Forum: empire-en
Board: [584] Players ask Players
Topic: [78131] confused which attacking soldier defeat which defensers
[-78131]
llll5 [None]
:: Oct. 8, 2012, 10:32 p.m.
Ok , so I have all the parts of the Swine king map. However, I'm a bit confused as to how to proceed in attacking the castles
As you can see the first castle has this defense
Left flank
20 crossbowmen 45% wall protection
Front
20% gate 20% wall no troops
right Flank
20 maceman 45% wall protection
Courtyard
5 crossbowmen 5 maceman
I have the traveling knight, traveling crossbowmen, 15 regular crossbowmen and 10 maceman How should I attack?
My knights say they are good attacking ranged defenders. However, when I look at their crossbows on the left flank it has 20 strength in defense vs melee attackers and just 7 vs ranged attackers
So it seems to me it would make better sense to send my crossbowmen to fight them?
The reverse is true for the maceman. Good defense vs ranged attackers, low vs melee.
sooo can someone explain what the hell this all means?
I tried looking through the Tips and tricks subforum without much luck
As you can see the first castle has this defense
Left flank
20 crossbowmen 45% wall protection
Front
20% gate 20% wall no troops
right Flank
20 maceman 45% wall protection
Courtyard
5 crossbowmen 5 maceman
I have the traveling knight, traveling crossbowmen, 15 regular crossbowmen and 10 maceman How should I attack?
My knights say they are good attacking ranged defenders. However, when I look at their crossbows on the left flank it has 20 strength in defense vs melee attackers and just 7 vs ranged attackers
So it seems to me it would make better sense to send my crossbowmen to fight them?
The reverse is true for the maceman. Good defense vs ranged attackers, low vs melee.
sooo can someone explain what the hell this all means?
I tried looking through the Tips and tricks subforum without much luck
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Oct. 8, 2012, 10:47 p.m.
Ok , so I have all the parts of the Swine king map. However, I'm a bit confused as to how to proceed in attacking the castles
As you can see the first castle has this defense
Left flank
20 crossbowmen 45% wall protection
Front
20% gate 20% wall no troops
right Flank
20 maceman 45% wall protection
Courtyard
5 crossbowmen 5 maceman
I have the traveling knight, traveling crossbowmen, 15 regular crossbowmen and 10 maceman How should I attack?
My knights say they are good attacking ranged defenders. However, when I look at their crossbows on the left flank it has 20 strength in defense vs melee attackers and just 7 vs ranged attackers
So it seems to me it would make better sense to send my crossbowmen to fight them?
The reverse is true for the maceman. Good defense vs ranged attackers, low vs melee.
sooo can someone explain what the hell this all means?
I tried looking through the Tips and tricks subforum without much luck
Well actually the Travelling knights are better against ranged defenders and the Travelling Crossbows are better against melee defenders, but, there are some exceptions, for example those soldiers (Macemans and crossbowmans) aren't defenders, they are attackers, so their stats are not like the defenders stats soldiers, and yes you are right, in this case it is better to attack a defender crossbow with travelling Crossbowmen and defender macemans with Travelling Knights
[1399393]
Conqueror9 [None]
:: Oct. 8, 2012, 11:27 p.m.
It appears
that player do not have
basic defend soldier (like spearman, bowmen, archer...) in castle
so those attacker soldier has come up to fill wall ....
is that a good defend war tactic ???
that player do not have
basic defend soldier (like spearman, bowmen, archer...) in castle
so those attacker soldier has come up to fill wall ....
is that a good defend war tactic ???
[1399399]
llll5 [None]
:: Oct. 9, 2012, 12:05 a.m.
xJadetsssx wrote: »Well actually the Travelling knights are better against ranged defenders and the Travelling Crossbows are better against melee defenders, but, there are some exceptions, for example those soldiers (Macemans and crossbowmans) aren't defenders, they are attackers, so their stats are not like the defenders stats soldiers, and yes you are right, in this case it is better to attack a defender crossbow with travelling Crossbowmen and defender macemans with Travelling Knights
Thanks, that makes sense. Launched my attack. lets see what happens
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Oct. 9, 2012, 12:26 a.m.
[1400469]
BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Oct. 10, 2012, 6:54 p.m.
Conqueror9 wrote: »is that a good defend war tactic ???
No, but this is not a player's castle. It is an NPC castle designed to be fairly easy because it is supposed to be attacked by low levels and so you can gain from the attack.
[1434939]
KonZikawa [None]
:: Dec. 3, 2012, 6:20 p.m.
this thread is similiar to my need of help so ill post here instead of making a new thread
i just got to level 12 atm and i cleared the first castle on the map... but i lost heavily on the 2nd one which has
Left and Right Flank - 5 Pikemen - 4 Crossbows each
45% Wall
Front - 13 Pikemen and 13 Crossbows
55% Gate
45% Wall
the courtyard has 7 Pikemen and 9 Crossbows
so total of 30 each
what i wanna know is how / what units i should use to attack - pikemen and crossbows are strong vs melee units so should i spam crossbowmen ?
2nd question - are the coming castles going to be possible to beat with the units i can make from a level 2 barracks (Pikemen - Archers - Macemen - Crossbows)
or is it going to be better if i do the normal RBC while i level up?
Also i wonder - if an enemy has Macemen defending - would it be best to use Pikemen to attack -
and if the enemy has Crossbows defending would it be best to use Archers or Macemen (since crossbows are good vs macemen)
im new so dont know how the fighting mechanic works
Any help would be great - thx beforehand
i just got to level 12 atm and i cleared the first castle on the map... but i lost heavily on the 2nd one which has
Left and Right Flank - 5 Pikemen - 4 Crossbows each
45% Wall
Front - 13 Pikemen and 13 Crossbows
55% Gate
45% Wall
the courtyard has 7 Pikemen and 9 Crossbows
so total of 30 each
what i wanna know is how / what units i should use to attack - pikemen and crossbows are strong vs melee units so should i spam crossbowmen ?
2nd question - are the coming castles going to be possible to beat with the units i can make from a level 2 barracks (Pikemen - Archers - Macemen - Crossbows)
or is it going to be better if i do the normal RBC while i level up?
Also i wonder - if an enemy has Macemen defending - would it be best to use Pikemen to attack -
and if the enemy has Crossbows defending would it be best to use Archers or Macemen (since crossbows are good vs macemen)
im new so dont know how the fighting mechanic works
Any help would be great - thx beforehand
[1435156]
HowardS [None]
:: Dec. 4, 2012, 2 a.m.
You would want to send all ranged units(not bowman or Archers) on both flanks and the center. Dont send maceman(they will get slaughtered).
Against crossbowman you want to send crossbowman or other ranged units but NOT archers.
Against melee you want to send maceman and other melee units.
Against crossbowman you want to send crossbowman or other ranged units but NOT archers.
Against melee you want to send maceman and other melee units.
[1435164]
KonZikawa [None]
:: Dec. 4, 2012, 2:25 a.m.
ye i kind of got myself settled or what you'd say, found this thread that explained lots
http://en.board.goodgamestudios.com/empire/showthread.php?19985-Robber-Baron-Guide
the whole thing of having ''attack'' units defending is confusing... its the opposite of ''defence'' soldiers it seems
* attack with crossbows vs crossbows and pikemen (right?)
* attack with macemen vs macemen and archers
the units tooltip put me off and made me lose so big ...... (macemen says ''Excellenct vs ranged defenders'')-(opposite for Crossbows)
guess Crossbows were melee weapons back then lol - nonetheless that tooltip is misleading
but ye i sent full force of crossbowmen with some ladders and lost only about 15 / 64 i think.
then pretty much just used the remainder of the force on the farmers in the next castle
going to attack the last one tomorrow when ive gotten my macemen up in numbers again... (defended by farmers and archers)
on the + side i have now learnt how the battle mechanic for the units work (tools and those % is still a mysterie lol)
http://en.board.goodgamestudios.com/empire/showthread.php?19985-Robber-Baron-Guide
the whole thing of having ''attack'' units defending is confusing... its the opposite of ''defence'' soldiers it seems
* attack with crossbows vs crossbows and pikemen (right?)
* attack with macemen vs macemen and archers
the units tooltip put me off and made me lose so big ...... (macemen says ''Excellenct vs ranged defenders'')-(opposite for Crossbows)
guess Crossbows were melee weapons back then lol - nonetheless that tooltip is misleading
but ye i sent full force of crossbowmen with some ladders and lost only about 15 / 64 i think.
then pretty much just used the remainder of the force on the farmers in the next castle
going to attack the last one tomorrow when ive gotten my macemen up in numbers again... (defended by farmers and archers)
on the + side i have now learnt how the battle mechanic for the units work (tools and those % is still a mysterie lol)