Forum: empire-en
Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion
Topic: [322020] Fire cast vs Loot cast?
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mikesmight123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 24, 2016, 9:40 a.m.
Was just curious on people's opinions on this.
Which do you prefer and why?
Which do you prefer and why?
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Estel (GB1) [None]
:: Oct. 24, 2016, 10:22 a.m.
Depends on what kind of position you are in. If you get an incoming attack which isn't possible to defend I will use fire cast only if you have little resources in that castle. If you use loot cast then you have the ability to save lots of resources which can be used to put out fires but sometimes you may be low on time-skips.mikesmight123 (GB1) said:Was just curious on people's opinions on this.
Which do you prefer and why?
I would personally prefer to have fire cast because there wouldn't be a lot of buildings on fire and resources can be easily looted while time-skips are harder to achieve.
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Graycat (US1) (Banned) [None]
:: Oct. 24, 2016, 1:04 p.m.
Lower levels = loot cast 
Experienced players who are too inactive to defend = fire cast
Experienced players who are too inactive to defend = fire cast
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Wicked [None]
:: Oct. 24, 2016, 1:20 p.m.
I would go for fire castelan instead of loot castelan.
Seeing resources are easy to regain. And seeing you have less fire, you need less resources to fix.
Besides what i do is > use fire castelan and before they hit, place all resources in alliance fund.
So this way they loot no resources and won't make (many) fires. Win-win
Seeing resources are easy to regain. And seeing you have less fire, you need less resources to fix.
Besides what i do is > use fire castelan and before they hit, place all resources in alliance fund.
So this way they loot no resources and won't make (many) fires. Win-win
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 24, 2016, 3:21 p.m.
well its easily possible to have a cast that max's out on both fire and loot equip stats. ofc then you need to choose what type of gems to put on there, however if you incude building, like Fire station, & hideouts. Plus research for you main castle.
There are a good few possibilites for protecting your stuff if this is the way you want to go.
There are a good few possibilites for protecting your stuff if this is the way you want to go.
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ShadowOfEvil (GB1) [None]
:: Oct. 24, 2016, 4:11 p.m.
Honestly I'm prob in the minority when I say that during war, I prefer a loot cast to prevent troops at a safehouse from starving
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UD1 (INT1) [INT1]
:: Oct. 24, 2016, 6:34 p.m.
Why not have 7 fire cast and 2 looter 1 melee 1 range problem solved Use winter castlen when needed also use a mix of heros to lose less loot , makes sleeping easier , ps make sure you set at 30/40/30 Just to burn the first wave of tools .
Tony
Tony
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Taggart (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 25, 2016, 10:11 a.m.
Agreed with Himnextdoor and Wicked.
I myself usually use a fire cast though which is basically the same same as a loot cast; you need less resources to repair buildings.
Or better yet, use a combo of both of them if you have the right stuff.
I myself usually use a fire cast though which is basically the same same as a loot cast; you need less resources to repair buildings.
Or better yet, use a combo of both of them if you have the right stuff.
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mikesmight123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Oct. 25, 2016, 10:18 a.m.
Thanks everyone for the replies.
So the general idea is the fire cast is the better cast.
Perhaps when attacking is balanced once more we will se decline in these type of casts.
So the general idea is the fire cast is the better cast.
Perhaps when attacking is balanced once more we will se decline in these type of casts.
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LegendarySama (ASIA1) (Banned) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2016, 11:18 a.m.
open gates has become a bigger option these days with more and more people getting 6 waves, just put hall on 50% less loot lost and build some tree storehouses during war, i lost like 6k food from a full storage during war to 1200 troops
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UD1 (INT1) [INT1]
:: Oct. 25, 2016, 6:05 p.m.
I know in reality everyone would like to defend, BUT to lose 4/5/6k defence soldiers in one hit , you might ask yourself why bother , also it maybe your friends that take the loss , and they do it willingly , but i do hear shouts of 6 waves super strong Commander why the hell would you want to , all you do is give the enemy sucker and glory.
And if Honor is not part of the game anymore why would you want to defend , you send an attack back to them , and which they more than likely not to defend , the only time Honor becomes relavent is on a Sunday night , when the panic begins.
We have been in war for a long time . it is really like watching ping pong with war now , even on a mass everyone is just chilled out , Our team selecting weak attacks then shaming them when they lose a 6 waves army because of bad set up , or destroying 5 waves attack , but avoiding a 6 wave attack where you know it gonna rip you a new one.
But just on occasions the whole alliance sends to a Big Attack where all only loses a few defenders, sacrifice yes but to see 3000 demon horrors disappear is nice.
But money is to be made by GGE as to win any battle always armour tools has to be used or else you are inviting your enemy to defeat you easy .
There is only one winner on this game
You only fight egos here , it just how much you want to spend on your ego , or just to be hero worshipped by others
And if Honor is not part of the game anymore why would you want to defend , you send an attack back to them , and which they more than likely not to defend , the only time Honor becomes relavent is on a Sunday night , when the panic begins.
We have been in war for a long time . it is really like watching ping pong with war now , even on a mass everyone is just chilled out , Our team selecting weak attacks then shaming them when they lose a 6 waves army because of bad set up , or destroying 5 waves attack , but avoiding a 6 wave attack where you know it gonna rip you a new one.
But just on occasions the whole alliance sends to a Big Attack where all only loses a few defenders, sacrifice yes but to see 3000 demon horrors disappear is nice.
But money is to be made by GGE as to win any battle always armour tools has to be used or else you are inviting your enemy to defeat you easy .
There is only one winner on this game
You only fight egos here , it just how much you want to spend on your ego , or just to be hero worshipped by others
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Xeckz (Banned) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2016, 7:45 p.m.
In my own opinion I would use a fire cast due to it being efficient more than anything but a bit of both in one cast I would say is the ideal cast although I would not have these set offline of course. It really depends on the attacker and the context etc, if you know that the attacker is going to buy another army straight after, then not much point in defending imo.
However if the attacker is not a high roller and you know that if you don't wipe out this army then it is a high possibility that one or two of your offline or less advanced team mates will recieve the same army on their doorstep 30 mins later so in that case I would defend the attack while the cards are in your hands but this is just my opinion as fire casts never usually solve a lot in the long run since there are consequences, everyone's opinions will vary as people will have different experiences
Xeckz
However if the attacker is not a high roller and you know that if you don't wipe out this army then it is a high possibility that one or two of your offline or less advanced team mates will recieve the same army on their doorstep 30 mins later so in that case I would defend the attack while the cards are in your hands but this is just my opinion as fire casts never usually solve a lot in the long run since there are consequences, everyone's opinions will vary as people will have different experiences
Xeckz
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Streidominating (INT1) [INT1]
:: Oct. 26, 2016, 8:06 a.m.
Although, i dont know why i get 50%-100% fires when i use a 100% + fire cast....
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 29, 2016, 11:03 a.m.
Why do you have to choose?mikesmight123 (GB1) said:Was just curious on people's opinions on this.
Which do you prefer and why?
http://prntscr.com/d0elop
You can have both maxes out with a fire station, decent gems, and the right pieces + a loot hero. You can even add detect in there.
That's my main castle's cast, btw. I never get hit. I don't care to defend. If you hit me I will offend.
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fujiwara (GB1) [GB1]
:: Nov. 11, 2016, 9:16 a.m.
What Steve and Phil said. I stuck level 2 fire stations in so I can put together 70% loot (120 with leg skills that aren't negated by the offensive equivalent) and about 103% fire resistance.
http://prntscr.com/d5v0lb
If you have to choose between them, you need to do some more looting :P
http://prntscr.com/d5v0lb
If you have to choose between them, you need to do some more looting :P
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benjames (AU1) [AU1]
:: Nov. 11, 2016, 10:03 a.m.
Yeah, not hard to get both, 70% res and 102% fire i got, never used it though...
http://prntscr.com/d5vhsy
http://prntscr.com/d5vhsy
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LegendarySama (ASIA1) (Banned) [None]
:: Nov. 11, 2016, 4:41 p.m.
It was easier to get a kala cast then those loot/fire ones lol