Looking at how it works it is going to take a long long time for resource players to get anywhere near a full set equivalent to what ruby buyers can achieve. I had earned sets in all three realms I have none of the new ones in any realms. So what is already a massive food deficit is now pretty much insurmountable hard to imagine other than money why a designer would do something to further demotivate and demoralise an already dispirited player base looking at yet more suspensions of cheats whose alliances get off scott free yet again.
maybe there was an argument to have many rv surrounding your main, to stop fast attacks, that has now gone, so no need now, because i search for perfection all saw mills stone quarrys and there buildings have all been deleted to make room for high deco.s
so unless they make them super RV i moved on from them, but still live in hope for new cast from shapeshifter , just anther gge promise broken
the Rv's spawn depending on the number of players entering a realm - on uk1 we have not seen a spawn in over 2 years - might be 3 due to the number of players going to ruins - looting over xmas showed only 3k actives !!!sittingbull11 (US1) said:Buying the private villages just sounds like a GGE Ruby pit!!!! The RVs are or were free if you could cap them .Everyone is saying,OHHHHHHHH the big alliances have captured all of the free RVs Why can't gge just make more free RVs rather than selling them to you!!!
Edit PS the private rv's can be bought for tokens earned in the sams or nomads ! so no ruby spend needed !
just for context.... that was a high for the UK/English language server, not a low!!!dandelion1958 (GB1) said:...... looting over xmas showed only 3k actives !!!
200 tokens.I.B.Evile (US1) said:difference of the 100 token price or 300 token price??/
BM Fujiwara said:1. I disagree. Firstly, they weren't free in practice, and you've been around long enough to know that as well as I do. Capturing RVs in the past were always double ruby sends and even then you were lucky if you got more than one or two as everyone else was racing for them as well. I spent huge amount of rubies getting the blasted things originally. Of course you could get them instead by an RV war, but that's always favoured the ruby players and the giant alliances for obvious reasons.
1. I disagree with you. I caught many of my RVs with wolves and very little rubies because I didn't really buy them then. I had a very easy time in the beginning finding the RVs until somebody decided to stop releasing them, which made it impossible for the little guy to get any, so they would go into ruins and quit the game. Whoever the greedy jmoke was at GGS, they ruined the game for so many other players. It was once a good game. Now it's not, it more like a full time job. You have to be fighting in like 5 or 6 different worlds at a time, trying to keep up with everything, and for me that's when the Ruby buying started. I don't know what the reason is but the owners of GGS choked the life out of their own game because of their immense greed.
2. This is also just not true. The top players already have full RVs. All this does for the whales is release 25 food RVs to the rest of the server quickly, alongside the RVs those "other players" are also choosing to buy with their event tokens (and not rubies - seriously, no-one is going to spend rubies on these other than the very top end, who don't get a great deal of a boost to show for it).
Yes, because GGS stopped letting more out for all the new players.
3. Shells don't hold onto these for great numbers of troops. They hold onto them because they're prize assets that are very hard to come by, so when some new player or returning old player comes back they can dump a stack of nice shiny stuff on that player. This will no longer be relevant for RVs. When shells are used for war troop stacking, those are generally bought on the fly, where RVs are also not useful as the troops are bought, sent until dead, repeat. RVs are a straw man argument for this.
Same answer as for #2 above.
4. Non ruby players have already spent the last 3 years dealing with 0 RVs and a 0% bonus in sand/fire compared to a 300% bonus for the big players in the big alliances. Now, we'll have a situation in a year's time where the top players have gone up from a 300 to a 400% bonus and the rest have gone up from a 0 to a 300% bonus. Some rather weak back of the envelope maths would suggest 400% food to 100% food is a bigger gap than 500% to 400% food, no?
And none of this would be necessary if it were not for the greed of GGS. And by the way, it took me almost 3 months to earn enough tokens to buy and upgrade the Relic Green house and I don't really see any benefit to that is worth the work to get it.
And one last comment since this thread is about RVs: what the hell did the developers do with the screen we see when looking at our RVs? Are they kidding? WTF use did they think we would get out of it?
The only useful part of this new screen is the one on the left where they separate the 3 types of RVs into Groups. The rest is useless. When I hover over the image on the left, all it says is "public village", then shows the 35%, which I already know since it can't be upgraded. Then it shows the number of troops where the name of the RV used to be. Then there is a button to station troops there and the village image when you hover says jump to it.
Now here's what I see when I look at another player's list of RVs and what I used to see with mine:
This screen shows the type of village, the kingdom it belongs to, the name of the RV (if you don't give it a name like above, it just shows the coordinates of the RV), next the compass shows the coordinates of the RV, the next icon is to jump to the village and the last shows the distance from your castle in that land to the RV. There could be a combination of the two that would be really helpful. But if they don't want to change it, then give us back what we had before.
No-one decided to stop releasing RVs. They still release. The thing is, when you and I were getting them, the number of players on a given kingdom map was going up - every time it got to the point where the edge of the map had to expand to fit in new players, new RVs spawned.
This has stopped happening now as the overall number of non-ruined players is not at its peak in most of the current servers, and this is definitely true on UK1 and US1 - because of this, no new RVs are spawning, but this is not due to some business decision at GGS, it's due to player population.
This is pretty much exactly why I do support the addition of private RVs. Now the heavy players are replacing their foods and dropping public ones, and it's freeing up those public ones to the res players and lighter players who would have no chance of getting them otherwise, and ofc the lighter players can also get RVs without even needing a fresh spawn to do so by getting private RVs of their own.
And the “heavy” players having bought them first and replaced them faster are now well over 2 million might points based on buying the level 15 private rvs whilst the rest of us are supposed to be happy with less for longer. Resource players regardless of how good they are performance wise are limited in the number of RVs they can obtain per round which creates a clear advantage for buyers which over 75 rvs or 75 rounds will be significant. And given to alliances have been exposed for cheating with players openly banned the practice of hoarding rvs in multi accounts and dead alliances doesn’t get any better in hindsight regardless of how many rvs you shouldn’t have had you drop. The gap is so enormous across all events now and in any war this whilst a problem isn’t the biggest issue honest players face. Until alliance bans are introduced with retrospective penalties game won’t be fair.
Sorry to tell you but this is absolutely not true. I bookmarked a tower on Evergreen more than 6 years ago and there is still nothing that has come up there. However, there were RVs still spawning on Sands and Fire for almost 2 years later. Now where did all the new players come from in these 2 worlds if so many were going into ruins in Everwinter? I really thinkg that GGS believes we are all stupid. I'll tell you, from the Ruby Whales that GGS supports like there is no tomorrow and drops poop on the rest of the players. These large alliances who use lots of Rubies are cheating like there is no tomorrow with the RVs. When an alliance member quits the game and goes into ruins, the alliance takes all of their RVs and stashes them somewhere, so that they retain these RVs. They do this by creating a lot of Alts in their alliances and even taking the keys to those in Ruins and bringing them out so that others can't get any. GGS has promised to stop all of this cheating, but they have not done the job they promised, so Yes, it is the fault of GGS. And the second part of that is buying these Village Tokens for Private RVs, which you can only get by spending more and more and more rubies to earn them in the events that are not good for anyone who doesn't spend on large amounts of Rubies.BM Fujiwara said:@LadyThundara (US1)
No-one decided to stop releasing RVs. They still release. The thing is, when you and I were getting them, the number of players on a given kingdom map was going up - every time it got to the point where the edge of the map had to expand to fit in new players, new RVs spawned.
This has stopped happening now as the overall number of non-ruined players is not at its peak in most of the current servers, and this is definitely true on UK1 and US1 - because of this, no new RVs are spawning, but this is not due to some business decision at GGS, it's due to player population.
This is pretty much exactly why I do support the addition of private RVs. Now the heavy players are replacing their foods and dropping public oSorrynes, and it's freeing up those public ones to the res players and lighter players who would have no chance of getting them otherwise, and ofc the lighter players can also get RVs without even needing a fresh spawn to do so by getting private RVs of their own.
So until GGS keeps up with their promises the only playing these ridiculous events are those that are spending the huge amounts of money.

