Forum: empire-en
Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion
Topic: [74936] Attacking
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legoeeyore [None]
:: June 13, 2012, 3:55 p.m.
Here is a little something I learned from attacking..
NOTE: I have not included if they are good against attacking units in defense, I will do that late.
1. Always use attacking soldiers, defense soldiers have bad attack power and you never know when a suprise attack may come to your castle so you want your defense soldiers in your castle, not attacking.
2. Heavy Crossbowmen are good against Halberdiers.
3. Two handed swords are good against everything but not Halberdiers and lots of Spearmen.
4. Macemen are good against Bowmen.
5. Crossbowmen are good against Spearmen.
Siege tools are very helpful when attacking, they can sometimes turn the tables in a battle.
Ruby siege tools are better than normal siege tools.
If you are attacking someone in a strong alliance, beware of retaliation from the alliance.
If you do get attacked and won't be able to win, move your troops to your outpost (unless that is under attack too.)
ALWAYS SPY. Spying will save your army one day! If you don't you have a tavern or any spies avaliable, look at their castle. Are all the buildings on fire? thats means they have been attacked and lost and is sometimes a sign of inactivity, if you want to risk it you can attack them, but even if they dont have any remaining troops, they will still have armed citizens which can inflict mild casualties.
So let's start out with a basic attack:
LEFT FLANK: 1 STONE THROWING, 8 SPEARMEN
FRONT FLANK: 2 STONE THROWING, 10 SPEARMEN, 5 ARMED CITIZENS
RIGHT FLANK: 1 STONE THROWING, 8 SPEARMEN
Woah! It sounds scary, but it is actually easier than you think. let's start with the left flank.
To get past the wall defense given by the stone throwing, you should use siege tools. For one stone throwing, I reccommend using 3 scaling ladders. Now for the spearmen. Spearmen are good against melee attackers. Let's look at the "what's good against what" chart i put at the beginning. it says crossbowmen are good against spearmen. I would send around 10 crossbowmen against them, but if you're feeling dardevilish you cans end 8 or 9 crossbowmen.
Now it's time for the front flank. As I said for the left flank, 3 scaling ladders are good against 1 stone throwing. We have 2 stone throwing, so we should use 6 scaling ladders. Now that's sorted you should focus on the spearmen. We have 10 spearmen, so we should ideally use 12 crossbowmen but then again, if you like you can send less. Armed citizens are very weak, you can send any unit against them, even defense units. however, for 5 armed citizens, your crossbowmen will deal with them fine, but if you want to play safe, you can send 1 armed citizen. DO NOT underestimate however......
For the right flank, you can use what I did for the left flank.
That's it for now, but if YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK or are unhappy with some of these attack information, please reply
see you later and i will update soon for capturing uncaptured outposts.
NOTE: I have not included if they are good against attacking units in defense, I will do that late.
1. Always use attacking soldiers, defense soldiers have bad attack power and you never know when a suprise attack may come to your castle so you want your defense soldiers in your castle, not attacking.
2. Heavy Crossbowmen are good against Halberdiers.
3. Two handed swords are good against everything but not Halberdiers and lots of Spearmen.
4. Macemen are good against Bowmen.
5. Crossbowmen are good against Spearmen.
Siege tools are very helpful when attacking, they can sometimes turn the tables in a battle.
Ruby siege tools are better than normal siege tools.
If you are attacking someone in a strong alliance, beware of retaliation from the alliance.
If you do get attacked and won't be able to win, move your troops to your outpost (unless that is under attack too.)
ALWAYS SPY. Spying will save your army one day! If you don't you have a tavern or any spies avaliable, look at their castle. Are all the buildings on fire? thats means they have been attacked and lost and is sometimes a sign of inactivity, if you want to risk it you can attack them, but even if they dont have any remaining troops, they will still have armed citizens which can inflict mild casualties.
So let's start out with a basic attack:
LEFT FLANK: 1 STONE THROWING, 8 SPEARMEN
FRONT FLANK: 2 STONE THROWING, 10 SPEARMEN, 5 ARMED CITIZENS
RIGHT FLANK: 1 STONE THROWING, 8 SPEARMEN
Woah! It sounds scary, but it is actually easier than you think. let's start with the left flank.
To get past the wall defense given by the stone throwing, you should use siege tools. For one stone throwing, I reccommend using 3 scaling ladders. Now for the spearmen. Spearmen are good against melee attackers. Let's look at the "what's good against what" chart i put at the beginning. it says crossbowmen are good against spearmen. I would send around 10 crossbowmen against them, but if you're feeling dardevilish you cans end 8 or 9 crossbowmen.
Now it's time for the front flank. As I said for the left flank, 3 scaling ladders are good against 1 stone throwing. We have 2 stone throwing, so we should use 6 scaling ladders. Now that's sorted you should focus on the spearmen. We have 10 spearmen, so we should ideally use 12 crossbowmen but then again, if you like you can send less. Armed citizens are very weak, you can send any unit against them, even defense units. however, for 5 armed citizens, your crossbowmen will deal with them fine, but if you want to play safe, you can send 1 armed citizen. DO NOT underestimate however......
For the right flank, you can use what I did for the left flank.
That's it for now, but if YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK or are unhappy with some of these attack information, please reply
see you later and i will update soon for capturing uncaptured outposts.
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Darkbyte [None]
:: June 13, 2012, 5:06 p.m.
Joking aside a lot of people use defensive soldiers for attack. But I believe that these basic rules are the best for rookies who just started playing the game. Might I suggest removing the heavy crossbowmen and all other advanced attackers and defenders except the basic ones. The reason is that if you already have advenced soldiers than you already know how to use them.
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UltimateJhon [None]
:: June 13, 2012, 5:10 p.m.
if you attack whith defeander's it is just going to waste your hard earned defeance you only attack whith spears bow's...if you want to scare your eneimie's and make them beg you to stop
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xrunepandax [None]
:: June 13, 2012, 10:33 p.m.
It depends...if all your enemies soldiers are macemen (i highly doubt that), then might be safe to say to so raagee mode with spearmen. Might lose a few spearmen buy ohwell
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doglider [None]
:: June 14, 2012, 6:24 p.m.
There's an easier way to find this out than to experiment with attackers. Go to recruitment and click on the I in the upper right corner. This gives you attack strength, def against melee and def against range.
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Epicperson89102 [None]
:: June 15, 2012, 2:31 p.m.
Actually, what I do is only use Spearmen and Bowmen. They are the two cheapest soldiers I have unlocked, and so I recruit a lot of only those, and send like 30 of them into battle. It really works very well, since none of them die but all the other people's troops die! If this does not happen, I am sorry for you. It works for me.
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doglider [None]
:: June 16, 2012, 3:45 a.m.
Strange, cause those are DEFENSE units. The battles must be pretty small.
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12kroko [None]
:: June 16, 2012, 3:50 a.m.
To sum everything up dont be stupid and attack with deffenders they are called that for a reason this thread needs to be closed
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Zombie Pete [None]
:: June 19, 2012, 1:34 a.m.
if you are attacking in waves, one spearman a piece on each flank is a cheap way to use up an enemy defense item.
attack in tandem with one player using a few cheap spearmen to use up extra defenses timed to hit right before the main wave.
Spearmen have their uses in attack. "here, go catch that rock..."
attack in tandem with one player using a few cheap spearmen to use up extra defenses timed to hit right before the main wave.
Spearmen have their uses in attack. "here, go catch that rock..."
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Alcraigh [None]
:: June 19, 2012, 8:47 a.m.
Zombie Pete wrote: »if you are attacking in waves, one spearman a piece on each flank is a cheap way to use up an enemy defense item.
attack in tandem with one player using a few cheap spearmen to use up extra defenses timed to hit right before the main wave.
Spearmen have their uses in attack. "here, go catch that rock..."
They do, until the castle your attacking has a stockpile of 10 rocks per stack (ie. 30 rocks per wall section, 90 rocks per castle), so that's when well used ladders (or siege towers) and then mantlets (or iron mantlets) are far more efficient.
Martyr/sacrificial spearmen work well against robber barons if you don't want to fill all your waves with attackers. It's a bit silly to be given 3 waves, for example against a castle but waste the first wave with just 1 spearman per wall section to ruin a few rocks.
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captainjack [None]
:: June 21, 2012, 9:27 a.m.
attacking with defense solders is the most idiotic comment ever heard..
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Top dawg [None]
:: June 23, 2012, 5:09 p.m.
i can think of one use for defenders in attacks and thats taking over outposts first waves for kickin arse next waves full of defenders to hold it down for the next 24 hours
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DClucas [None]
:: June 23, 2012, 6:17 p.m.
the best way to attack a castle (whether player or robber baron or outpost) is use your attack soldiers- the most powerful you've got unlocked if possible. Only use defence soldiers as a last resort; e.g: when you are out of coins and those are the only ones you can afford.
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asc4155 [None]
:: June 25, 2012, 5:02 a.m.
UltimateJhon wrote: »if you attack whith defeander's it is just going to waste your hard earned defeance you only attack whith spears bow's...if you want to scare your eneimie's and make them beg you to stop
I send 2 waves i of attackers and then of all the soldiers left. this way i get many resources as the first wave kills them all and the second picks them all.
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Lanendir [None]
:: June 26, 2012, 6:09 p.m.
To sum everything up dont be stupid and attack with deffenders they are called that for a reason this thread needs to be closed
Hahaha, pretty much...common sense dictates you would attack with attack units a defend with defense units right? Or am I missing something. Like kroko said, please close.
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Jane1232 [None]
:: Aug. 27, 2012, 11:46 p.m.
Is a halbedier better than two spearmen?
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LOL LOL2 [None]
:: Aug. 27, 2012, 11:50 p.m.
yes it ia jane
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Aaa343 [None]
:: Aug. 28, 2012, 12:53 a.m.
halberdier is better than 4 spearmen
longbowman better than 4 bowman
attackers are better than 3
longbowman better than 4 bowman
attackers are better than 3
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legoeeyore [None]
:: Oct. 14, 2012, 2:58 p.m.
First, sorry for bumping mods.
Secondly, I ould like to say I went into ruins and I am back to level 7 soI won't be able to add information for level 3 barracks soldiers and above for a time.
regards
legoeeyore
Secondly, I ould like to say I went into ruins and I am back to level 7 soI won't be able to add information for level 3 barracks soldiers and above for a time.
regards
legoeeyore
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yagizzorhan [None]
:: Oct. 19, 2012, 8:03 p.m.
noooo... i never knew. so, attack with attacking soldiers you say. defending soldiers are bad at attacking, really? wow, that is the most helpful tip i have ever seen.