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Forum: empire-en
Board: [587] Alliance introductions & searches
Topic: [119606] reverse tool cleaning setup

[-119606] I AM SPARTA (GB1) [None] :: June 9, 2015, 2:30 a.m.
its a personal hate of mine when i see it when i send spies

ie. 1%
1%---98%

when i see it just makes me want to attack more and go strongerX(

so all ye guys that think its a deterrent cause of wasting my tools.
i will hit ye more often than any other alliance.;)

just my feeling how does everyone else feel or am i out of line here

many thanks look forward to your response8|

[1993176] TannerM. (US1) [US1] :: June 9, 2015, 2:36 a.m.
its a personal hate of mine when i see it when i send spies

ie. 1%
1%---98%

when i see it just makes me want to attack more and go strongerX(

so all ye guys that think its a deterrent cause of wasting my tools.
i will hit ye more often than any other alliance.;)

just my feeling how does everyone else feel or am i out of line here

many thanks look forward to your response8|

Aside from being in the wrong section, I disagree.

To me, people who complain about this set up are basically saying, "How dare you make things more difficult for me when I attack you. Now I'm going to burn you even more because you made it clear that you don't want to be attacked."

Besides, if you're attacking someone who is on and you don't send tools on those waves, you're done anyway. You should thank them for making you prepare for the worst.

[1993180] I AM SPARTA (GB1) [None] :: June 9, 2015, 2:41 a.m.
TannerM. wrote: »
Aside from being in the wrong section, I disagree.

To me, people who complain about this set up are basically saying, "How dare you make things more difficult for me when I attack you. Now I'm going to burn you even more because you made it clear that you don't want to be attacked."

Besides, if you're attacking someone who is on and you don't send tools on those waves, you're done anyway. You should thank them for making you prepare for the worst.

I always send tools on all 3 sides and all waves i think it would be silly not to.
the player i am attacking must think he is going to loose, otherwise he would not do that. As if he wins i loose my tools anyway. but now if i win i still loose extra tools

[1993185] TannerM. (US1) [US1] :: June 9, 2015, 2:58 a.m.
I always send tools on all 3 sides and all waves i think it would be silly not to.
the player i am attacking must think he is going to loose, otherwise he would not do that. As if he wins i loose my tools anyway. but now if i win i still loose extra tools

Not necessarily, some players do so to deter being attacked. I know I personally factor that in when I decide to hit somebody.

Somebody who has a firecast up at all times is assuming they're going to lose every defense. Someone who does this doesn't like fires and understands they can't be on at all times so they're going to make you work a bit more for it. I use this set up as well, personally, if someone wants to attack me, I feel I'm worth a bit more than only one flank of tools. I'm just not that type of girl to let everyone walk in through my gate without putting some work in.

[1993189] I AM SPARTA (GB1) [None] :: June 9, 2015, 3:05 a.m.
TannerM. wrote: »
Not necessarily, some players do so to deter being attacked. I know I personally factor that in when I decide to hit somebody.

Somebody who has a firecast up at all times is assuming they're going to lose every defense. Someone who does this doesn't like fires and understands they can't be on at all times so they're going to make you work a bit more for it. I use this set up as well, personally, if someone wants to attack me, I feel I'm worth a bit more than only one flank of tools. I'm just not that type of girl to let everyone walk in through my gate without putting some work in.


i think you misunderstand what i am saying. I send to all 3 sides with tools but because of this setup i loose extra tools on first wave , if i win. i do find its weak alliances and weak players as a rule that use this setup.

question back at you tanner would you find it disrespectful if i only sent 4th wave full and had just 3 troops in each first 3 waves then? as i could say like you it deserves to cost you more if your worthy of my attack

[1993196] TannerM. (US1) [US1] :: June 9, 2015, 3:34 a.m.
i think you misunderstand what i am saying. I send to all 3 sides with tools but because of this setup i loose extra tools on first wave , if i win. i do find its weak alliances and weak players as a rule that use this setup.

question back at you tanner would you find it disrespectful if i only sent 4th wave full and had just 3 troops in each first 3 waves then? as i could say like you it deserves to cost you more if your worthy of my attack

In attack and defense, the attacker is the aggressor, the defender can be considered the target or victim. If you're going to attack somebody, you're directly saying you'd cost them time and money in exchange for your own benefit. I get it's a war game and you should be prepared to get attacked and defend, I'm not complaining about fires or being attacked. I am saying that if you're going to complain about someone costing you more tools with the 1 - 1 - 98 set up, then don't attack them. You're costing them far more in time, money, and possibly resources if you win.

For your question, I would personally be a bit upset as tool wasting someone in an attack is different than tool wasting a defense. If I attack and tool waste someone, I am consciously wasting their tools in an effort to be annoying and cost them money. If I waste somebody's tools who is attacking me, I probably wasn't on to defend so they just lit me up. If you're going to attack somebody and get tool wasted, you attacked them knowing how that it would happen (assuming you had a spy report). If you attack someone and they change to tool waste, they weren't prepared to defend against you. In either circumstance, you are responsible for what happens as you're the aggressor. There is a reason the person who throws the first punch is always at fault.

[1993250] Some guy5 (GB1) [None] :: June 9, 2015, 9:17 a.m.
Please close this thread. This discussion should be under suggestions praise and criticism this hasn't been news for a long long time let alone being in the alliance introduction section.

[1995261] ParaREXX [None] :: June 14, 2015, 3:36 p.m.
Some guy5 wrote: »
Please close this thread. This discussion should be under suggestions praise and criticism this hasn't been news for a long long time let alone being in the alliance introduction section.

ty captian obivious...but he did state that he feels like attaking alliances using this set up

[1995275] Graycat (US1) (Banned) [None] :: June 14, 2015, 4:26 p.m.
I agree with tanner, this is an idea that came from someone who likes losing attacks. He actually sent me a message and said he likes being attacked and he makes it easy for people to do it too. If you don't want attacked, use a 1-1-98 setup.

The point of this thread is to get GGS to take away to option to use custom defense settings. It will never happen.

[1995276] Unknown :: June 14, 2015, 4:28 p.m.
You agree with Tanner??? O.o ...

[1995279] Graycat (US1) (Banned) [None] :: June 14, 2015, 4:31 p.m.
Only on his posts that it's a bad idea that would destroy the game and make half the players stop buying rubies and or leave. And on his player introduction thread too.

[1995547] I AM SPARTA (GB1) [None] :: June 15, 2015, 2:29 a.m.
Graycat3 wrote: »
Only on his posts that it's a bad idea that would destroy the game and make half the players stop buying rubies and or leave. And on his player introduction thread too.

sorry graycat3 i did post in wrong thread first time an all
but this is what i mean my attack tonight i used an extra 40 tools cause of 99---0---1
but he paid the price
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh5c6slo6qi77em/Screenshot%202015-06-15%2003.27.15.png?dl=0