Forum: empire-en
Board: [584] Players ask Players
Topic: [76428] How on Earth did I lose?????
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georgesgems [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:25 p.m.
Hope I can be helped, I have spent all morning making enough money to recruit soldiers to go to battle. I have just sent 90 soldiers to battle, including Mace-men, Swordsmen and Archers as well as Battering Rams ladders etc, I was mob handed.
I done the espionage etc and was up against 67 soldiers at the RBC.
As you can guess I lost the battle and they only lost 38 men.
Is this the norm and what can I do different next time? How many soldiers and equipment should I have taken.
Now I have to spend another 8 hours making enough money to get the soldiers back
Thanks
I done the espionage etc and was up against 67 soldiers at the RBC.
As you can guess I lost the battle and they only lost 38 men.
Is this the norm and what can I do different next time? How many soldiers and equipment should I have taken.
Now I have to spend another 8 hours making enough money to get the soldiers back
Thanks
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~Farsight~ [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:29 p.m.
you sent in defenders
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georgesgems [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:31 p.m.
~Farsight~ wrote: »you sent in defenders
What do you mean? They are all attackers aren't they?
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~Farsight~ [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:32 p.m.
swordsmen are not that good in attack and archers are defenders, sorry
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georgesgems [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:36 p.m.
~Farsight~ wrote: »swordsmen are not that good in attack and archers are defenders, sorry
Out of all the soldiers I sent 79 were macemen, they are attackers yes?
What would you have sent?
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SadhappyRuler (ASIA1) [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:37 p.m.
Watch out for their weaknesses.Put a 100% accurate espionage. See the stats of each soldiers and you will find that -
take out spear men and crossbowmen with crossbowmen.
take out the mace men and bowmen with mace men.
And do NOT send the archers to attack.They are your best barracks level 3 defenders but they have just 10 attack power.Just create macemen and crossbowmen.Swordsmen are a bit expensive.
if you have 2 waves of attack,use the first one as the martyr wave to take out tools.You would then need less tools.
take out spear men and crossbowmen with crossbowmen.
take out the mace men and bowmen with mace men.
And do NOT send the archers to attack.They are your best barracks level 3 defenders but they have just 10 attack power.Just create macemen and crossbowmen.Swordsmen are a bit expensive.
if you have 2 waves of attack,use the first one as the martyr wave to take out tools.You would then need less tools.
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georgesgems [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:39 p.m.
dos santos wrote: »Watch out for their weaknesses.See the stats of each soldiers and you will find that -
take out spear men and crossbowmen with crossbowmen.
take out the mace men and bowmen with mace men.
And do NOT send the archers to attack.They are your best barracks level 3 defenders but they have just 10 attack power.Just create macemen and crossbowmen.Swordsmen are a bit expensive.
if you have 2 waves of attack,use the first one as the martyr wave to take out tools.You would then need less tools.
Thanks, so what should my 90 soldiers ideally consisted of and I will start again?
Thanks
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Baldrick (GB1) [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:40 p.m.
If you would care to post the battle reports we cold help you with a few pointers.
Battles are not simply to do with numbers, troops types, tools, formation and spying all play their part.
Battles are not simply to do with numbers, troops types, tools, formation and spying all play their part.
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LordVako [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:40 p.m.
First of all I'm sorry yu lost your troops for which recruitment you spent your timegeorgesgems wrote: »What do you mean? They are all attackers aren't they?
Second Swordsmen and Archers are defenders I know it says all purpose but they are good for defense
well Archers are good for defense as the info says all round defender.
an easy way to understand which troops are good for attack or defense just hover your mouse over there icon in the barracks and it should tell you what the said troops/soldier is good for also it will tell you against which type of troop (melee or ranged ) it is good. also you can click the blue i next to the picture and it will tell you things in detail...
P.s Mace-men are attacking troops
Hope I helped
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georgesgems [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:44 p.m.
If you would care to post the battle reports we cold help you with a few pointers.
Battles are not simply to do with numbers, troops types, tools, formation and spying all play their part.
Hi there Thanks how do I do that?
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SadhappyRuler (ASIA1) [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 2:47 p.m.
I think you do not need 90 soldiers at all.georgesgems wrote: »Thanks, so what should my 90 soldiers ideally consisted of and I will start again?
Thanks
70 are enough(35 mace men and 35 crossbow men.)
But only if you choose the correct formation.
you can either post a spy report(100%) or the battle report.
100% is important on big castles because once i sent a 92% accurate spy but when i attacked, that baron had totally different troops and formation.(he left about 10 soldiers of 25.)
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Baldrick (GB1) [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 4:04 p.m.
georgesgems wrote: »Hi there Thanks how do I do that?
Click reply, and then Go Advanced at the bottom right. There's a manage attachments section where you can upload images. You'll need to do screenshots and load them into some kind of graphics package to save them first, I use MS paint.
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 5:51 p.m.
Numbers of troops are almost irrelevant as long as you have a decent amount compared to the enemy.
This game is about TACTICS.
Archers are the worst possible troop to attack. They are defenders. They have a pathetically small attack power of 10. Their description says "All-round defenders".
Swordsmen are the worst possible troop. They are terrible in all aspects - they don't have a single stat above 40 (except when it comes to cost).
You didn't tell us what type of troops the robber baron had. We are guessing completely here - the castle could have contained 67 macemen or 34 veteran spearmen and 33 veteran bowmen. They could have also had either a 20% wall and gate bonus, or a 20% wall and gate bonus and 3 flaming arrows on each flank.
We don't know why you lost, but I can tell you right now that this is what always happens - battles being calculated properly instead of just saying "you have more troops so you win, because that's completely logical and not at all stupid and boring". So yes, it is the "norm" and next time, you can actually plan the attack.
This game is about TACTICS.
Archers are the worst possible troop to attack. They are defenders. They have a pathetically small attack power of 10. Their description says "All-round defenders".
Swordsmen are the worst possible troop. They are terrible in all aspects - they don't have a single stat above 40 (except when it comes to cost).
You didn't tell us what type of troops the robber baron had. We are guessing completely here - the castle could have contained 67 macemen or 34 veteran spearmen and 33 veteran bowmen. They could have also had either a 20% wall and gate bonus, or a 20% wall and gate bonus and 3 flaming arrows on each flank.
We don't know why you lost, but I can tell you right now that this is what always happens - battles being calculated properly instead of just saying "you have more troops so you win, because that's completely logical and not at all stupid and boring". So yes, it is the "norm" and next time, you can actually plan the attack.
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Luke Fierysword [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 5:57 p.m.
BobFighter834 wrote: »Numbers of troops are almost irrelevant as long as you have a decent amount compared to the enemy.
This game is about TACTICS.
Archers are the worst possible troop to attack. They are defenders. They have a pathetically small attack power of 10. Their description says "All-round defenders".
Swordsmen are the worst possible troop. They are terrible in all aspects - they don't have a single stat above 40 (except when it comes to cost).
You didn't tell us what type of troops the robber baron had. We are guessing completely here - the castle could have contained 67 macemen or 34 veteran spearmen and 33 veteran bowmen. They could have also had either a 20% wall and gate bonus, or a 20% wall and gate bonus and 3 flaming arrows on each flank.
We don't know why you lost, but I can tell you right now that this is what always happens - battles being calculated properly instead of just saying "you have more troops so you win, because that's completely logical and not at all stupid and boring". So yes, it is the "norm" and next time, you can actually plan the attack.
Harsh...he's a noob, what did you expect?
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Aug. 31, 2012, 6:10 p.m.
Luke Fierysword wrote: »Harsh...he's a noob, what did you expect?
I was being harsh to swordsmen and archers. I was not trying to convey a nasty tone towards the OP, although if the OP was offended then that's their problem.
We were all noobs once. I realised very quickly not to use spearmen and bowmen in attack. Of course, it would have never happened in the first place if I had joined recently - there are defence and attack tabs. Which do you think that you should use in attack?