Forum: empire-en
Board: [587] Alliance introductions & searches
Topic: [113966] My friend, Onslaught, a Lv17, 1431 honor, looking for alliance
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 2:24 p.m.
ruby buildings like stables and bakery are most important in the main castle. a food OP already produces more then 2X the amount of food as a main castle does, so it automatically holds more troops. and did you miss the part about it being stolen? that means he didnt pay for any of it, he may never buy rubies for all we know.
and did you miss the part about how its damaged and torn apart? have you looked at the OP? at how many farmhouses it is missing? its probably not even producing 1/10th of what it can with full lvl 10 farmhouses and no damage. a good size army in a server war is 1000+, i doubt he can hold that many level 4-5 troops in his OP, and even if he could would he have the tools/experience to send a good atk out?
and neph alliances dont promise more honor and glory. honor- gained by hitting people with more honor or close to the same honor as you as long as they are not to much of a lower level
-glory- gained by atking people. more defenders killed=more glory, more honor=larger glory boost, and you can use commander gear to get more honor/glory as well. the name neph is not a mystic charm that provides honor and glory
and another point i forgot to make last time is its easy to hold high honor as a level 17, because not that many people can hit him. even a lvl 25 would likely lose honor hitting him, even though lvl 70's can hit people as low as lvl 50 without losing honor. and 1400 isnt that hard, i pass it all the time. 2000+ is alot more impressive on a level 40+ person, not 1400 on a guy that almost no one can hit without losing honor themselves
I agree with what you say, but the OP produces 1500 food, which is pretty decent. And I dont know if he buys rubies or not, but i'll ask him if you want. He says he wants a neph allaince (based on what he told me, he isnt here right now) because his current alliance is very inactive, never clicks the help button, and doesnt allow him to attack anyone. If he could, he would probably be in the top 5 instead of top 25 for honor 1-19. He may not buy rubies, as I stated earlier, I dont really know, but he DOES have a good outpost that he is working on rebuilding, and it can hold alot of troops, even at its current state. Based on my math, it can hold at least 750 tier 4/5 troops, which is PRETTY good for his level. He does produce a decent amount of food, and he can raid people for food, so those measurements are without going into red. I am guessing he can maintain at least 1k troops there if he has a way to get food.
His RBC's are lv 10-15, so he can maintain the coin cost.
I would like to thank you again for the points youve pointed out to me, I will talk to him about these.
Thanks
Evren
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 2:33 p.m.
as i said, i was not 100% sure on that. also, its a 6 food OP with almost no farmhouses, and most the farmhouses he does have are lower then level 5. my 8 food OP holds about 1600 troops that take 4 food when it has a lvl 8 bakery, so i doubt he will hold 2K, especially if he wont spend rubies on his main. why would he use overseeer and premium mode (ruby bought) when he wont even spend 1000 rubies on his main?
plus since he is such a low level he wont be able to afford an army that size, by the time he had the coinage to do it his old troops will have already died, whether from a hit on the OP or a bad hit on someone else
wierd glitch, sorry
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Lexx7 [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 2:53 p.m.
evrenconquerer wrote: »I agree with what you say, but the OP produces 1500 food, which is pretty decent. And I dont know if he buys rubies or not, but i'll ask him if you want. He says he wants a neph allaince (based on what he told me, he isnt here right now) because his current alliance is very inactive, never clicks the help button, and doesnt allow him to attack anyone. If he could, he would probably be in the top 5 instead of top 25 for honor 1-19. He may not buy rubies, as I stated earlier, I dont really know, but he DOES have a good outpost that he is working on rebuilding, and it can hold alot of troops, even at its current state. Based on my math, it can hold at least 750 tier 4/5 troops, which is PRETTY good for his level. He does produce a decent amount of food, and he can raid people for food, so those measurements are without going into red. I am guessing he can maintain at least 1k troops there if he has a way to get food.
His RBC's are lv 10-15, so he can maintain the coin cost.
I would like to thank you again for the points youve pointed out to me, I will talk to him about these.
Thanks
Evren
i doubt that it produces 1500 food. my 8 food OP holds 16 farmhouses all level 10, and produces about double that. his OP holds 3 level 10, 4 level 4, and a couple level 3s. plus His OP has damage on it, lowering production from what it could be.
however, assuming it somehow miraculously does produce that much, 1500/2.4 (food cost per soldier with max bakery) is about 625 soldiers. and even with high level robber barons, they give a few coins yes, but not enough that he could hold that size an army with that expensive of troops. the time to build it is to long to assume he would not have lose men due to a hit on him/a failed atk he sent. and robber barons get harder to beat as time goes on, so soon the RBC method will be no good also, at least till he can find a way to beat them without losing to many men
if he loses more then 10 men in an RBC hit, then right off the bat its not as much earned as was lost.
and just because your in a neph alliances doesnt mean people hit the help button or are active.
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 3:25 p.m.
i doubt that it produces 1500 food. my 8 food OP holds 16 farmhouses all level 10, and produces about double that. his OP holds 3 level 10, 4 level 4, and a couple level 3s. plus His OP has damage on it, lowering production from what it could be.
however, assuming it somehow miraculously does produce that much, 1500/2.4 (food cost per soldier with max bakery) is about 625 soldiers. and even with high level robber barons, they give a few coins yes, but not enough that he could hold that size an army with that expensive of troops. the time to build it is to long to assume he would not have lose men due to a hit on him/a failed atk he sent. and robber barons get harder to beat as time goes on, so soon the RBC method will be no good also, at least till he can find a way to beat them without losing to many men
if he loses more then 10 men in an RBC hit, then right off the bat its not as much earned as was lost.
and just because your in a neph alliances doesnt mean people hit the help button or are active.
Youre just looking at the worst possible scenarios. So far, he hasnt lost ANY men on RBC attack, and true, even though they give little coins, he as 10 of them at at least lv 10. He hits them about every 2 hours. That enough to keep troops recruiting constantly. Nad it does produce 1.5k, the 3 lv 10 farmhouses produce about 350 per because of PO. I have an OP with the same amount of PO, it has 6 lv10 farms. It produces 2300 food on its own, with no bonuses. If his OP even has some extra lv 4-5 farms, it would certainly produce that much, because those farms would have PO onus AND the 100% production.I if youre going to keep denouncing him in any way possible, please stop posting.
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Lexx7 [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 4:13 p.m.
evrenconquerer wrote: »Youre just looking at the worst possible scenarios. So far, he hasnt lost ANY men on RBC attack, and true, even though they give little coins, he as 10 of them at at least lv 10. He hits them about every 2 hours. That enough to keep troops recruiting constantly. Nad it does produce 1.5k, the 3 lv 10 farmhouses produce about 350 per because of PO. I have an OP with the same amount of PO, it has 6 lv10 farms. It produces 2300 food on its own, with no bonuses. If his OP even has some extra lv 4-5 farms, it would certainly produce that much, because those farms would have PO onus AND the 100% production.I if youre going to keep denouncing him in any way possible, please stop posting.
im not trying to denounce him, im just saying that he sounds like he has been exaggerated. for example, my OP is an 8 food, and it has 340 food per hour for a 100% farmhouse at lvl 10, no damage, tons of PO including some ruby stuff
http://gyazo.com/e79f713337333a14520c71f80655d2b0
proof included
your saying his OP produces 350 for a 100% farmhouse with damage on it and all over the castle which lower production rates.
http://gyazo.com/8322114653348abc8c2c8e21841fcbf7
there is his OP
so your saying that my OP (which has more decor and protection bonus points then his) produces less even though it has damage on it and mine is not damaged at all? and 350X3=1050, so your saying 3 level 4's, ad a few level 3 farmhouses give about 500 food? i showed you my screen shots, care to show me yours where we can see his 1500 food per hour? all im asking is for proof cause it seems hard to believe that he gets that much with so few/such low level farm houses
also, your saying your OP with the same PO produces only 800 more, even though his OP can level up all his farmhouses a total of around 40 times? and each level increase gives the same amount increase of food. and i am assuming that this is the OP your talking about?
http://gyazo.com/b7b5e162e637809d5b2ebbbf22b5fb21
so 6X350=2100. that means that the level 7, 5, 2, and 1 farmhouses together make only 200 food? your "math" doesnt work out that well. and yes i realize they have less production then the 100% ones, but that much less? the 75% one alone should produce... (350/100=3.5X75=262) 262 food. thats more then the level 7, 5, 2, and 1 put together make by your "math"
again, not trying to denounce him, just trying to clarify how this all works. i checked the math, and it doesnt pan out. (not to mention that 350 production means that an 8 food OP produces 2800 with just 8 farmhouses. does that mean my other 8 farmhouses produce 200 altogether?)
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 4:22 p.m.
im not trying to denounce him, im just saying that he sounds like he has been exaggerated. for example, my OP is an 8 food, and it has 340 food per hour for a 100% farmhouse at lvl 10, no damage, tons of PO including some ruby stuff
http://gyazo.com/e79f713337333a14520c71f80655d2b0
proof included
your saying his OP produces 350 for a 100% farmhouse with damage on it and all over the castle which lower production rates.
http://gyazo.com/8322114653348abc8c2c8e21841fcbf7
there is his OP
so your saying that my OP (which has more decor and protection bonus points then his) produces less even though it has damage on it and mine is not damaged at all? and 350X3=1050, so your saying 3 level 4's, ad a few level 3 farmhouses give about 500 food? i showed you my screen shots, care to show me yours where we can see his 1500 food per hour? all im asking is for proof cause it seems hard to believe that he gets that much with so few/such low level farm houses
also, your saying your OP with the same PO produces only 800 more, even though his OP can level up all his farmhouses a total of around 40 times? and each level increase gives the same amount increase of food. and i am assuming that this is the OP your talking about?
http://gyazo.com/b7b5e162e637809d5b2ebbbf22b5fb21
so 6X350=2100. that means that the level 7, 5, 2, and 1 farmhouses together make only 200 food? your "math" doesnt work out that well. and yes i realize they have less production then the 100% ones, but that much less? the 75% one alone should produce... (350/100=3.5X75=262) 262 food. thats more then the level 7, 5, 2, and 1 put together make by your "math"
again, not trying to denounce him, just trying to clarify how this all works. i checked the math, and it doesnt pan out. (not to mention that 350 production means that an 8 food OP produces 2800 with just 8 farmhouses. does that mean my other 8 farmhouses produce 200 altogether?)
IDK about the lv10's that is an estimate. But the lv4's (they are lv5 now) each produce 175....
He showed me. And you are right, the lv10's are probably about 300-315
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 8:13 p.m.
Any news from Neph Rabble?
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Conan (GB1) [None]
:: Nov. 24, 2014, 8:38 p.m.
i doubt that it produces 1500 food.
If he has stated that it produces 1,500 food why should you doubt that? No matter what's going on with your Ops, PO increases food a lot and there's a few other perks I believe.
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TannerM. (US1) [US1]
:: Nov. 25, 2014, 2:29 a.m.
You guys are going way too in depth, Neph Rabble is listed as a training sub so I would expect them to take him in if he is active and willing to learn. I don't see the point in telling him why he won't make it in, for all you know, he may become one of the best in Neph Rabble and move up into one of the larger groups.
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Lexx7 [None]
:: Nov. 25, 2014, 9:36 a.m.
If he has stated that it produces 1,500 food why should you doubt that? No matter what's going on with your Ops, PO increases food a lot and there's a few other perks I believe.
i doubt it because
-his OP has damage, so production is lowered
-my OP gives higher PO and defense boosts, and has 8 farmhouses at 100%, but produces only 2X that
-they said his OP produces 350 food per farmhouse. again, mine doesnt produce that much and its in better condition
-we already established the fact that he is not a ruby buyer
i doubted him cause of something called logic. try using it, its awesome
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 25, 2014, 1:03 p.m.
i doubt it because
-his OP has damage, so production is lowered
-my OP gives higher PO and defense boosts, and has 8 farmhouses at 100%, but produces only 2X that
-they said his OP produces 350 food per farmhouse. again, mine doesnt produce that much and its in better condition
-we already established the fact that he is not a ruby buyer
i doubted him cause of something called logic. try using it, its awesome
Please, if youre not going to say anything good, dont say it at all
-We established the fact that I DONT KNOW the exact amounts
-We established the fact that he want to get into Neph Rabble, not KoN3
-We established the fact that he is a MUCH LOWER level than you
So you can be quiet please
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 25, 2014, 1:06 p.m.
Good news all! He is now 1540 honor, no longer 1431 
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Lexx7 [None]
:: Nov. 25, 2014, 8:47 p.m.
evrenconquerer wrote: »Please, if youre not going to say anything good, dont say it at all
-We established the fact that I DONT KNOW the exact amounts
-We established the fact that he want to get into Neph Rabble, not KoN3
-We established the fact that he is a MUCH LOWER level than you
So you can be quiet please
yes, we did establish that fact, but they asked why i doubted. should i ignore questions? cause i thought people ask questions to get an answer.
my last post doesnt mention KON3. the only time i did was after you posted he was near KON3, so idk why your bringing that up
yes he is a much lower lvl, but that has to do with what?
-lower lvls can buy the same number of rubies
-his OP was stolen from a much Higher lvl, so low lvl is no excuse for anything
-your the one saying things like he has high PO and he has lvl 10 farmhouses and crap which is why he has such high production
-your first posts about it said he produced 350, then you later correct and say 300-315 per hour. how is that not knowing the exact amount? because you didnt place the decimal?
why are you so mad at me for answering questions and questioning things that seem unlikely? anti-ignorance warrior, away!
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 26, 2014, 12:06 p.m.
He now is lv19, and is upgrading an estate. I dont know if he will capture another high-level outpost, but im guessing so xD
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 26, 2014, 12:08 p.m.
yes, we did establish that fact, but they asked why i doubted. should i ignore questions? cause i thought people ask questions to get an answer.
my last post doesnt mention KON3. the only time i did was after you posted he was near KON3, so idk why your bringing that up
yes he is a much lower lvl, but that has to do with what?
-lower lvls can buy the same number of rubies
-his OP was stolen from a much Higher lvl, so low lvl is no excuse for anything
-your the one saying things like he has high PO and he has lvl 10 farmhouses and crap which is why he has such high production
-your first posts about it said he produced 350, then you later correct and say 300-315 per hour. how is that not knowing the exact amount? because you didnt place the decimal?
why are you so mad at me for answering questions and questioning things that seem unlikely? anti-ignorance warrior, away!
Ok, sure, I make mistakes. Are you saying that you are perfect? Im just trying to say that he said that he is NEAR KoN3, and that means that he is right next to a branch of KoN. It doesnt mean he wants to join them directly. Can you nit take it so deep?
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 26, 2014, 11:05 p.m.
ok, He is now lv19, and is capping an 8food OP that is 13 clicks away from him. It has lv10 farms and some pretty good Decos. He also has 1613 honor now =D
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Lexx7 [None]
:: Nov. 28, 2014, midnight
evrenconquerer wrote: »Ok, sure, I make mistakes. Are you saying that you are perfect? Im just trying to say that he said that he is NEAR KoN3, and that means that he is right next to a branch of KoN. It doesnt mean he wants to join them directly. Can you nit take it so deep?
-never said i was perfect
-what is the point of saying he is near a KON branch if you then say he doesnt want to join them? you randomly threw in a fact that you now claim has nothing to do with anything. doesnt matter if he is near them, cause they cant send him support, they could send resources, but anyone can do that, and he gets no benefits from their alliance bonuses if he is not part of them
-and i will try to "nit" take it so deep as you put it. (how did i take it deep? again, saying he is near KON3 implies he wants SOMETHING to do with them, unless we are just throwing out random facts. the sky is blue by the way)
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 28, 2014, 12:07 a.m.
-never said i was perfect
-what is the point of saying he is near a KON branch if you then say he doesnt want to join them? you randomly threw in a fact that you now claim has nothing to do with anything. doesnt matter if he is near them, cause they cant send him support, they could send resources, but anyone can do that, and he gets no benefits from their alliance bonuses if he is not part of them
-and i will try to "nit" take it so deep as you put it. (how did i take it deep? again, saying he is near KON3 implies he wants SOMETHING to do with them, unless we are just throwing out random facts. the sky is blue by the way)
He wants to join Neph Rabble, that is a sub alliance, no?
Also, here in Atlanta, the sky is gray xD
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evrenconquerer [None]
:: Nov. 28, 2014, 12:07 a.m.
Ok, now he is exceeding my highest expectations.... 1709 honor !!!!!
So he is lv 19, 1709 honor.... look at the thread title xD
Any news from Neph Rabble?
So he is lv 19, 1709 honor.... look at the thread title xD
Any news from Neph Rabble?
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Lexx7 [None]
:: Nov. 28, 2014, 12:18 a.m.
evrenconquerer wrote: »He wants to join Neph Rabble, that is a sub alliance, no?
Also, here in Atlanta, the sky is gray xD
yes neph rabble is a sub... but you made a point about KON3, not neph rabble
also, saw the OP he is capping. even if his whole alliance supports, my commander/troops are strong enough to kick his troops to the curb and knock the cap... should i be that guy that does that kinda crap? or will i be a nice lexx7 and let him keep it..... decisions... :P
to be continued....