Forum: empire-en

Board: [584] Players ask Players

Topic: [77624] Defense formation 33-34-33

[-77624] UltimateZekrom [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 5:18 a.m.

Ok, so im not exactly a noob but I just want to know if my defense formation 33-34-33 is a good one. I only get attacked by robber barons so other players are not a problem.

[1394875] Andrea50 [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 5:41 a.m.

Nope it is the worst.

[1394879] UltimateZekrom [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 5:45 a.m.

Andrea50 wrote: »

Nope it is the worst.

why is it so bad. what should i have then

[1394881] Zaltonat (AU1) [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 5:48 a.m.

I have mine set to 33-34-33. It works perfectly for me but for some other people who get attacked a lot use diferent formations.

[1394887] camo2795 (AU1) [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 5:58 a.m.

i agree what is the perfect way to have it

[1394891] B.Stinson [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 6:08 a.m.

I find that 50/0/50 formation and in some cases 0/60/40 works well. If you are severely outnumbered you could always go 100/0/0 to deny any bonuses towards the attacker.

[1394893] Duterte (INT1) [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 6:12 a.m.

camo2795 wrote: »

i agree what is the perfect way to have it

Is there really such a thing as perfect defense? The best defense is when you're online and you can respond to the attack.

If an attacker is coming then I will adjust my wall defenses accordingly to be able to overpower his incoming troops. If he decides to overpower a particular flank then you might want to adjust defenses to zero the wall flanks where there will be no attackers so that the troop power will be shifted to where it is needed.

Also if the attacker is sure to overpower my defenses then guess what the best defense is???

RUN... ... and make sure the attacker gets MINIMUM BENEFIT (loot & honor-wise) ... then just fix your buildings later... and then fight another day when you've built up enough troops....

There is still honor in knowing which battles to fight for...

[1394894] Trules [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 6:13 a.m.

It's not a good formation unless you know there is an attack incoming that's perfectly spread evenly, and even then you'd be better off going 50-0-50.

You guys need to remember that more than 1/3 of the damage comes up the middle so it would be very inefficient to have only 34% of your defenders stationed there. You would be better off going 25-50-25 since more than half the damage can potentially come up the middle.

For example if there is an attack and the attackers formation is:
52-156-52
then having only 34% of your defenders in the middle will only lead to an avoidable loss troops.

At the lower levels I'd recommend 25-50-25 and then once you've got a lot of defenders (+tools) and people start using more than one wave, then go 50-0-50.

[1395020] PurplePancakes [None] :: Sept. 27, 2012, 2:28 p.m.

just change it when ever you get attacked, look at the thing it tells you then depending on amounts, kinda estimate then place your men in different formations,

[1395172] Zaltonat (AU1) [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 12:43 a.m.

Even though i set mine to 33-34-33 dont take it as the best. I usally get hammered by robber barons and the attack my flanks, so as the others said, it depends on the attack. eg if there is a huge attack coming on both your flanks and you have 25-50-25 you could lose. If you see what the attack looks like before it come you change it to 50-0-50 if it is only attacking your flanks. If its attacking only the front you could change it to 0-100-0 for super protection. And another thing is that I tend to take of some of the tools when robber barons attack. It usally gets waste and I always survive anyway.

[1395174] FastLuke4 [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 12:47 a.m.

worst one ever
50-0-50 rocks

[1395176] xJadetsssx [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 12:50 a.m.

I love how everyone argue about this, when the defense settings you use depends of the battle, if someone send weak soldiers in the middle with no tools, and soldiers with armorer tools in both flanks, I think it'll be more wise to try to defend the middle section and one flank for example

[1395206] Duterte (INT1) [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 5:40 a.m.

Hi Jade (or Jadet?),

Is there a thread in the forum discussing the 30% courtyard thing in depth? I'm still a bit fuzzy about it. If there is already a thread on it can you direct me? Otherwise can you elaborate using your "veteran knowledge"

If only one section of the wall is occupied, the attacker will receive a reduction in combat strength for battles in the courtyard. For two occupied sections neither attacker nor defender will have an advantage, and a combat bonus will be awarded for three occupied sections.

Are the 3 sections talked about here actually pertain to the castle flanks (left/front/right)?

[1395208] xJadetsssx [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 5:47 a.m.

BraveHeart wrote: »

Hi Jade (or Jadet?),

Is there a thread in the forum discussing the 30% courtyard thing in depth? I'm still a bit fuzzy about it. If there is already a thread on it can you direct me? Otherwise can you elaborate using your "veteran knowledge"



Are the 3 sections talked about here actually pertain to the castle flanks (left/front/right)?

Yes, I don't remember what the thread was, I guess I'll look for it, but yes, "sections of the wall" means...

A) The left flank
The middle section
C) The right flank

[1395225] Corrupted_Dawn [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 7:02 a.m.

hey i was wondering what is a good defense for a castle? is the default good? 25-50-25? or is there a better defense? i am level 19. so whats a good defense for a me? also what is a good defense for higher levels like 40?

Thread merged with one on existing topic - Bunzy

[1395233] LegendaryKing64 [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 7:29 a.m.

Corrupted_Dawn wrote: »

hey i was wondering what is a good defense for a castle? is the default good? 25-50-25? or is there a better defense? i am level 19. so whats a good defense for a me? also what is a good defense for higher levels like 40?

I take it this is the first time you have ever visited a forum in your whole life then? With respect, a moderators job or indeed an admins job is to help people amongst other things. It is indeed a thankless job which is done voluntarily by many people. Their job is to oversee the running of the forum and to see it run smoothly through the course of the day. The last thing they want to be doing is to keep on pasting links or responding to the same questions every single day, or indeed the worst case scenario; to merge threads all the time.

As Jade stated, "Not this again." This implies that this question has been answered many times before. As such, you should find a search function on this forum and it is not for the VIPS, it is for all concerned. You have to try and think for yourself, it makes life so much easier. As for a response to your question, it is totally up to the individual, I have my ways, you have yours. If there was a perfect defence setup then, the game would be boring and if everyone set their defences up the same or attacks the same then again, it would be boring so, variety is definitely the spice of life.

xJadetsssx wrote: »

Not this again, I have seen people answering this question Countless times already, did even you made a search? ^...^

A link to one thread for example
http://en.board.goodgamestudios.com/empire/showthread.php?34289-Defense-formation-33-34-33

I'll link this picture to show your frustration:

[1395267] famous nadin [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 9:31 a.m.

B.Stinson wrote: »

I find that 50/0/50 formation and in some cases 0/60/40 works well. If you are severely outnumbered you could always go 100/0/0 to deny any bonuses towards the attacker.

right i also have the same its good the attackers get to the keep and we get bonuses while the attacker gets no supports

[1395315] T_PACK [None] :: Sept. 28, 2012, 12:14 p.m.

BraveHeart wrote: »

Hi Jade (or Jadet?),

Is there a thread in the forum discussing the 30% courtyard thing in depth? I'm still a bit fuzzy about it. If there is already a thread on it can you direct me? Otherwise can you elaborate using your "veteran knowledge"



Are the 3 sections talked about here actually pertain to the castle flanks (left/front/right)?

Hello,
I talked about this pretty in-depth in this thread http://en.board.goodgamestudios.com/empire/showthread.php?34058-What-is-best-beginner-level-defense-strategy/page3 you can look through that and see if that helps you.

- T_PACK

[1396061] Yolo32 [None] :: Sept. 30, 2012, 9:25 a.m.

I put mines 50% on EACH FLANK. NO solider in the front. reason being in this is because IF the enemy soliders get past the flank they will have the 30% bonus in attack, if your flanks survive, the remaining surviving troops fight along with the defenders that were stationed in the keep. an in additional to that your defense as a 30% increase because you defended the flanks, it saves you tools, because even if the enemy uses 100 tools in the frontal area an you put no troops or tools there it doesnt do anything. so to save yourself alot of troops for the battle of the keep i would do it that way. never lost a battle since doing it that way. im sure to have haters commment on this all tell me otherwise but everyone thinks different an not everything works for everyone so yeh. give it a try an be the judge yourself.

[1480154] WarriorDiamon87 [None] :: Feb. 4, 2013, 5:27 p.m.

If you go 50-0-50, will your defensive tools still work in the front (e.g. oil, gate padding) even if you don't have any defenders stationed there? Or will the enemy just march through the gate without a single loss?