%-10%=0)= $100...? Not $99 ? Stock A ($100) goes up 10%, then another 10%= 100+(+10%+10%=20%)= $120 ? Or 121 ? In other words, +10% to the harvest, which is 480, is 528...or your logic 510....
Confused....
You calculate the 10% over the 300 yield and the 60% over the 300 yield. That will be 30 and 180. You add the 30 and 180 to the 300 and get 510. Logic?
What you did was first calculate the 60% over 300 (makes 480) and then the 10% over the 480 (makes 528 ). Incorrect. Both percentages are calculated over the original yield and not over a yield + special percentage.
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!!!_396723 (GB1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:11 p.m.
Sixkiller2 wrote: »Hmmm, have you censored all the replies or is everyone buying that logic?
No, I don't buy the logic either, but I figured it was not worth commenting on because that's the way it works in the game.
Even though Benny's tool tip says you get +10% of the harvest - surely if you have 300 special cabbage and then premium humus it you have a total harvest of 480 which Benny should give you an extra 10% of. He's probably syphoning off the extra and selling it on the black market - or filling bubbles with it
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Larino (INT1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:12 p.m.
No, I don't buy the logic either, but I figured it was not worth commenting on because that's the way it works in the game.
Even though Benny's tool tip says you get +10% of the harvest - surely if you have 300 special cabbage and then premium humus it you have a total harvest of 480 which Benny should give you an extra 10% of.
Hodor, check my comment
You calculate both over the original yield. Not Benny over the yield with humus [726492]
!!!_396723 (GB1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:13 p.m.
Yes, I know how they work it - I'm just disagreeing with the logic.
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Larino (INT1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:15 p.m.
Yes, I know how they work it - I'm just disagreeing with the logic.
Oh okie ^^ I thought you did not understand how they got to it. My bad
I actually do not know whether I agree or disagree so I will leave that in the middle [726497]
Kakerullen (SKN1) [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:20 p.m.
He's probably syphoning off the extra and selling it on the black market - or filling bubbles with it
Yes. I wonder were the rest of humusharvest go when you get Benny to help you. :-)
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Barian [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:26 p.m.
How the Game works it out is the important thing here, and we have to take Latten's word for that.
His statement about Mathematics is, however, incorrect.
The Mathematically correct answer is 528.
The difference comes about because of the difference between language and mathematical statements
If I say "Two add three multiply by four" the answer is 20
If I write "2+3x4" the answer is 14
Because language works left to right, while in Maths you do multiplication before addition (unless there is a bracket of course)
His statement about Mathematics is, however, incorrect.
The Mathematically correct answer is 528.
The difference comes about because of the difference between language and mathematical statements
If I say "Two add three multiply by four" the answer is 20
If I write "2+3x4" the answer is 14
Because language works left to right, while in Maths you do multiplication before addition (unless there is a bracket of course)
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Sixkiller2 [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:31 p.m.
Yes, I understand the game's logic now, it was just the comments from Latten (...in math...), that I dissagreed about.
Edit. Just like Barian said.
Edit. Just like Barian said.
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monica79538 [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 4:58 p.m.
For as many times as the question for today has been answered, NO one should be getting this one wrong!
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AnnaCecilia [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 5:13 p.m.
Yes, I know how they work it - I'm just disagreeing with the logic.
So do I. I think GGS are cheating us with their false logic! Why would the 10% be calculated from the base yield if Benny gives us 10% more harvest. Surely that should be 10% of the total yield? Not quite fair in my opinion...
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PlayaLili4 [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 5:26 p.m.
I just did the task, and it was 510 no maths, no logic, no calculation...'keep calm and carry on' ;-)
no maths, no logic, no calculation...'keep calm and carry on' ;-) [726513]
ElizabethK [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2013, 5:30 p.m.
GGS logic, they don't compound interest, clear and simple. Doesn't matter if you would, they don't.
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WinnerMy_phil [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2013, 3:41 a.m.
hey todays ??? i think is a trick you need to really read it to under stand it i just hope i got it right
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jess_d (US1) [US1]
:: Sept. 28, 2013, 4:05 a.m.
WinnerMy_phil wrote: »hey todays ??? i think is a trick you need to really read it to under stand it i just hope i got it right
This is not really a trick question. They're asking what do you need to do in order to complete the Chicken or the Egg Project.
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Myriad3 [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2013, 7:24 a.m.
How the Game works it out is the important thing here, and we have to take Latten's word for that.
His statement about Mathematics is, however, incorrect.
The Mathematically correct answer is 528.
In math, both options are correct. It just depends on the situation how something should be calculated. In games, it is common (and completely logical) to apply any boost to the base value of something. Game-logic wise there was even a third option: applying only the largest boost. It's all valid, it's all logical, the question is just, how does BF do it? And that's not really something you can find out within the game unless you try (costing gold), because they never mention base yield or anything of the sort. They could be clearer about that in-game, to avoid confusion - not just for this question, but for the game itself as well.
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MalikBilal2 [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2013, 9:07 a.m.
I think ggs shouldn't give us questions that only gold buyers can get right