Forum: empire-en
Board: [584] Players ask Players
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Conqueror9 [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 7:43 a.m.
There are 2 tools
1 is ladder and 1 is battling ram in atatcking fronter
left/right flank only allow 1 tools, there is no gate there, so i believe we only use ladder
But in fronter
we can only use 1 tools..either lasser or battling ram
but in fronter, there is gate and stone-throw
I am wondering what sort of tools i should used in fronter
if i send Macemen, should i just sending battling ram to let Macemen go to courtyard ?? or use ladder to climb up to fihgt with crossbowmen ??
1 is ladder and 1 is battling ram in atatcking fronter
left/right flank only allow 1 tools, there is no gate there, so i believe we only use ladder
But in fronter
we can only use 1 tools..either lasser or battling ram
but in fronter, there is gate and stone-throw
I am wondering what sort of tools i should used in fronter
if i send Macemen, should i just sending battling ram to let Macemen go to courtyard ?? or use ladder to climb up to fihgt with crossbowmen ??
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 7:45 a.m.
Well, if you ask me, it is better to counter the bonus with the higher amount, I mean if the castle have
45% of wall bonus and 20% of gate bonus, I think it will be more wise to use 5 ladders to counter the 45%, and leave defenders with 20% of bonus, rather than countering 20% and leaving 45%
And remember, even if you use ladders that doesn't mean your soldiers won't fight in the castle because they can't reach it
45% of wall bonus and 20% of gate bonus, I think it will be more wise to use 5 ladders to counter the 45%, and leave defenders with 20% of bonus, rather than countering 20% and leaving 45%
And remember, even if you use ladders that doesn't mean your soldiers won't fight in the castle because they can't reach it
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Conqueror9 [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 8:37 a.m.
understand
I do varies try with different pattern of armies
my food issue has been resolved becos i have heavy loss (10s, 20s, 30s and up 50s in different battles)
now i am short of soldier to hit robber baron castle....
I do varies try with different pattern of armies
my food issue has been resolved becos i have heavy loss (10s, 20s, 30s and up 50s in different battles)
now i am short of soldier to hit robber baron castle....
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J.I. Joe2 [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 7:07 p.m.
Conqueror9 wrote: »There are 2 tools
1 is ladder and 1 is battling ram in atatcking fronter
left/right flank only allow 1 tools, there is no gate there, so i believe we only use ladder
But in fronter
we can only use 1 tools..either lasser or battling ram
but in fronter, there is gate and stone-throw
I am wondering what sort of tools i should used in fronter
if i send Macemen, should i just sending battling ram to let Macemen go to courtyard ?? or use ladder to climb up to fihgt with crossbowmen ??
To add to what the others have said:
On the right and left flanks, at your level, your opponent can pretty much only use castle wall tools, such as Stone-Throwing (+25% defense), or it's ruby version Tar Pitch Kettles (+40% defense).
Say he has a normal castle wall defense of 40%, you'll want to assume that he will be using two castle wall slot tools as well for protection, hense two Tar Pitch Kettles, resulting in a total castle wall bonus = 120%.
To completely negative his castle wall defensive bonus, you would need 12 Ladders (-10% to castle wall defense bonus each) or 8 Siege Towers (-15% defense to castle wall bonus each).
Of course, you would need that on both the left and right flanks, and on every attack wave as well.
If you plan to attack your opponent in the middle and he has castle gate level 3, you would assume he has 60% bonus to his castle gate from the start, and also have two Castle Gate Reinforcements (+35% defense) or two Insulating Mats (+60% defense). Thus his castle gate bonus can as high as 180% defense right there.
You would need 18 Battering Rams (-10% each to castle gate protection) or 12 Iron Rams (-15% each to castle gate protection). You would have to repeat that to all your attack waves.
Please note however, there are more protection bonus that I did not list. Moat and moat tools, +% defense to ranged defenders, and so on, as well as the all powerfull Armorer's ruby tools.
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Duterte (INT1) [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 7:57 a.m.
Is there really a point to producing the wood ram? They cost double than ladders but the same attack percentage at-10%.
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 7:58 a.m.
BraveHeart wrote: »Is there really a point to producing the wood ram? They cost double than ladders but the same attack percentage at-10%.
Yes, there is ladders only counter wall bonus, on a castle without a moay in the middle you can find the gate bonus, which can only be countered by rams
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Duterte (INT1) [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 8:30 a.m.
But for low levels there is normally only 1 slot hence no choice but to pick 1 siege tool. So if castle has wood gate (+35%) and stone (+25%) then I normally counter that with 10 ladders... Aren't gate and middle wall bonuses additive? After all we do not know which troops are at the front wall or gate. As long as they're in the middle there is no distinction for middle defenders. The only distinction is if there are special bonus for ranged defenders like flaming arrows, bulwark, etc.
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 8:31 a.m.
BraveHeart wrote: »But for low levels there is normally only 1 slot hence no choice but to pick 1 siege tool. So if castle has wood gate (+35%) and stone (+25%) then I normally counter that with 10 ladders... Aren't gate and middle wall bonuses additive? After all we do not know which troops are at the front wall or gate. As long as they're in the middle there is no distinction for middle defenders. The only distinction is if there are special bonus for ranged defenders like flaming arrows, bulwark, etc.
No, the wall and gate bonus are separate bonus, is like a moat bonus for example, you cannot counter a moat with rams, you cannot counter the gate with ladders, etc
And the only troops who can get benefited from the gate bonus are the "middle" defenders, each section have its own tools therefore its own bonus, you can get
20% of bonus for the left, and 40% for the right, and that doesn't mean your soldiers will get a +60% in total, that means the soldiers fighting in those sections will get that bonus
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ashjokar [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 10:52 a.m.
... shouldn't middle bonus be added?
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 10:55 a.m.
... shouldn't middle bonus be added?
Yes, the total wall, bonus and moat (ranged bonus also count) will be added for that specific section, if in the middle you get 20% of wall bonus 30% of gate bonus and 10% of moat bonus the total for the middle will be 70% but ONLY the soldiers in the middle will be benefited from that bonus
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ashjokar [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 10:59 a.m.
ok... what is moat? is that the circle thing in the wall?
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 28, 2012, 11:11 a.m.
ok... what is moat? is that the circle thing in the wall?
yes it is but I was just using it as an example
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dragon21 (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 23, 2012, 9:36 p.m.
Also, you can send 2 waves of troops. The first wave, up to about level 30, you can just put 1 soldier (maceman, no tools) on the flanks, and that takes out all the wall defenses. Then just send flank attacks + the number of ladders that matches the strength of the bare wall... 2, 4, 6, etc... You will win all RBCs quite easily with just 2 flanks of soldiers, and use less troops, and still gather all the loot. You can send a third wave with a few maces to clean up any remaining loot, but the loot is pretty much fixed, so you top out at a certain number depending on the level.
Note, in the ice glaciers they start to stagger the tools on 2 waves, so sometimes you have to send two waves of "mace martyrs".
Raj.
Note, in the ice glaciers they start to stagger the tools on 2 waves, so sometimes you have to send two waves of "mace martyrs".
Raj.