Forum: empire-en
Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion
Topic: [283349] Nomads Battle Strategy
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AssassinOfLords (INT1) [INT1]
:: Sept. 12, 2015, 4:14 p.m.
My question is how do you attack get hundreds of nomad tablets?
On Nomads level 50 (maxed level) I use 2 maxed waves
First wave:
Left: Center: Right:
No tools 35 mantlets no tools
52 HCB 154 HCB no troops
Second wave i just fill Left and Center with any troop.
I usually i get 15-19 nomad tablets,
and 11,000 to 13,000 gold.
And 13-18 losses
On Nomads level 50 (maxed level) I use 2 maxed waves
First wave:
Left: Center: Right:
No tools 35 mantlets no tools
52 HCB 154 HCB no troops
Second wave i just fill Left and Center with any troop.
I usually i get 15-19 nomad tablets,
and 11,000 to 13,000 gold.
And 13-18 losses
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Graycat (US1) (Banned) [None]
:: Sept. 12, 2015, 4:40 p.m.
Best way to do it is to use three waves of one spearmen on each flank to use up all the nomads' tools. On the fourth wave there won't be any tools left, so you can use all ranged with mantlets and a 90% ranged commander. You'll lose about 20-40 units and eventually all the tablets will add up and you can get some great equipment.AssassinOfLords (INT1) said:My question is how do you attack get hundreds of nomad tablets?
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AssassinOfLords (INT1) [INT1]
:: Sept. 12, 2015, 4:57 p.m.
how do you get the 90% range armor?
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kajacro (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 12, 2016, 4:48 p.m.
@AssassinOfLords your strategy will be affected by what level you are. If your level is low, getting a commander with 90% ranged may be beyond you at the moment.
What others have advised here is quite right obviously. Follow Graycat's guidelines and try to upgrade your commander in the tehcnicus so that its ranged % is as high as possible. And don't forget that that mantlets you send should match the ranged power of the nomad on each flank, and the centre.
So if the ranged power is 119%, you send 24 wooden mantlets = 120%; if is says 169%, you send 34 =170% and so on.
The mantlets will take out the nomad ranged troops, and your ranged troops will deal with the nomad melee troops.
Hope this helps. :-)
What others have advised here is quite right obviously. Follow Graycat's guidelines and try to upgrade your commander in the tehcnicus so that its ranged % is as high as possible. And don't forget that that mantlets you send should match the ranged power of the nomad on each flank, and the centre.
So if the ranged power is 119%, you send 24 wooden mantlets = 120%; if is says 169%, you send 34 =170% and so on.
The mantlets will take out the nomad ranged troops, and your ranged troops will deal with the nomad melee troops.
Hope this helps. :-)
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bhaai (IN1) [None]
:: Oct. 13, 2016, 3:54 p.m.
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Priapus (GB1) [None]
:: Oct. 14, 2016, 12:24 p.m.
If you have enough mantlets and ladders in wave 1 to overcome the defences. Does that mean that you also need them for waves two, three and four. Are ladders, rams etc. different in this respect to mantlets?
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kajacro (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 14, 2016, 12:49 p.m.
If you can take out all the troops in wave one, using all ranged and correct mantlets, then , no there are no more tools needed in the next wave... in fact you don't even need a next wave. I only put in a second wave under those circumstances if I want more loot.
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: Oct. 14, 2016, 2:15 p.m.
If it helps someone, here is my strategy no matter what level camps are:
- i use this commander for some NPC like nomads, beri, sams, beri invasion.. it took me some time to get, but sooner or later as you grow higher, will find that you need a good ranged commander, with high wall reduction which is very useful for regular players that use wooden tools, and nice melee also for battle inside,
- First i chose the two weaker flanks:
- Then the attack strategy for the first wave taking into account always the ranged defense power that just got to be neutralized, and you sent ranged soldiers..
- then i just fill next waves with soldiers i have melee and ranged for battle inside and for loot... //no need for tools
- and here is the result.. taking in account that i Crossbow of Kingsuard in first wave.. not the strongest i have but enough for this... also i never use waves of tool cleaners cause the loot it is just miserable, and sometimes a lot of trouble just to have +/- the same losses /// and a real wave of tool cleaner is 1 soldier + wooden tools.. not just 1 soldier///
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Revolc (GB1) [None]
:: Oct. 16, 2016, 8:58 a.m.
You don't have to use tools with tool cleaners, just 1 cheap troop. And Nomads above Level 80 have 4 tools per slot, so they don't work on them.TwistedMind (GB1) said:
and here is the result.. taking in account that i Crossbow of Kingsuard in first wave.. not the strongest i have but enough for this... also i never use waves of tool cleaners cause the loot it is just miserable, and sometimes a lot of trouble just to have +/- the same losses /// and a real wave of tool cleaner is 1 soldier + wooden tools.. not just 1 soldier///
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ShadowOfEvil (GB1) [None]
:: Oct. 16, 2016, 9:25 a.m.
Couple of tips:
1) Hit with a high ranged+wall comm (will vary depending on level)
This saves tools and troops which will let you hit more camps
2) If you have a lot of troops and tools, send more then one hit at each camp, as soon as one attack lands skip the cooldown before the second one lands. This lets you do 5-6 hits per 8 minutes instead of 1 hit.
3) Only hit two flanks, this saves tools. Always hit the centre as otherwise losses are very heavy in the courtyard. So hit centre+weakest flank. The weakest flank is the flank with the most ranged troops and the ranged bonus is low enough that you can reduce it to 0 with only wooden mantlets
4)Save your nomad chests until you have maxed out a camp before using it
1) Hit with a high ranged+wall comm (will vary depending on level)
This saves tools and troops which will let you hit more camps
2) If you have a lot of troops and tools, send more then one hit at each camp, as soon as one attack lands skip the cooldown before the second one lands. This lets you do 5-6 hits per 8 minutes instead of 1 hit.
3) Only hit two flanks, this saves tools. Always hit the centre as otherwise losses are very heavy in the courtyard. So hit centre+weakest flank. The weakest flank is the flank with the most ranged troops and the ranged bonus is low enough that you can reduce it to 0 with only wooden mantlets
4)Save your nomad chests until you have maxed out a camp before using it
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RD5 (RO1) [RO1]
:: Oct. 16, 2016, 9:54 a.m.
he said is lvl 50 nomad so it need only 2 cleaning waves --> just 1 cheap soldier every flank and no tools
this work so until lvl 60 nomads if i remember exactly
for nomads 71-80 need 3 cleaning waves
next wave use wall/gate tools + 24 wood mantlets with some exceptions: no ranged defenders-no mantlets, only ranged defenders ... you know
soldiers to use-only ranged
for nomads 81-90 cleaning doesn't work.
report above it show 2 weak flanks to attack, starting from first wave with much more tools - no need 12 ladders , that's a mistake, flank and center need only 5 ladders for that commander, for gate it need more tools than report, see 97% on top but tools only 90% which is another mistake for a experienced legendar
but the way is good, attack center and weak flank, weak in terms of less melee defenders
soldiers to use- first wave only ranged, next waves melee or mixed
about commanders to use: 90 ranged + wall/flank for nonlegend players, 90/90 + wall/gate/cy/flank/ for all others
so prepare to get that kind off comm before reach lvl 70
this work so until lvl 60 nomads if i remember exactly
for nomads 71-80 need 3 cleaning waves
next wave use wall/gate tools + 24 wood mantlets with some exceptions: no ranged defenders-no mantlets, only ranged defenders ... you know
soldiers to use-only ranged
for nomads 81-90 cleaning doesn't work.
report above it show 2 weak flanks to attack, starting from first wave with much more tools - no need 12 ladders , that's a mistake, flank and center need only 5 ladders for that commander, for gate it need more tools than report, see 97% on top but tools only 90% which is another mistake for a experienced legendar
but the way is good, attack center and weak flank, weak in terms of less melee defenders
soldiers to use- first wave only ranged, next waves melee or mixed
about commanders to use: 90 ranged + wall/flank for nonlegend players, 90/90 + wall/gate/cy/flank/ for all others
so prepare to get that kind off comm before reach lvl 70
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Borbonator (GB1) [None]
:: Oct. 18, 2016, 8:07 p.m.
best attack for nomads:
Attacking nomads and samurais
These are best done with an all ranged attack on last wave with tool cleaners on the waves before. This does not affect how much loot you bring back.
Tool cleaners are 1 soldier in each flank/front cheap one easy and quick to repair or any random troop you want to bin, this uses the tools on the wall.
Last attack wave – all ranged attackers, with ladders and mantlets, the TOOLS are IMPORTANT!
And last but REALLY IMPORTANT, make a ranged commander the higher the ranged % the better and if you have the kit with high wall % as well.
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outlaw_always (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 18, 2016, 8:21 p.m.
keep in mind that higher level camps cant use toolburns....