Forum: empire-en
Board: [588] Alliance News & Diplomacy
Topic: [79500] Message to all Sparta members!
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 6:06 p.m.
If you want to keep your extra villages in ice kingdom, you will have to leave sparta. If you are in sparta, you are our enemy and target. Sparta is playing their way and forcing us to play ours. The choice is yours.
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laxstar [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 6:56 p.m.
um you have one alliance correct well i have read the threads about this issue with sparta and you guys and im pretty sure sparta romans coud take care of you by themselves
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 9:23 p.m.
Every sparta alliance had to declare war on us to take care of us. Romans were the first and even with help from members in other sparta alliances, they failed miserably. Soon after their first wave of attacks, other sparta alliances declared war, then more and now we have almost 20 sparta alliances at war with us. Sparta is fighting an unconventional war with us, so we are forced to do the same. This first step will at least level the playing field a bit in ice, since so many of them have more than 5 food villages.
We welcome a battle with sparta romans anytime, but from my understanding about sparta, you can't do that. Attacks on one sparta is attacks on all sparta.
We did not throw the first blow in this battle. The evidence has scrolled away, but many of our members saw the reports and know the truth. That is why we will not give into the lies.
We welcome a battle with sparta romans anytime, but from my understanding about sparta, you can't do that. Attacks on one sparta is attacks on all sparta.
We did not throw the first blow in this battle. The evidence has scrolled away, but many of our members saw the reports and know the truth. That is why we will not give into the lies.
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the champion [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 9:32 p.m.
We welcome a battle with sparta romans anytime, but from my understanding about sparta, you can't do that. Attacks on one sparta is attacks on all sparta.
well obviously, that's what makes a true alliance, you can't just declare war on one part of the alliance and expect the rest of the alliance not to attack you as well, that's like a america declaring war with a part of England (random example) which would be stupid
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darknessrising (US1) [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 10:01 p.m.
this is plain sad no wonder you guys are getting the bacon beat out of you. I personally want someone to just close this piece of garbage.
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evets4 [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 10:20 p.m.
Why are there so many threads about this exact same thing?? I've read over 5 of these threads bashing on Sparta, and you just keep making new ones after the old ones die down...
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Luke Fierysword [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 11:04 p.m.
LOL you know you just admitted to being a village thief?!
ALL HONORABLE LORDS!!! WE MUST PUT AN END TO THESE THIEVES ONCE AND FOR ALL BEFORE THEY STEAL YOUR VILLAGES TOO!!!
ALL HONORABLE LORDS!!! WE MUST PUT AN END TO THESE THIEVES ONCE AND FOR ALL BEFORE THEY STEAL YOUR VILLAGES TOO!!!
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 11:07 p.m.
I am trying to send a message and you are making this topic something it was not meant to be. I never asked anyone to reply, yet many of you chose to do so. If it is getting sad, it's because you are making it so.
This is alliance news. Rather than send it to all sparta, it is easier to make one post in a public forum for all to see. Especially since there are so many sparta members and supporters that visit these forums.
This is alliance news. Rather than send it to all sparta, it is easier to make one post in a public forum for all to see. Especially since there are so many sparta members and supporters that visit these forums.
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DillonCail [None]
:: Nov. 5, 2012, 11:26 p.m.
Every sparta alliance had to declare war on us to take care of us. Romans were the first and even with help from members in other sparta alliances, they failed miserably. Soon after their first wave of attacks, other sparta alliances declared war, then more and now we have almost 20 sparta alliances at war with us. Sparta is fighting an unconventional war with us, so we are forced to do the same. This first step will at least level the playing field a bit in ice, since so many of them have more than 5 food villages.
We welcome a battle with sparta romans anytime, but from my understanding about sparta, you can't do that. Attacks on one sparta is attacks on all sparta.
We did not throw the first blow in this battle. The evidence has scrolled away, but many of our members saw the reports and know the truth. That is why we will not give into the lies.
Sorry BigQd, but most of what you have written here is not true. If you will remember back 3 days ago, you had declared war to many of Sparta's divisions, yourself. Members were messaging me, asking "Do you know the alliance, the 400 range? Who are they? They just declared war on us."
Next, those attacks on you in the very beginning, that was not our first wave. They were designed as a warning to leave us alone, and the order was for light attacks that would not crush you. After you declared war on us, well you know what happened.
I don't even care who struck first, none of that matters to me. What matters to me is protocol. Sparta Romans followed protocol and you did not. Without talking to me, you attacked one of my divisions. And so I sent you a warning shot. After, you declared war on many of our divisions. There were many opportunities for you to approach me to resolve the matter peacefully and you did not need to declare war on Sparta.
If you walk into a cage with a lion and strike it, what do you think will happen to you? Now let's say you bring your children in with you too? That is how I feel about what you have done to your alliance. You willingly made an enemy out of an alliance that overwhelms you in power. And you did so while leading an alliance of players that all trust you to keep them safe. It seems sometimes like you care more about Sparta than your own alliance.. and they are all suffering in a war that you could have avoided.
Very shortly after I began playing this game, I joined a weak alliance, much like the 400 range. Soon after joining, I was promoted to Ambassador and became responsible for keeping all of us safe. The name of that alliance was "Sparta." We are here today in part because for every decision I had to make, I considered the safety of our members. If it's just you, go ahead and carry out your vendetta against Sparta. But Geez man, I guess we think a lot differently.
It did not help that hours after I posted "Sparta will not steal your villages in this war" you attacked and stole irreplaceable villages from our Grand King, garyh1981, in the ice world while he slept. I am not saying you can not do it, but I don't think you made any friends by doing that.
With all of your members burning so badly, why are you here on the forum? Why aren't you working towards a solution that will guarantee their safety? They believe in you.
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 12:39 a.m.
I don't think we declared war on any divisions that didn't attack us at least once. If you recall, we did not declare war on your division until after you personally had sent attacks, even though I believe several others from your alliance had. At least 8 or 10 divisions of sparta had declared war on us before we declared war on any of them. At that point, we figure what the heck, may as well declare war on all of them if they are all going to declare war on us one at a time anyway.
No one contacted any of us to see why freddts attacked your member, before launching a huge attack on several of our members and I don't see any reason for him to have to ask you for permission to retaliate for the theft. We are not sparta, we do not follow your protocols. If you had contacted us, we would have been able to provide the evidence then that you now seek. The mere fact that your guys are demanding to see the evidence is proof that no one ever even tried to verify anything before planning and launching a revenge attack, or we would have been able to provide screenshots of the reports. Is that your idea of good protocol? Our first notice of a problem was when almost 30 attacks started showing up on our members. Freddts was so upset when he saw that 2 of his villages had been taken, he did not ask for permission to attack, he just attacked. Had he asked, we probably would have joined in, because I'm sure you know how valuable those extra villages are by now and your boy needed to understand that.
The funny thing is that I don't think freddts was even targeted in your first revenge attack and he was the one that did the attacking to begin with. After your first attacks and losses, people just kept on attacking and attacking, and the more they lost, the more other divisions declared war on us and joined in the attacks.
Your message was received loud and clear. We are sparta. We can do whatever we like and if you don't like it, tough. That even includes taking irreplaceable villages. Well here is my reply. No! X(
You should care who attacked first, because that is the only reason to justify attacks, unless you condone going around attacking and stealing from anyone and everyone. You are welcome to play however you like, as are we, but please stop trying to convince me and everyone else that sparta is something that sparta is not. I'm not sure of your protocols, but if one is to verify a reason for attacks before declaring war on an alliance and launching a mass attack on all of them, then no one followed protocol.
No one contacted any of us to see why freddts attacked your member, before launching a huge attack on several of our members and I don't see any reason for him to have to ask you for permission to retaliate for the theft. We are not sparta, we do not follow your protocols. If you had contacted us, we would have been able to provide the evidence then that you now seek. The mere fact that your guys are demanding to see the evidence is proof that no one ever even tried to verify anything before planning and launching a revenge attack, or we would have been able to provide screenshots of the reports. Is that your idea of good protocol? Our first notice of a problem was when almost 30 attacks started showing up on our members. Freddts was so upset when he saw that 2 of his villages had been taken, he did not ask for permission to attack, he just attacked. Had he asked, we probably would have joined in, because I'm sure you know how valuable those extra villages are by now and your boy needed to understand that.
The funny thing is that I don't think freddts was even targeted in your first revenge attack and he was the one that did the attacking to begin with. After your first attacks and losses, people just kept on attacking and attacking, and the more they lost, the more other divisions declared war on us and joined in the attacks.
Your message was received loud and clear. We are sparta. We can do whatever we like and if you don't like it, tough. That even includes taking irreplaceable villages. Well here is my reply. No! X(
You should care who attacked first, because that is the only reason to justify attacks, unless you condone going around attacking and stealing from anyone and everyone. You are welcome to play however you like, as are we, but please stop trying to convince me and everyone else that sparta is something that sparta is not. I'm not sure of your protocols, but if one is to verify a reason for attacks before declaring war on an alliance and launching a mass attack on all of them, then no one followed protocol.
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 12:42 a.m.
As far as this village war. You backed us into a corner and left us no choice. I never agreed not to take villages. All I agreed to was winning this war.
If I had said, we promise not to mass attack any of your members, would you not have mass attacked any of ours? If so, then I promise, we will not mass attack any of your members.
If I had said, we promise not to mass attack any of your members, would you not have mass attacked any of ours? If so, then I promise, we will not mass attack any of your members.
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Colt442 [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 12:44 a.m.
Gee guys, just kiss & make up already.
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Luke Fierysword [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 1:56 a.m.
I don't think we declared war on any divisions that didn't attack us at least once. If you recall, we did not declare war on your division until after you personally had sent attacks, even though I believe several others from your alliance had. At least 8 or 10 divisions of sparta had declared war on us before we declared war on any of them. At that point, we figure what the heck, may as well declare war on all of them if they are all going to declare war on us one at a time anyway.
No one contacted any of us to see why freddts attacked your member, before launching a huge attack on several of our members and I don't see any reason for him to have to ask you for permission to retaliate for the theft. We are not sparta, we do not follow your protocols. If you had contacted us, we would have been able to provide the evidence then that you now seek. The mere fact that your guys are demanding to see the evidence is proof that no one ever even tried to verify anything before planning and launching a revenge attack, or we would have been able to provide screenshots of the reports. Is that your idea of good protocol? Our first notice of a problem was when almost 30 attacks started showing up on our members. Freddts was so upset when he saw that 2 of his villages had been taken, he did not ask for permission to attack, he just attacked. Had he asked, we probably would have joined in, because I'm sure you know how valuable those extra villages are by now and your boy needed to understand that.
The funny thing is that I don't think freddts was even targeted in your first revenge attack and he was the one that did the attacking to begin with. After your first attacks and losses, people just kept on attacking and attacking, and the more they lost, the more other divisions declared war on us and joined in the attacks.
Your message was received loud and clear. We are sparta. We can do whatever we like and if you don't like it, tough. That even includes taking irreplaceable villages. Well here is my reply. No! X(
You should care who attacked first, because that is the only reason to justify attacks, unless you condone going around attacking and stealing from anyone and everyone. You are welcome to play however you like, as are we, but please stop trying to convince me and everyone else that sparta is something that sparta is not. I'm not sure of your protocols, but if one is to verify a reason for attacks before declaring war on an alliance and launching a mass attack on all of them, then no one followed protocol.
You're speaking pretty hypothetically. You speak as though WE attacked first, yet you have NO proof STILL. Perhaps if Freddts had bothered to calm down and contact ACE HUNTER or I, we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place? That's IF he even was attacked to begin with.
Besides, we never said you couldn't attack us, all we are trying to say, is that you can attack us, but every action has it's consequences.
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 2:10 a.m.
Would you have allowed attacks? Because attacks is what he was going to get, whether we told you or not. We still aren't finished with him. He will get his.
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Luke Fierysword [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 2:11 a.m.
Would you have allowed attacks? Because attacks is what he was going to get, whether we told you or not. We still aren't finished with him. He will get his.
Yep, do your members need resources to get some of those flames off first?
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vaderader [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 2:13 a.m.
wow dillioncail thats lots of writing im surprised you wasted your time for a worthless nothing allaince like the 400 range
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 3:14 a.m.
Luke Fierysword wrote: »Yep, do your members need resources to get some of those flames off first?
If you are trying to make an official negotiation to end this war, I wish you would be more clear, or is this just you being sarcastic?
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sniper685 [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 4:54 a.m.
If you want to keep your extra villages in ice kingdom, you will have to leave sparta. If you are in sparta, you are our enemy and target. Sparta is playing their way and forcing us to play ours. The choice is yours.
Hey BigQd
Why do you insist on provoking us to attack you by posting all your crap on here everyday? Why did you and Freddts try to launch a village war the same day DC told you we wouldn’t take any villages from you guys? And I personally wrote everyone of you guys in game and told you that!! Is this post a mocking to that? Because it sure seems like it to me. By the way you guys are doing great at that I see Freddts now has 9 in ICE and 0 in Sand, You have 5 in ICE and 0 in Sand. You guys are doing an awesome job.
It seems every time we tell you we will not do something to you trying to be nice, you guys do the complete opposite the same day. Whats wrong with you man where you dropped on your head as a kid?
You will not win this war, no matter how hard you try. And your poor members are suffering because they don’t seem to have the option to open their gates 24-7 like you and Freddts do. And the only reason they are getting attacked is because of YOU.. Man up brother and walk the talk you seem to have because we will not stop....
PS. I stopped by yesterday to get some resources and It looked like you where out.. Can I stop by tomorrow to pick some up, you can just leave the door unlocked like usual.....
Thanks Buddy
Sniper...
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BigQd2 [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 6:16 a.m.
Sniper. Who said anything about keeping villages. It's not how many we have that matters. It's how many extras we have taken from your members. If you guys insist on running us off the game, we will be taking something very valuable with us.
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DillonCail [None]
:: Nov. 6, 2012, 6:21 a.m.
wow dillioncail thats lots of writing im surprised you wasted your time for a worthless nothing allaince like the 400 range
I was hoping I could accomplish something good here, but definitely was not able to.
I shouldn't have posted that message here anyway, it should have been privately in the game.And as for the worth of the 400 range, they have some really awesome members- polite and kind and forgiving... they are not even close to worthless.