Starting Line wrote: »

I didn't say you were a moderator. I'm just saying that I dont believe moderators know anything more about secret combat mechanics than regular players. Therefore it's not a fact, it's just a claim by a moderator. And I know that Jade insists attack stats have absolutely no role in defense battles, but I still have my doubts. Why then, for example, would armed citizens need an attack value at all? They can never actually attack, because they dont have a travel speed value.

I didnt know GGS reaveals all their secrets to you when they make you a moderator...

Parcoria22 wrote: »

This whole thread made me "lol". Attack power, defense power, defense bonus, number bonus-- everything comes down to a simple equation. Figure it out and everything will be so much easier for you.

Starting Line wrote: »

You quoted me correctly but when you put it in different words, you changed it to past tense. That gives the sentence a different meaning. I used present tense which means I was speaking in generalities: I don't think they reveal their secrets to you (someone/anybody), if they make you (them/him/her) a moderator.

Anyway, you're right if a GGS employee said that, he has more credibility than normal players and volunteer moderators. I'll try to look up that post.

Duralatus2 wrote:

There is no random element of luck programmed into this game.....

... only poor programming.

The disparity between 2 identical battle outcomes is entirely due to mechanics in the combat roll table.

The combat roll table is the section of programmed code that calculates battle outcomes.

BraveHeart wrote: »

I think this is just partly correct with one major flaw: you have effectively DOUBLED defense response.

Let me put it this way... I will exclude bonus points for simplicity...

TOTAL Defense versus Melee Attackers (TDvMA): This is the defense response of ALL the current defense units even for a lone (1) maceman as attacker.

TDvMA = (12 * 135) + (8 * 51) = 3650.4

TOTAL Defense versus Ranged Attackers (TDvRA): This is the defense response of ALL the current defense units even for a lone (1) crossbowman as attacker.

TDvRA = (12 * 45) + (8 * 125) = 2772

Therefore for example if the attacker sends both 1x maceman with attack power (AP) of 38 and 1x crossbowman with AP=39 with TOTAL attack power of 77 so what do you use as defense power (DP) value?

77 AP versus DP= what??? 3650? 2772? 3650+2772?

I actually have an idea about this... Defense Response Percentages ... and this is dependent on the attacker melee:ranged ratio ...

Let's say the attacker sends 1x maceman and 3x crossbowmen therefore:

'Melee Attacker Percentage MA% = 25%
Ranged Attacker Percentage RA% = 75%

I think you know where this is going...



I think this makes sense...

Defense will use (MA% x TDvMA) in response to the attacker's MA% melee troops... while...
Defense will use (RA% x TDvRA) in response to the attacker's RA% ranged troops...

You cannot use 100% of BOTH the TDvMA and TDvRA... but only fractions of the two...


Using my theory...

Total AP = (17 x 109) + (12 x 135) = 1853 + 1620 = 3473

TA = 17 + 12 = 29 {Total Attackers}

MA%= 17/29 = 58.62%
RA%= 12/29 = 41.38%

TDvMA = (12x135=1620) + (8x51=408) = 2028
TDvRA = (12x45=540) + (8x125=1000) = 1540

Total Defense Power 	= (MA% x TDvMA) + (RA% x TDvRA)
		    	= (58.62 x 2028) + (41.38 x 1540)
			= 1188.83 + 637.24
			= 1826.07
with Bonus		= 1826.07 x 1.8 = 3286.92

Therefore:  

Attacker = [B]3473[/B]   <<== versus ==>>   Defender = [B][COLOR="red"]3286.92   [/COLOR][/B]

       [B]WIN                                   [/B][B][COLOR="red"]LOSE[/COLOR][/B]

Of course we as players can only make assumptions... and only the game developers know the real math behind... although our discussions in this forum can make such assumptions more sound as we share ideas...



I love GG Empire... not only sharpens swords... but sharpens math skills as well...