Forum: empire-en
Board: [586] Off Topic
Topic: [352857] Who is Fair?
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JetLag (US1) [US1]
:: June 4, 2018, 12:10 p.m.
It is small wonder there are people who are stopped playing , Good Game says it strives for being fair. Now i ask you what is fair for a level 70 legendary 800 to attack a level 70 legendary 7, Not all 70s are the same. How about the big alliances with 60 + member all attacking little 3 to 10 member alliance attacking their out posts and declaring on the small alliances that are mostly builders and low in members. Then there are the irksome CONSTANT ADDS that pop up in the middle of trying to do other things like setting up for an attack for sales. The basic of a good play time is now vexing due to these adds that come in twos and threes. These matters need to be dealt with and someone needs to take action with them to gain the respect of the people who play this game. I know from my alliance and some other friends that there players very upset with the way things are. I see a trend that need attention however there is nothing i can do about it.
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Petran (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 11, 2018, 9:47 p.m.
I agree completely. After being repeatedly hit by the very brave 70/700+ clubs, I have quit this lopsided and extremely partisan game. I will never recommend this atrocity to anyone at any time. Greed rules this company and they are not interested in fair play; to them, fair play is you spending money (in a rage after being burnt to the ground 20 times) to hit bullies back. But you cant do that either because they will then destroy your entire alliance with mass-attacks you cannot defend against, GOODBYE GGE!!!
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BM Fujiwara [None]
:: Oct. 12, 2018, 1:38 p.m.
I assume you've not played many other games of the genre. Try Travian, or Grepolis, or a whole bunch of similar games where you spend just as many months building an account to find all your assets literally taken from you ... game over, start again.
All you have when a LL 800 hits a LL 7 is a bunch of fires to put out and a bunch of troops to replace. If you're online, move your troops out if you can't defend, and replace them otherwise. It's a war game, fair isn't some left wing ideal where everyone is equal to everyone else. Some players are stronger than others, and they will demonstrate that difference for any reason that suits them (from receiving an insulting message or a sabotage to simply wanting your food to feed their troops or just out of sheer boredom).
Unless the same player is literally just burning everything every few days and giving you no chance to recover, I don't see any legitimate complaint here. People generally hit targets that they can beat, and the amount of times I hear a middle strength alliance complaining bully just to declare and wreck a smaller alliance that had the audacity to hit them a couple of times later that month is a bit cringing.
Get stronger over time, be polite even when your castle just got trashed, and you won't get picked out for special attention, and things work out fine (speaking as someone who has slowly travelled up from the "count how many fires I have to put out each day" pack to the "no-one hits me any more" pack).
All you have when a LL 800 hits a LL 7 is a bunch of fires to put out and a bunch of troops to replace. If you're online, move your troops out if you can't defend, and replace them otherwise. It's a war game, fair isn't some left wing ideal where everyone is equal to everyone else. Some players are stronger than others, and they will demonstrate that difference for any reason that suits them (from receiving an insulting message or a sabotage to simply wanting your food to feed their troops or just out of sheer boredom).
Unless the same player is literally just burning everything every few days and giving you no chance to recover, I don't see any legitimate complaint here. People generally hit targets that they can beat, and the amount of times I hear a middle strength alliance complaining bully just to declare and wreck a smaller alliance that had the audacity to hit them a couple of times later that month is a bit cringing.
Get stronger over time, be polite even when your castle just got trashed, and you won't get picked out for special attention, and things work out fine (speaking as someone who has slowly travelled up from the "count how many fires I have to put out each day" pack to the "no-one hits me any more" pack).
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Lady LizzyLoo (US1) [US1]
:: March 11, 2019, 7:40 a.m.
ALL is fair in love and WAR !
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Taggart (US1) [US1]
:: March 11, 2019, 7:41 p.m.
I don't wanna offend you but would you really just say "it's a war game" if you were in a potato alliance with 150k might and get hit daily by 6-wave ruby whales?The Torrent (GB1) said:Where the Romans fair when they salted the soil of Carthage so that nothing would ever grow again?
Its a war game.
(I guess what I'm saying here is try to look at things from his viewpoint)
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PHIXONIC GAMER (IN1) [IN1]
:: March 13, 2019, 6:10 a.m.
If only getting hit by ruby whales is your main problem, join IN1. Here we have this DNA that if someone hits you once, you can hit them twice so no one attacks anyone (except in war, but even then youyou can avoid getting hit by moving to a neutral alliance).
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JetLag (US1) [US1]
:: April 27, 2020, 9:13 p.m.
Well am going to use up my rubies and go vacation . Will see if it worth the time to come bak and play. going to see if there is any change in the way Players are treated. Don't expect anything from Good Game tho. This is a pay to play . Free game. Good game won't listen until players like me get tired of things like , Having to pay to group sell off Useless Equipment and Gems. This should have been free . After all they made the new stuff and now you have to pay to sell it in a group. Maybe if the Player all Do the survey at it worst They will do something. I have doubts on that too. See you in a moth or two. Maybe.
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Venom (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2020, 7:53 a.m.
My US account is in a very small alliance, 12mil MP, and we get double taps on low level 70s by 9 waves, even on new castles in the kingdoms, that don't have moats or even level 5 walls.
I'm a big fan of this: hitting players your own size, anyone not doing that usually gets it when war comes along, mind you: I am a big fan of PvP.
I'm a big fan of this: hitting players your own size, anyone not doing that usually gets it when war comes along, mind you: I am a big fan of PvP.
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Wasso (INT3) [INT3]
:: April 28, 2020, 8:14 p.m.
Welcome back down to the mid-range Player level. Don't worry, it gets better as you progress...…...Venom (AU1) said:My US account is in a very small alliance, 12mil MP, and we get double taps on low level 70s by 9 waves, even on new castles in the kingdoms, that don't have moats or even level 5 walls.
I'm a big fan of this: hitting players your own size, anyone not doing that usually gets it when war comes along, mind you: I am a big fan of PvP.
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LegendaryBear6 (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2020, 11:53 p.m.
The strong prey on the weak it is just how things work. Eventually as you keep building you will be the strong one. It just takes patience and a bit of time.
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ImperialGuard (US1) [US1]
:: May 1, 2020, 3:35 p.m.
Well you can put bird for 5 years and enjoy nomads and samurais and berymond. Another good use of bird why people underestimate it .
When you reach lvl 800 after 4-5 years you will be able to defend against lvl 800's and join a big alliance.
When you reach lvl 800 after 4-5 years you will be able to defend against lvl 800's and join a big alliance.
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Wasso (INT3) [INT3]
:: May 1, 2020, 6:15 p.m.
Unfortunately, that IS the direction the Game has been going. The appetite for PvP, which was the original design of the game, has seemingly run its course. The vast majority want to play the events only.StrongCommander (US1) said:Well you can put bird for 5 years and enjoy nomads and samurais and berymond. Another good use of bird why people underestimate it .
When you reach lvl 800 after 4-5 years you will be able to defend against lvl 800's and join a big alliance.
IMO, this is the result OF the events themselves. As people learned that they should be able to hit targets with minimal losses, the expectation became that they should be able to hit ANYTHING and get the same results. Also, since the events don't hit back - unless you ASK them to *Khan* - the expectation is that you don't need to worry about defending. (Even when the FLs would hit back ONCE per event - people complained)
This all lead to the expectation that the game should be all about ME. I should be able to hit all I want and destroy their troops, but no one should be able to hit and destroy mine. You see this a lot in the Outer Realms. People want to go in and hit 15 Castles to get the Daily Duty, but if ONE person hits THEM, they get completely bent out of shape. ALL my troops are gone! What can I do now? --- Didn't care when you wiped out those other 15 player's troops, now did ya? ---
At the end of the day, I believe that TOO MANY Players would be happy if this was a downloadable single player game. Just you vs. NPCs......
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ImperialGuard (US1) [US1]
:: May 1, 2020, 9:37 p.m.
Wasso I dont say dont do PvP . Just hide behind the bird until you are strong enough to face them.Wasso (INT3) said:Unfortunately, that IS the direction the Game has been going. The appetite for PvP, which was the original design of the game, has seemingly run its course. The vast majority want to play the events only.StrongCommander (US1) said:Well you can put bird for 5 years and enjoy nomads and samurais and berymond. Another good use of bird why people underestimate it .
When you reach lvl 800 after 4-5 years you will be able to defend against lvl 800's and join a big alliance.
IMO, this is the result OF the events themselves. As people learned that they should be able to hit targets with minimal losses, the expectation became that they should be able to hit ANYTHING and get the same results. Also, since the events don't hit back - unless you ASK them to *Khan* - the expectation is that you don't need to worry about defending. (Even when the FLs would hit back ONCE per event - people complained)
This all lead to the expectation that the game should be all about ME. I should be able to hit all I want and destroy their troops, but no one should be able to hit and destroy mine. You see this a lot in the Outer Realms. People want to go in and hit 15 Castles to get the Daily Duty, but if ONE person hits THEM, they get completely bent out of shape. ALL my troops are gone! What can I do now? --- Didn't care when you wiped out those other 15 player's troops, now did ya? ---
At the end of the day, I believe that TOO MANY Players would be happy if this was a downloadable single player game. Just you vs. NPCs......
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Venom (AU1) [AU1]
:: May 2, 2020, 12:35 a.m.
Only 6 months and $3000 and you can compete with the top dogs. What a great investment.StrongCommander (US1) said:Wasso I dont say dont do PvP . Just hide behind the bird until you are strong enough to face them.Wasso (INT3) said:Unfortunately, that IS the direction the Game has been going. The appetite for PvP, which was the original design of the game, has seemingly run its course. The vast majority want to play the events only.StrongCommander (US1) said:Well you can put bird for 5 years and enjoy nomads and samurais and berymond. Another good use of bird why people underestimate it .
When you reach lvl 800 after 4-5 years you will be able to defend against lvl 800's and join a big alliance.
IMO, this is the result OF the events themselves. As people learned that they should be able to hit targets with minimal losses, the expectation became that they should be able to hit ANYTHING and get the same results. Also, since the events don't hit back - unless you ASK them to *Khan* - the expectation is that you don't need to worry about defending. (Even when the FLs would hit back ONCE per event - people complained)
This all lead to the expectation that the game should be all about ME. I should be able to hit all I want and destroy their troops, but no one should be able to hit and destroy mine. You see this a lot in the Outer Realms. People want to go in and hit 15 Castles to get the Daily Duty, but if ONE person hits THEM, they get completely bent out of shape. ALL my troops are gone! What can I do now? --- Didn't care when you wiped out those other 15 player's troops, now did ya? ---
At the end of the day, I believe that TOO MANY Players would be happy if this was a downloadable single player game. Just you vs. NPCs......
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ImperialGuard (US1) [US1]
:: May 2, 2020, 4:07 p.m.
It is if you really like the game.Venom (AU1) said:Only 6 months and $3000 and you can compete with the top dogs. What a great investment.StrongCommander (US1) said:Wasso I dont say dont do PvP . Just hide behind the bird until you are strong enough to face them.Wasso (INT3) said:Unfortunately, that IS the direction the Game has been going. The appetite for PvP, which was the original design of the game, has seemingly run its course. The vast majority want to play the events only.StrongCommander (US1) said:Well you can put bird for 5 years and enjoy nomads and samurais and berymond. Another good use of bird why people underestimate it .
When you reach lvl 800 after 4-5 years you will be able to defend against lvl 800's and join a big alliance.
IMO, this is the result OF the events themselves. As people learned that they should be able to hit targets with minimal losses, the expectation became that they should be able to hit ANYTHING and get the same results. Also, since the events don't hit back - unless you ASK them to *Khan* - the expectation is that you don't need to worry about defending. (Even when the FLs would hit back ONCE per event - people complained)
This all lead to the expectation that the game should be all about ME. I should be able to hit all I want and destroy their troops, but no one should be able to hit and destroy mine. You see this a lot in the Outer Realms. People want to go in and hit 15 Castles to get the Daily Duty, but if ONE person hits THEM, they get completely bent out of shape. ALL my troops are gone! What can I do now? --- Didn't care when you wiped out those other 15 player's troops, now did ya? ---
At the end of the day, I believe that TOO MANY Players would be happy if this was a downloadable single player game. Just you vs. NPCs......
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Hands up (GB1) [GB1]
:: May 5, 2020, 9:57 a.m.
I know I am stating the obvious but that is a huge waste of money.