Forum: empire-en
Board: [584] Players ask Players
Topic: [77515] what is going on with defeating castles?????
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Tom Kober [None]
:: Sept. 24, 2012, 5:43 p.m.
I must have the wimpiest army ever...... i sent 15 waves of soldiers ... sent a spy... sent 3 more waves,,, just farmers there only 12 ... and it beat all 3 waves... why... i am a 15 level.. attacked a level 6 .... cant seem to win any battles.... why.... i adjusted all my attack ppl dif ,,, n still lose... WHY? can someone help me?
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Sept. 24, 2012, 5:56 p.m.
You can't send 15 waves of soldiers.
Are you sure that you used waves and not seperate attacks? At your level, I think you get a maximum of 2 waves.
Use attack troops in attack. Send in macemen and crossbowmen, and NOT bowmen or spearmen.
Use siege tools to counter defensive bonuses. Send in scaling ladder against natural wall and stone-throwing, and battering ram against natural gate (middle) and castle gate reinforcement.
Plan your attack. If the soldiers are in one flank, attack the other 2 without tools and fight the soldiers in the keep.
That's all I can give you: general advice. We would really need a battle report to see but I can't possibly think of a way you could fail against 12 armed citizens by accident. No offense.
Are you sure that you used waves and not seperate attacks? At your level, I think you get a maximum of 2 waves.
Use attack troops in attack. Send in macemen and crossbowmen, and NOT bowmen or spearmen.
Use siege tools to counter defensive bonuses. Send in scaling ladder against natural wall and stone-throwing, and battering ram against natural gate (middle) and castle gate reinforcement.
Plan your attack. If the soldiers are in one flank, attack the other 2 without tools and fight the soldiers in the keep.
That's all I can give you: general advice. We would really need a battle report to see but I can't possibly think of a way you could fail against 12 armed citizens by accident. No offense.
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agagah [None]
:: Sept. 24, 2012, 7:03 p.m.
Tell us exactly what kind of soldiers you sent and what tools.
(Sometimes players don't make difference between defence and attack soldiers).
and tell us what the level 6 defense was (what kind of units and tools)
Maybe he had support from his alliance members.
If you have a print screen of the battle report it would be nice. (don't forget to mask or erase all names and all information like how many ressources and coins and rubies)
(Sometimes players don't make difference between defence and attack soldiers).
and tell us what the level 6 defense was (what kind of units and tools)
Maybe he had support from his alliance members.
If you have a print screen of the battle report it would be nice. (don't forget to mask or erase all names and all information like how many ressources and coins and rubies)
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Tom Kober [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 1:29 a.m.
The only real attack guys I have are the mace and crossbow man...... mainly sent mace on left/ right sides,,,, and a mace/ crossbow man in the center.. then I mixed these two attack ppl in all dif configurations..like 2 cross in centre or 1 at side.... n I was so mad I deleted the last defeat by 12 farmers only.... as sent by my spy at 100% ... I also cannot defeat a level 6 barbarian castle or beat my outpost wanted.... of course it has 37 farmers.. u know the real tough ones.. I got the wimpy part of the kingdom,,lol ooo the last 3 waves were full... each had 2 ladders and a ram...
and i had all their defenses down to 0 ... after all the first 15 waves ..they were continuous ... he had no time to rebuild... i worked hard to get all the men n supplies ready n it wiped me out
Posts merged due to double posting. Please READ board rules - Bunzy
and i had all their defenses down to 0 ... after all the first 15 waves ..they were continuous ... he had no time to rebuild... i worked hard to get all the men n supplies ready n it wiped me out
Posts merged due to double posting. Please READ board rules - Bunzy
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Tom Kober [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 3:43 a.m.
1 WAVE WAS 1 ATTACK GROUP ... 3 mace - 1 crossbow man .. plus tools..... max was allowed to send.. sent 15 continuous... sent spy ...12 farmers... sent 3 more fully loaded attack groups... and was defeated.... totally wiped out my army by being constantly defeated.... and I did attack a castle... level 6
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Eric768 (US1) [US1]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 3:56 a.m.
With the new update, don't worry about itwhat is going on with defeating castles?????
I must have the wimpiest army ever...... i sent 15 waves of soldiers ... sent a spy... sent 3 more waves,,, just farmers there only 12 ... and it beat all 3 waves... why... i am a 15 level.. attacked a level 6 .... cant seem to win any battles.... why.... i adjusted all my attack ppl dif ,,, n still lose... WHY? can someone help me?
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Tom Kober [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 12:29 p.m.
how do you get waves,,,,,???? ..i guess I sent separate attacks.....
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 5:13 p.m.
Go to the normal attack page.
Look near the bottom left of the screen.
Do you see a box that says "1/2" (or possibly "1/" and then another number)? It has arrows to either side of it.
Click those arrows to change the wave.
With waves, the first wave comes in first and attacks the flanks. Then the second attacks the flanks, and so on. All troops that got through the flanks on ANY wave will then fight in the keep.
Look near the bottom left of the screen.
Do you see a box that says "1/2" (or possibly "1/" and then another number)? It has arrows to either side of it.
Click those arrows to change the wave.
With waves, the first wave comes in first and attacks the flanks. Then the second attacks the flanks, and so on. All troops that got through the flanks on ANY wave will then fight in the keep.
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LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 5:38 p.m.
BobFighter834 wrote: »Go to the normal attack page.
Look near the bottom left of the screen.
Do you see a box that says "1/2" (or possibly "1/" and then another number)? It has arrows to either side of it.
Click those arrows to change the wave.
With waves, the first wave comes in first and attacks the flanks. Then the second attacks the flanks, and so on. All troops that got through the flanks on ANY wave will then fight in the keep.
I must be totally rubbish at strategic games then Bob. Forever and a day, I have been sending at least 3 waves of TKs and heavy crosses and I have won roughly 50/50 of the battles. I must be doing something wrong to be honest. I need a really good strategical plan. One scenario:
I have gone in blind, I have sent 30 Two-handeds on the left, same on the right and 156 through the middle. Now, I guess in this situation, with my siege tools, I would have to use 15 moaty thingies to cross the moat and 15 sieges, and the same for the right flank. Now, through the middle, I have sent the 150 Two-handeds and I have 40 tools; 15 iron rams, 15 siege towers and 10 moat thingies. I have done this for 3 waves. Surely I have enough siege tools to actually defeat someone and come back virtually unscathed.
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 5:47 p.m.
LegendaryKing64 wrote: »I must be totally rubbish at strategic games then Bob. Forever and a day, I have been sending at least 3 waves of TKs and heavy crosses and I have won roughly 50/50 of the battles. I must be doing something wrong to be honest. I need a really good strategical plan. One scenario:
I have gone in blind, I have sent 30 Two-handeds on the left, same on the right and 156 through the middle. Now, I guess in this situation, with my siege tools, I would have to use 15 moaty thingies to cross the moat and 15 sieges, and the same for the right flank. Now, through the middle, I have sent the 150 Two-handeds and I have 40 tools; 15 iron rams, 15 siege towers and 10 moat thingies. I have done this for 3 waves. Surely I have enough siege tools to actually defeat someone and come back virtually unscathed.
Well, there are 4 waves. The 4th could make a big difference.
If you go in blind and fail to provide me with what was actually there, I can't possibly imagine how you lost. It is possible and even likely that the player got over 1000 support troops from his/her alliance members.
Siege tools can only reduce the defensive bonuses to 0. If your troops are hopelessly outnumbered by defensive kingsguard, you're going to lose no matter how many heavy rams you use.
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BlackSwordHawks [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 7:36 p.m.
i defeated a castle with only crossbowmen because the defense was bad only15 farmers lol
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T_PACK [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 7:43 p.m.
1 WAVE WAS 1 ATTACK GROUP ... 3 mace - 1 crossbow man .. plus tools..... max was allowed to send.. sent 15 continuous... sent spy ...12 farmers... sent 3 more fully loaded attack groups... and was defeated.... totally wiped out my army by being constantly defeated.... and I did attack a castle... level 6
Are you saying you sent 15 separate attacks on a castle, consisting of 3 Macemen and 1 Crossbowman each time with tools and lost to the farmers? Cause you wouldn't weaken the farmers, they are the same strength each time depending on how many dwellings/townhouses the defender has.
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BlackSwordHawks [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 7:57 p.m.
defense. Spearman and halberdier are great against melee. bowmen and longbowmen are for ranged. and knights and archers are for both. attack mace and two-handed sword are for ranged defenders while crossbowmen and heavy crossbowmen are for melee defenders. if a castle has defenders send attackers and if it has attackers send defenders. and dont forget siege tools they reduce a defenders defense use as much is protecting the castle so nothing holds u back. better
you can no longer attack anyone with a rank bellow 10 if you are 5 levels higher
you can no longer attack anyone with a rank bellow 10 if you are 5 levels higher
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Unknown
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 8:07 p.m.
Two identical threads merged started by same user.
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T_PACK [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 8:23 p.m.
BlackSwordHawks wrote: »if a castle has defenders send attackers and if it has attackers send defenders.
Nooo, where have you gotten your information from??
You should never, ever choose to attack with defenders over attackers, they will always do worse. Here's a a key and a short list of how to defeat the following basic units defending:
Spearmen=Sp
Bowmen=B
Macemen=M,
Crossbowmen=C
Swordsmen=S
Archers=A
Halberdiers=H
Longbowmen=LB
Two-handed Swordsmen=2HS
Heavy Crossbowmen=HB
1. Sp: use C, HC
2. B: use M, S, 2HS
3. M: use M, S, 2HS
4. C: use C, HC
5. S: use C, HC
6. A: use M, S, *2HS
7. H: use C, *HC
8. LB: use M, S, *2HS
9: 2HS: use C, HC
10. HC: use M, S, 2HS
(* means preferred troop)
- T_PACK
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BlackSwordHawks [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 3:45 a.m.
lol i always use defenders for any attackers and i only lose little, but 95% of the time i lose none.i do use attack if there's only defenders but defenders if its attack it reduces melee good at killing ranged and ranged good at killing melee war8) [1394428]
xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 3:47 a.m.
BlackSwordHawks wrote: »lol i always use defenders for any attackers and i lose little but 95% of the time none
Because you attack a level 10 or less RBC, do that with a player and you will fail 95% or more of the time.
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BlackSwordHawks [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 4:12 a.m.
if theres more slots i put the right amount of men i need other wise ill put more then ever. i got a good defense and attack for my level so i need lots of food. must not make one wrong step like what happened to my last castle