Forum: empire-en
Board: [584] Players ask Players
Topic: [344269] entering general terms and conditions did not go well
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koos69 (NL1) [None]
:: Nov. 30, 2017, 10:47 a.m.
hoi Angus,
GGE is not that easy for me.
there is a difference between 2012 and 2014.
unilaterally offered change has no legal basis and should therefore be confirmed for approval to the other party.
to say a few YES is not good enough by law
I also have rights to a free choice ????
goodgame does not give 1 month in advance and not how goodgame has done when logging in required to say yes ??
where was NO and at NO money could get back or cancel ???
Therefore, the customer is not to take action if they do not agree with the change.
I hold GGE to general conditions 2012.
GGE You can say what they want but the law is for everyone and also to keep.
The supplier (supplier) has the burden of proof that the consumer / buyer has received and accepted the general conditions.
The supplier (supplier) will have to show the burden of proof to the court.
He must personally inform you about this change as much as possible. In front of
for example with a letter, e-mail or text message. Is he only introducing the
change in the newspaper? Then that is not enough.
Is the change detrimental for you? Then he must let you know that you can
cancel your subscription
GGE has done will also have to prove to the court
for me I keep GGE on general terms and conditions 2012, yet GGE has no evidence for court
Pronunciation art. 6.233 and 6.234 on (pre) contractual obligation of the provider.
On February 11 of this year the February 2011 published by the Supreme Court on 11 ruling was published
about the validity of the General Terms and Conditions and interim changes herein
the choice makes GGE solution or court.
I think it's fair that you are the first with an answer to it
gr koos69
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Lady Nym (US1) [US1]
:: Nov. 30, 2017, 2:34 p.m.
lol. just lol.
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Friedrich IV (US1) [None]
:: Nov. 30, 2017, 4:52 p.m.
Most online games say you agree to the T&Cs by logging in
Just saying...
Just saying...
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alexandersecond (GB1) [None]
:: Nov. 30, 2017, 5:25 p.m.
As far as I can see, you agreed with the terms and conditions, paid 35k euros and then all of a sudden you decided that you don't agree with the terms and conditions anymore? Well, if you actually read the terms and conditions, you'd know that you won't get your money back.
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Silver threat (NL1) [None]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 12:17 a.m.
I think Koos has a point ... but it will be a difficult battle. Wish you all the luck.
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detedudu (INT2) [None]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 9:15 a.m.
I have seen too many of these type of threads by now. People threatening to sue GGE. People threatening to put them in court. But do they ever do that? No. Those people who are saying that are only doing so to get attention.
"I demand a solution otherwise lawsuit"
I would be very careful if i were you with writing those types of things. Many courts does not like to see these type of statements and this could backfire on you in a real court scenario.
If you wish to lawsuit GGE, then please act somewhat professional by not making a thread on their forums about it.
It's your right to try this in court if you so demand, but the chances of that something is actually going to happen are very slim.
Now this thread should be closed.
This is a topic for the support and developer teams, not the forum team.
"I demand a solution otherwise lawsuit"
I would be very careful if i were you with writing those types of things. Many courts does not like to see these type of statements and this could backfire on you in a real court scenario.
If you wish to lawsuit GGE, then please act somewhat professional by not making a thread on their forums about it.
It's your right to try this in court if you so demand, but the chances of that something is actually going to happen are very slim.
Now this thread should be closed.
This is a topic for the support and developer teams, not the forum team.
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Lady Nym (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 9:17 a.m.
What is your issue anyway? ToS have always been in the game and you can always read them when you like. If you agree to the terms then you play and if you don't then you find a new game.
If you are talking about the time when GGE made a change to the ToS. They did let us know and i believe they even sent everyone a message about it.
If you are talking about the time when GGE made a change to the ToS. They did let us know and i believe they even sent everyone a message about it.
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koos69 (NL1) [None]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 11:38 a.m.
Freedom of expression is the freedom of citizens to express their convictions.
The freedom of expression is, among other things, anchored in article 10 ECHR, article 19 of the ICCPR, article 7 of the Dutch Constitution and articles 19 and 25
I have the right to be able to talk freely on the forum here
if not, it will also be challenged. no one can keep me silent
the law said enough how to introduce new general conditions
GGE will also have to comply with the law
if GGE makes my mouth dead to answer more than 40 mails. I have the right to make my statement known here on the forum.
I live in the Netherlands and I am subject to Dutch law
knot but good in your ears no one silenced me
what you tell is not warm and cold.
GGE must comply with Dutch laws, it is GGE's choice to solve it
I am waiting for what GGE is going to do
if not, another is no way out of court.
I stand up for my rights, if you walk behind GGE is your choice
The freedom of expression is, among other things, anchored in article 10 ECHR, article 19 of the ICCPR, article 7 of the Dutch Constitution and articles 19 and 25
I have the right to be able to talk freely on the forum here
if not, it will also be challenged. no one can keep me silent
the law said enough how to introduce new general conditions
GGE will also have to comply with the law
if GGE makes my mouth dead to answer more than 40 mails. I have the right to make my statement known here on the forum.
I live in the Netherlands and I am subject to Dutch law
knot but good in your ears no one silenced me
what you tell is not warm and cold.
GGE must comply with Dutch laws, it is GGE's choice to solve it
I am waiting for what GGE is going to do
if not, another is no way out of court.
I stand up for my rights, if you walk behind GGE is your choice
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ouschak is back (INT1) [None]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 11:40 a.m.
Lol
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Defectus (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 11:52 a.m.
No one is saying that you don't have the right to talk on the forums about this. What I believe they are saying is that it will likely do no favors for you if you truly wish to carry out this lawsuit.koos69 (NL1) said:Freedom of expression is the freedom of citizens to express their convictions.
The freedom of expression is, among other things, anchored in article 10 ECHR, article 19 of the ICCPR, article 7 of the Dutch Constitution and articles 19 and 25
I have the right to be able to talk freely on the forum here
if not, it will also be challenged. no one can keep me silent
the law said enough how to introduce new general conditions
GGE will also have to comply with the law
if GGE makes my mouth dead to answer more than 40 mails. I have the right to make my statement known here on the forum.
I live in the Netherlands and I am subject to Dutch law
knot but good in your ears no one silenced me
what you tell is not warm and cold.
GGE must comply with Dutch laws, it is GGE's choice to solve it
I am waiting for what GGE is going to do
if not, another is no way out of court.
I stand up for my rights, if you walk behind GGE is your choice
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koos69 (NL1) [None]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 12:10 p.m.
YEP the laws already said enough
fortunately I live and the Netherlands and here you can find and think everything.
here the judge looks at some after the law and how it has been introduced. the rest no added values to it
yes, in VS it is different, GGE can do everything
I stand up for my consumer rights
there is nothing wrong with that
and did not forget so that I had come here forums already 4 weeks more than 40 mails after support have sent and received no reply back. I'm going to do that too. and give GGE every opportunity to respond to it
Dutch law = no vs laws
fortunately I live and the Netherlands and here you can find and think everything.
here the judge looks at some after the law and how it has been introduced. the rest no added values to it
yes, in VS it is different, GGE can do everything
I stand up for my consumer rights
there is nothing wrong with that
and did not forget so that I had come here forums already 4 weeks more than 40 mails after support have sent and received no reply back. I'm going to do that too. and give GGE every opportunity to respond to it
Dutch law = no vs laws
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koos69 (NL1) [None]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 1:09 p.m.
in those mails with 3 questions
1 I can get general terms and conditions 2012.
2 can tell the difference in 2012 and 2014 can indicate.
3 where was the free choice.
The questions are not that difficult.
if support can not respond to it
but I can fill it out.
is then the way to talk on forum
difficult questions, the doors shut and mouth shut and light.
if mod, s can read my messages can also neatly answer my questions
and not to turn the hot mush
1 I can get general terms and conditions 2012.
2 can tell the difference in 2012 and 2014 can indicate.
3 where was the free choice.
The questions are not that difficult.
if support can not respond to it
but I can fill it out.
is then the way to talk on forum
difficult questions, the doors shut and mouth shut and light.
if mod, s can read my messages can also neatly answer my questions
and not to turn the hot mush
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Friedrich IV (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 1, 2017, 4:02 p.m.
To me this looks like yet another Dutch player complaining that GGS has started occasionally enforcing their account/pw sharing and multi accounting policies.
Thread closed, if you would like to open another one with some sort of coherent topic other than repeating "sue GGS" and synonyms you're more than welcome to.
Thread closed, if you would like to open another one with some sort of coherent topic other than repeating "sue GGS" and synonyms you're more than welcome to.