Forum: empire-en
Board: [580] Update Questions & Feedback
Topic: [368425] Beyond the Horizon - Feedback
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Joe Pineapples (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 25, 2019, 9:35 p.m.
So yeah, what a great bit of coding (not). Took me about 15 minutes to log in and load the event, ground my laptop to a near standstill and frankly after a look around worked out that I'd need a gold card (or a 2nd mortgage) to actually get anywhere in it.
First glance suggests it's a hotch-potch of the worst features from Outer Realms, Berimond and Storm wrapped up in a new (and frankly visually irritating) skin.
Reminds me of a bar I visited about 15 years ago. Went there once and will never go there again.
So I decided to go back to the main server and guess what? Going over the edge to "Beyond the Horizon" and the "Mangled Wildebeest" completely messed up my cached password and I had to clear all my browser settings to get back into the main server.
How about you sort the events you currently have running - let's have some decent Bloodcrow and Foreign Lords targets for a start. I mean I thought they were supposed to be representative of players on other country's servers. I've never encountered a Lvl 70 with only 500 defenders in their main castle before. And why don't they attack back anymore?
Get what you've already got right and more interesting first before throwing in half-baked, glitchy, events that can only be played on a Cray supercomputer that's been overclocked.
A final note: I noticed the stream of "Special Offer" spam emails have started up again. If you're going to do this, then have the common decency to let me delete them! OK I understand you're a business and want to make money, but you might find people spend a bit and new players stay in the game longer if you actually made it a bit more about skill and a lot less about how big your bank account is.
First glance suggests it's a hotch-potch of the worst features from Outer Realms, Berimond and Storm wrapped up in a new (and frankly visually irritating) skin.
Reminds me of a bar I visited about 15 years ago. Went there once and will never go there again.
So I decided to go back to the main server and guess what? Going over the edge to "Beyond the Horizon" and the "Mangled Wildebeest" completely messed up my cached password and I had to clear all my browser settings to get back into the main server.
How about you sort the events you currently have running - let's have some decent Bloodcrow and Foreign Lords targets for a start. I mean I thought they were supposed to be representative of players on other country's servers. I've never encountered a Lvl 70 with only 500 defenders in their main castle before. And why don't they attack back anymore?
Get what you've already got right and more interesting first before throwing in half-baked, glitchy, events that can only be played on a Cray supercomputer that's been overclocked.
A final note: I noticed the stream of "Special Offer" spam emails have started up again. If you're going to do this, then have the common decency to let me delete them! OK I understand you're a business and want to make money, but you might find people spend a bit and new players stay in the game longer if you actually made it a bit more about skill and a lot less about how big your bank account is.
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Keenanxbox (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 25, 2019, 11:01 p.m.
welp might be time to quit sick of GGS moving the goalposts on us every week not stupid enough to spend money on this game for that reason
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Wasso (INT3) [INT3]
:: Oct. 25, 2019, 11:10 p.m.
...and on another note: Are there ONLY 1000 places for rewards?
This will mean that small Alliances may as well not bother. As this is an ALL Server Event, there are way more than 1,000 Alliances to play. There are in fact, as of this posting: 5385 Alliances in there.
Take into consideration that the 65 Player Alliances will take FOUR yes, up to FOUR Alliances each, that leaves little room for anyone else. Even with the Major Alliances only REALLY having 3 - 20 player Alliances, that still results in only having room for 333 - 65 Player Alliances, and my 1 man Alliance.
Ultimate result: NO ONE EXCEPT THE LARGEST ALLIANCES (and that means Largest Spenders) WILL BE GETTING THE NEW BUILDING MATERIALS.
This wouldn't be THAT big a deal, if those rewards were available in other ways. OR if there were OTHER rewards able to be gained. In regular Events, my Alliance rarly (but, sometimes does!) make the 1st tier rewards. Even when I don't, I still get other rewards for playing. In this one? There is NOTHING for place 1001 and below. Even if you were to play your TAIL OFF, there is NOTHING in return for your efforts.
The rest of us, may as well focus on Berimond. They give out Silver Coins after all. That is almost as good.....
This will mean that small Alliances may as well not bother. As this is an ALL Server Event, there are way more than 1,000 Alliances to play. There are in fact, as of this posting: 5385 Alliances in there.
Take into consideration that the 65 Player Alliances will take FOUR yes, up to FOUR Alliances each, that leaves little room for anyone else. Even with the Major Alliances only REALLY having 3 - 20 player Alliances, that still results in only having room for 333 - 65 Player Alliances, and my 1 man Alliance.
Ultimate result: NO ONE EXCEPT THE LARGEST ALLIANCES (and that means Largest Spenders) WILL BE GETTING THE NEW BUILDING MATERIALS.
This wouldn't be THAT big a deal, if those rewards were available in other ways. OR if there were OTHER rewards able to be gained. In regular Events, my Alliance rarly (but, sometimes does!) make the 1st tier rewards. Even when I don't, I still get other rewards for playing. In this one? There is NOTHING for place 1001 and below. Even if you were to play your TAIL OFF, there is NOTHING in return for your efforts.
The rest of us, may as well focus on Berimond. They give out Silver Coins after all. That is almost as good.....
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sir o the wise (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 12:02 a.m.
New bug - I moved my castle about 40 minutes ago in the new event. It said it would take 10 minutes, and has now counted down to 0, but my castle has not moved, and when I try to attack it says I am still moving. Please tell me I'm not stuck in limbo for the rest of the event.
Update: after about 2 hours, my castle moved to where it was supposed to.
Update: after about 2 hours, my castle moved to where it was supposed to.
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Fordy (AU1) [AU1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 1:33 a.m.
Finally got in its different enough I guess to at least be of interest to some. however its a ruby whale feast as many have mentioned and the fact that the rewards stop at top 1k alliances and there are 5.7k now means a lot of players will be disappointed and stop playing this very quickly. The fact its where the new materials are and a full on ruby feast shows that this is just a money grabbing exercise by GGE.
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bernhardt (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 2:40 a.m.
I don't know why anybody(including me) has bothered to post after 11am CET(German time) on a Friday. Nobody from GGE reads them after that time on any workday. Since it's Friday and there's a whole weekend for posts and people to 'forget' the latest GGE shaft and for posts to add up to the point of too many to bother reading none will be read by a GGE employee. EVER. Not ignored. Not read. EVER.
I might be a little jaded, but I don't think so. GGE has such an awesome track record....
With this event, it's looking like the biggest up yours is being given to the biggest ruby buyers since it's so obvious that rezzie players don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting anything.
I might be a little jaded, but I don't think so. GGE has such an awesome track record....
With this event, it's looking like the biggest up yours is being given to the biggest ruby buyers since it's so obvious that rezzie players don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting anything.
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famousjohn82 (AU1) [AU1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 3:46 a.m.
Another thing... There is no way to tell which alliance capitals you can attack and which ones you have already attacked and therefore can't. Also a timer giving the time till we can attack again would be nice if we can attack it again after a while whether its once a day or every 4h or something.
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Fordy (AU1) [AU1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 4:18 a.m.
Just grabbed a city state but now those troops have gone, my food consumption shows them as gone too. I thought they would come back with the influence? Its impossible to play if that happens as I dont have enough coins now to recruit enough to hit a tower,,, or is this just a regular GGE bug?
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bernhardt (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 4:51 a.m.
Did you just capture it, or did the 8hr run out? If you just captured it, I would try stationing my troops(all but one) from it. If the latter, probably a bug. If the former, and you can't station troops from it, maybe they get fed from there during the occupation and GGE made the city states a troop pit.
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Fordy (AU1) [AU1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 5 a.m.
capped and then the time ran out
its a bug for sure should have returned
Have been able to replicate, capped another but it still has another hour to go but my troops are gone again
The plot thickens..lol now I have extra unassigned Castilians..lol
You have to wonder why they always pick a Friday to release new events
its a bug for sure should have returned
Have been able to replicate, capped another but it still has another hour to go but my troops are gone again
The plot thickens..lol now I have extra unassigned Castilians..lol
You have to wonder why they always pick a Friday to release new events
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kabouterse (NL1) [NL1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 8:36 a.m.
Concept of horizon event is new and super.
Each event principle is the same: you spend time or money to get it done.
If you don't spend money on an event, you still can achieve some nice ranking.
This event cannot be played if you don't buy.
Reason: soldiers cost more gold than they can purchase by conquering something.
Each event principle is the same: you spend time or money to get it done.
If you don't spend money on an event, you still can achieve some nice ranking.
This event cannot be played if you don't buy.
Reason: soldiers cost more gold than they can purchase by conquering something.
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Osiris (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 9:52 a.m.
24 hours in, and it's definitely clear this is less Horizon Event and more Event Horizon
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 10:48 a.m.
Event is completly ass, some alliances got split into over 10 alliances, others don't have an alliance capitals thus can't loose points (example celtic storm), I and others want a refund of the money spent as it is not a fair competition and does not function as advertised, if that means I cannopt compete in this iteration of the event I'll happily accept it, as that would be fair
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flug (NL1) [NL1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 10:52 a.m.
Once again I can't log in there 
I still wonder why an event started without seeing if they can handle the maximum. It seems as if just something is being done. event is not interesting enough to wait for minutes before I am logged in. nice event for the players who don't look for a euro more or less
I still wonder why an event started without seeing if they can handle the maximum. It seems as if just something is being done. event is not interesting enough to wait for minutes before I am logged in. nice event for the players who don't look for a euro more or less [5080903]
Cris-P-Bacon (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 11:12 a.m.
Herveus (AU1) said:Event is completly ass, some alliances got split into over 10 alliances, others don't have an alliance capitals thus can't loose points (example celtic storm), I and others want a refund of the money spent as it is not a fair competition and does not function as advertised, if that means I cannopt compete in this iteration of the event I'll happily accept it, as that would be fairDidn't even notice that, sending in a ticket too
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 12:08 p.m.
You advertised for a game balance manager on facebook the other day, I can only assume you dont have anyone doing this role in the company at the moment as even by gge's horrible track record this event goes to show just how little thought you give to the actual mechanics / balance of the game.
The rewards are pitiful, if you outside the top couple of alliances on all servers you may as well forget it. less than 20% of all players entering the event will actually get any rewards at all.
The moment you are faced with entering the game you are bombarded with offers and within a very short period of time you realise that unless you actually buy these offers you have zero chance of actually doing anything in the event. the offers for me basically meant i had to spend £100. you expect me to spend £100 on an event i know others are payign around £30 for same thing players i will be competing against. On an event thats so buggy and glitchy it appears thats its barely half finished, and spend £100 on an event that there is an 80% chance i wont get anything at all back.
Alliance events are all well and good and I love the idea of them. But alliance events that only depend on how much you spend ? that doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me, so if i spend £500 on event and the rest of my alliance spend £0 how is that going to work?
Alliance events like this would work brilliantly if it was based around hard work and effort, it may even work if it was based in the existing relm, but if all your alliance is in this new relm what does that do to you proper alliance ? you expect it to become totally undefended?
Yet again you have released a game that is so horribly imbalanced in almost every aspect, you have got this one so far wrong your greed shines through from every level. These kind of games have always worked on the premise of with hard work and effort you can match the advantages of players who spend real money, the advantages they get are baisically time savers ie they can do everything quicker. With this event you have basically made it impossible for anyone to do anything without spending.
If this wasnt bad enough you have released an event that is so buggy and glitchy its a shambles, yet again you released it on a friday, which wouldnt be so bad if you worked weekends but yet again you have thrown somethign out there with no ability to fix it in a timely fashion.
if you had to rate yourself for this event, seriously what would you give yourself? because for me you missed the mark in every aspect. Yet again you have taken what could possibly have been in interesting concept and botched it so badly, through a combination of shoddy programming / woefully inadequate testing. And non existant game balance.
I would struggle to give you 1 out of 10.
Why are you not learning from your mistakes? you keep makign the same ones over and over and over again.
The rewards are pitiful, if you outside the top couple of alliances on all servers you may as well forget it. less than 20% of all players entering the event will actually get any rewards at all.
The moment you are faced with entering the game you are bombarded with offers and within a very short period of time you realise that unless you actually buy these offers you have zero chance of actually doing anything in the event. the offers for me basically meant i had to spend £100. you expect me to spend £100 on an event i know others are payign around £30 for same thing players i will be competing against. On an event thats so buggy and glitchy it appears thats its barely half finished, and spend £100 on an event that there is an 80% chance i wont get anything at all back.
Alliance events are all well and good and I love the idea of them. But alliance events that only depend on how much you spend ? that doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me, so if i spend £500 on event and the rest of my alliance spend £0 how is that going to work?
Alliance events like this would work brilliantly if it was based around hard work and effort, it may even work if it was based in the existing relm, but if all your alliance is in this new relm what does that do to you proper alliance ? you expect it to become totally undefended?
Yet again you have released a game that is so horribly imbalanced in almost every aspect, you have got this one so far wrong your greed shines through from every level. These kind of games have always worked on the premise of with hard work and effort you can match the advantages of players who spend real money, the advantages they get are baisically time savers ie they can do everything quicker. With this event you have basically made it impossible for anyone to do anything without spending.
If this wasnt bad enough you have released an event that is so buggy and glitchy its a shambles, yet again you released it on a friday, which wouldnt be so bad if you worked weekends but yet again you have thrown somethign out there with no ability to fix it in a timely fashion.
if you had to rate yourself for this event, seriously what would you give yourself? because for me you missed the mark in every aspect. Yet again you have taken what could possibly have been in interesting concept and botched it so badly, through a combination of shoddy programming / woefully inadequate testing. And non existant game balance.
I would struggle to give you 1 out of 10.
Why are you not learning from your mistakes? you keep makign the same ones over and over and over again.
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serpentine (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 12:29 p.m.
yep caped a city state. battle rep shows zero losses but all troops gone. not at city not at main. little point in sending out a capture if you lose everything on a 'win'Fordy (AU1) said:Just grabbed a city state but now those troops have gone, my food consumption shows them as gone too. I thought they would come back with the influence? Its impossible to play if that happens as I dont have enough coins now to recruit enough to hit a tower,,, or is this just a regular GGE bug?
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maria leventis (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 12:58 p.m.
This is one of the worst events i've encountered on any game. Unless you're prepared to spend lots of money on rubies, it's absolutely pointless. You can't earn enough coins or food to do anything other than be a sitting duck to feed the players who spend rubies. AND, how come when two players of different levels both use the exact same set up and troops and target exactly the same cultist towers, the players at lower levels always lose, and those at higher levels lose virtually no troops??? How does that even make any sense? Your algorithm is flawed.
Don't bother if you're not already in unless you wanna be fleeced. Better off focussing on stuff that will help your main game more, like Beri
Don't bother if you're not already in unless you wanna be fleeced. Better off focussing on stuff that will help your main game more, like Beri
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Death Spear (IN1) [IN1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 3:12 p.m.
The only way to play this event is to buy the packs, you get no coins from any other source..you can hit those rbcs and get 20 coins, that's very cool, guess people have to quit their life and play this event 24/7 or spend a ton of money to play this event and the amount of thinking that went to the reward system is beyond anything in this universe..
Most importantly GGS made purchasing rubies a lot easier than entering the event itself i can click add rubies in 3 different packs or the add rubies button near the rubies display but i am stuck in the loading screen for at least 2-3 reloads when i want to enter..
welcome to marketing strategies with GGS
Most importantly GGS made purchasing rubies a lot easier than entering the event itself i can click add rubies in 3 different packs or the add rubies button near the rubies display but i am stuck in the loading screen for at least 2-3 reloads when i want to enter..
welcome to marketing strategies with GGS
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Liana (INT1) [INT1]
:: Oct. 26, 2019, 4:08 p.m.
I would also like to know thisExperiment_626 (US1) said:Will rubies purchased in Beyond the Horizon transfer back to main at the end of the event?
@Crom Cruach would you have any light you can shed on this matter?