Forum: empire-en
Board: [585] Technical Assistance
Topic: [77000] Impossible to win capital
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Baldrick (GB1) [None]
:: Sept. 13, 2012, 9:01 p.m.
Yeah, it seems these capitals may actually be impossible to obtain, unless attacked by many alliances, but then who get's the capital after that?
You would think that equally sized alliances should be able to have a decent battle over these. I guess all the attacks would need to be veterans and full armour tools for it to be worthwhile. One of those attacks was only 720, which seems a bit weak to me.
You would think that equally sized alliances should be able to have a decent battle over these. I guess all the attacks would need to be veterans and full armour tools for it to be worthwhile. One of those attacks was only 720, which seems a bit weak to me.
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ButtPlayer3 [None]
:: Sept. 13, 2012, 11:08 p.m.
Having looked through approx 100 defence reports in detail I'd like to say a few points.
In the summary report of the attack the troop numbers went up after each attack for some reason, BUT the detail of the report showed the correct number of troops that were faced. Now obviously only the defenders see this report and the summary is what the defeated attacker see's.So while the the summary report could say there were 5 million defenders the detail of the report will show 60,000.
By my estimate the attackers sent approx 79000 troops and they were well timed, but some had absolutely no tools and others had only resource tools. Even with the right tools though the battle is made up of approx 70 seperate battles e.g. Attacker sends 1040 troops but is facing 60k defenders so defenders only lose say 300 troops, the medico revives 25% losses so you get 75 troops back. So while the attacker lost 1040 troops the defender only lost 225 troops I'm afraid.
Also remember the bulk of the defenders were the new capitol troops who are stronger.
So cannt say for certain but the bug would appear to be in the reports sent to the lossers rather than the detailed report available to the victors or the working out of the actual battles.
Maybe GG will design a method of lumping together a mass attack so all the troops will fight at once but then the capitols would change hands regularly.
On a lighter note, more capitols will be added as the server expands and this game while frustrating at times (especially ruby bonus not working), it is also challenging and fun where I've made loads of friends, but most of all it is a game.
In the summary report of the attack the troop numbers went up after each attack for some reason, BUT the detail of the report showed the correct number of troops that were faced. Now obviously only the defenders see this report and the summary is what the defeated attacker see's.So while the the summary report could say there were 5 million defenders the detail of the report will show 60,000.
By my estimate the attackers sent approx 79000 troops and they were well timed, but some had absolutely no tools and others had only resource tools. Even with the right tools though the battle is made up of approx 70 seperate battles e.g. Attacker sends 1040 troops but is facing 60k defenders so defenders only lose say 300 troops, the medico revives 25% losses so you get 75 troops back. So while the attacker lost 1040 troops the defender only lost 225 troops I'm afraid.
Also remember the bulk of the defenders were the new capitol troops who are stronger.
So cannt say for certain but the bug would appear to be in the reports sent to the lossers rather than the detailed report available to the victors or the working out of the actual battles.
Maybe GG will design a method of lumping together a mass attack so all the troops will fight at once but then the capitols would change hands regularly.
On a lighter note, more capitols will be added as the server expands and this game while frustrating at times (especially ruby bonus not working), it is also challenging and fun where I've made loads of friends, but most of all it is a game.
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FoggyDog [None]
:: Sept. 14, 2012, 5:56 a.m.
It is my opinion GGS should feel more than obligated to send every member of the TR alliance a box of genuine GGS tissues for their troubles. Its the least you can do.
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ButtPlayer3 [None]
:: Sept. 14, 2012, 7:18 a.m.
You need to think in the scale of each attack.
1040 attackers versus 60,000 defenders would be the same as attacking a player with 1000 defenders with 17 attackers. In that case if you killed anyone you'd be happy.
Now try that attack of 17 in 80 seperate attacks, even though more attackers are used (1360) and ignoring tools on both sides, who would you expect to win?
I understand this must be frustrating, but thats what the capitols where invented for, to add a new dimension to the game.
Good gaming
1040 attackers versus 60,000 defenders would be the same as attacking a player with 1000 defenders with 17 attackers. In that case if you killed anyone you'd be happy.
Now try that attack of 17 in 80 seperate attacks, even though more attackers are used (1360) and ignoring tools on both sides, who would you expect to win?
I understand this must be frustrating, but thats what the capitols where invented for, to add a new dimension to the game.
Good gaming
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Afiniasmenos [None]
:: Sept. 14, 2012, 7:19 p.m.
@ButtPlayer3, if you were at the other side of this issue. I do not think you would call this GOOD GAMING.
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Sinjin [None]
:: Sept. 14, 2012, 8:02 p.m.
It is my opinion GGS should feel more than obligated to send every member of the TR alliance a box of genuine GGS tissues for their troubles. Its the least you can do.
Many BB players are great guys, and I sent a congrats to a key player on BB after the attack in spite of knowing the math was a mistake (and GG has admitted this) but I guess every team has its "foggydogs" don't they-class act! Again, try to be on the other side Foggy. Its a game, but it is also money to many of us and we don't play to throw out our coins. We spend the rubies to win. Reality is, if it was a fair battle, we still don't know who would have won now do we? I am personally feeling a little gun shy after that mess.
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[Deleted User] [None]
:: Sept. 22, 2012, 4:29 p.m.
Just as well in the second screen there were almost 1 billion defenders!
ONLY!!??
Hey Guys,
this seems to be an graphical issue that we have forwarded. It seems like they only defended with 53k soldiers.
It has been forwarded and we are going to check it. Thank you for this thread
Regards
Hannes
ONLY!!??
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MartinUser1 [None]
:: Sept. 23, 2012, 3:58 p.m.
wow.that is lousy