Forum: empire-en
Board: [584] Players ask Players
Topic: [75876] Tips for capturing an outpost
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The awesomeness3 [None]
:: Aug. 13, 2012, 4:19 p.m.
I'm a level 13 and I would like an outpost (well duh) I just sent a spy with 34% risk and he got caught X( Please help.
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mdaudali (GB1) [None]
:: Aug. 13, 2012, 4:44 p.m.
well, if your failing espionage, then build more taverns, you can build 3. Im your level, so when i espionaged a outpost all they had was farmers, A LOT of farmers, so send lots of troops
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Aug. 13, 2012, 5:26 p.m.
Send the spy again. You had a 34% chance of failing and you got unlucky. I don't understand why you need help.
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Duralatus2 [None]
:: Aug. 13, 2012, 6:50 p.m.
Farmers have a defence value against ranged/melee of 9.
That means if there are 30 farmers on a wall they have a defence value of 270, incremented by wall defences (base 20%).
You should be able to work the rest out, but very basicaly, if you send a force of less than 350 AP against that wall and use no ladders etc. well, you're gonna have a bad day! (you could potentially send a force of 270 and use ladders, but there would be heavy losses).
Hope that helps.
That means if there are 30 farmers on a wall they have a defence value of 270, incremented by wall defences (base 20%).
You should be able to work the rest out, but very basicaly, if you send a force of less than 350 AP against that wall and use no ladders etc. well, you're gonna have a bad day! (you could potentially send a force of 270 and use ladders, but there would be heavy losses).
Hope that helps.
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PeterKlinting [None]
:: Aug. 13, 2012, 7:06 p.m.
An outpost that has no owner yet has the following defense: (left flank/middle/right flank/courtyard)
5 farmers/10 farmers/5 farmers/53 farmers with a total defense of 657 (with +30% on courtyard it's 498 )
5 farmers/10 farmers/5 farmers/53 farmers with a total defense of 657 (with +30% on courtyard it's 498 )
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The awesomeness3 [None]
:: Aug. 15, 2012, 1:27 a.m.
So anything above 500 attack force should be good?
I calculated my forces I have 501 AP (all flanks) with -30%left -20%right and -80% front
I calculated my forces I have 501 AP (all flanks) with -30%left -20%right and -80% front
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Aug. 15, 2012, 7:28 a.m.
I would send as much as possible. You really don't want to be having heavy losses, so get all your (attack) troops gathered up and attack. I would attack with as much as 60 troops (of course, if you're using macemen and crossbowmen). Just make sure that they don't run out of food when you win the outpost.
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PSCHAN (HANT1) [None]
:: Aug. 15, 2012, 7:40 a.m.
The awesomeness3 wrote: »I'm a level 13 and I would like an outpost (well duh) I just sent a spy with 34% risk and he got caught X( Please help.
Hey, I don't think thats the point, for NEW outposts, there are only farmers so take it easy, send out some Crossbowman or Maceman to capture it, or you can capture others' running outposts if you have enough fighting power!
Make sure, the new outpost has a very very low crop production, so if you do not want your maceman to die out, ensure you build farms RIGHT after you have captured the outpost.
^^^^
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The awesomeness3 [None]
:: Aug. 15, 2012, 4:51 p.m.
So send as much as possible and then build farms INSTANTLY?
Is it bad i'm sending archers, spearmen, swordsmen,and archers?
Is it bad i'm sending archers, spearmen, swordsmen,and archers?
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Aug. 15, 2012, 5:13 p.m.
The awesomeness3 wrote: »Is it bad i'm sending archers, spearmen, swordsmen,and archers?
Well, as long as you aren't using the achers or spearmen in attack, I think it's fine. You need a good defense in your outpost because people can attack it and, worse than that, they can even capture it.
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The awesomeness3 [None]
:: Aug. 15, 2012, 5:15 p.m.
so to capture it in battle anythuing but spearmen and archers? then after send them to defend?
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Aug. 15, 2012, 5:19 p.m.
The awesomeness3 wrote: »so to capture it in battle anythuing but spearmen and archers? then after send them to defend?
Yes. Except in very rare cases, you should not use defensive soldiers in an attack.
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Duterte (INT1) [None]
:: Aug. 16, 2012, 9:37 a.m.
This newbie got an outpost ... 
Outpost {Espionage=75%}
L=4 F=9 R=4 C=45 {62 = all farmers}
Outpost {Actual}
L=5 F=10 R=5 C=53 {11 farmers unaccounted by espionage}
Attack Troops {Flanks MAXed out at 40}
L=8x F=14m,10x R=8x {m=maceman, x=crossbowman ; both attack class}
Attack Tools
L=1H F=2H R=1H {H=ladder}
Victory Stats
Me= 40 ( -8 ) Outpost= ( -73 )
{outnumbered by +33 farmers, not bad huh? 8)}
I was actually thinking of clicking the retreat icon thinking I was outnumbered with 40 max troops which is less than the courtyard count of 45 farmers alone knowing that espionage is not 100% accurate. But then I just though "What the heck... JUST DO IT!" hehe...
Outpost {Espionage=75%}
L=4 F=9 R=4 C=45 {62 = all farmers}
Outpost {Actual}
L=5 F=10 R=5 C=53 {11 farmers unaccounted by espionage}
Attack Troops {Flanks MAXed out at 40}
L=8x F=14m,10x R=8x {m=maceman, x=crossbowman ; both attack class}
Attack Tools
L=1H F=2H R=1H {H=ladder}
Victory Stats
Me= 40 ( -8 ) Outpost= ( -73 )
{outnumbered by +33 farmers, not bad huh? 8)}
I was actually thinking of clicking the retreat icon thinking I was outnumbered with 40 max troops which is less than the courtyard count of 45 farmers alone knowing that espionage is not 100% accurate. But then I just though "What the heck... JUST DO IT!" hehe...