Forum: empire-en
Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion
Topic: [77346] Need Help with Defence
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Renegademx [None]
:: Sept. 21, 2012, 12:51 p.m.
Im still noob at this game only been playing for 2weeks anyway how much Defense should i have with the attack units(ratio wise)? cause my 200 defence army got destroyed by 100 of them travelling knights 
, I also have max towers for my level and i do use the defence tools, so what should i do to defend myself well?
, I also have max towers for my level and i do use the defence tools, so what should i do to defend myself well? [1392699]
famous nadin [None]
:: Sept. 21, 2012, 2:09 p.m.
no strategy against the knights you wont belive im a lvl 35 i had 345 troops a player sent 290 something with knights and mac pluse crossbow men the knights have lot of attack power your ratio on the walls keep the ranged (logic wise)
and melee in the courtyard because the courtyard is a plain surface and the towers and the walls are just a block they get shot by the ranged ,the ranged will be better because they will be able to defeat the melee and ranged both (again logic wise) your ranged will get a bonous on the walls and tower
i hope you want to guess what i did my alliance attacked that player that he burnt till days he lost all his knight hmmm i guess you should increase your honor and apply for a good alliance and remeber the knights are very tough even if you had 300 troops the 100 knights were enogh,thanks to lourenz to help me in the fight
and melee in the courtyard because the courtyard is a plain surface and the towers and the walls are just a block they get shot by the ranged ,the ranged will be better because they will be able to defeat the melee and ranged both (again logic wise) your ranged will get a bonous on the walls and tower
i hope you want to guess what i did my alliance attacked that player that he burnt till days he lost all his knight hmmm i guess you should increase your honor and apply for a good alliance and remeber the knights are very tough even if you had 300 troops the 100 knights were enogh,thanks to lourenz to help me in the fight
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B.Stinson [None]
:: Sept. 22, 2012, 8:33 p.m.
Oh, you little Italian rascal.
Logically Swordsmen and Macemen would likely be better then Two-handed Swordsmen in attacking range units as they have shields to block the cross-bolts yet they aren't. In a logical world we would be following China example of actually using our prisoners by adapting to the world in having them work 12 hours a day for virtual money (exchanging that for real world money) in popular MMOs such as World of Warcraft. Instead we just give them free showers, free food and a bed. Also, hoarding the majority of money for 1% of the population while the rest just rot doesn't seem that logical to me.
There isn't any set ratio or rules to follow. It depends on what level you are, your neighbors, if your Alliance is at war with someone, how much honor you have etc. A lot of variables are involved. Best bet is just to have a mixture of Halberdiers & Long-bowmen consisting about few hundred quantity wise.
Logically Swordsmen and Macemen would likely be better then Two-handed Swordsmen in attacking range units as they have shields to block the cross-bolts yet they aren't. In a logical world we would be following China example of actually using our prisoners by adapting to the world in having them work 12 hours a day for virtual money (exchanging that for real world money) in popular MMOs such as World of Warcraft. Instead we just give them free showers, free food and a bed. Also, hoarding the majority of money for 1% of the population while the rest just rot doesn't seem that logical to me.
There isn't any set ratio or rules to follow. It depends on what level you are, your neighbors, if your Alliance is at war with someone, how much honor you have etc. A lot of variables are involved. Best bet is just to have a mixture of Halberdiers & Long-bowmen consisting about few hundred quantity wise.
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GalUser [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 7:47 p.m.
hello mate
how do i open gate ?
i heard that is the way to prevent damage wiil been attack?!
how do i open gate ?
i heard that is the way to prevent damage wiil been attack?!
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B.Stinson [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2012, 10:24 a.m.
hello mate
how do i open gate ?
i heard that is the way to prevent damage wiil been attack?!
Just go to the Hunting lodge or The King's Market then go to the second page of the Other section and you'll see the option to purchase Open Gate.
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Zach83 [None]
:: Oct. 2, 2012, 4:24 p.m.
when you buy the open gate with rubies in the kings market, can you open it whenever you want or just once?
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lordsaruman (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 2, 2012, 4:39 p.m.
You can open it at anytime whenever you feel you need to do so. None of your men will die, none of your buildings will be destroyed, and you will only lose resources.
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Oct. 2, 2012, 7:38 p.m.
lordsaruman wrote: »none of your buildings will be destroyed
To avoid confusion, buildings can't be destroyed in a normal attack. They can only be set on fire, which lowers their use (e.g. farm makes 5 food instead of 10 or dwelling has 9 population instead of 15) until the fire is put out.
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famous nadin [None]
:: Oct. 6, 2012, 3:01 a.m.
Oh, you little Italian rascal.
Logically Swordsmen and Macemen would likely be better then Two-handed Swordsmen in attacking range units as they have shields to block the cross-bolts yet they aren't. In a logical world we would be following China example of actually using our prisoners by adapting to the world in having them work 12 hours a day for virtual money (exchanging that for real world money) in popular MMOs such as World of Warcraft. Instead we just give them free showers, free food and a bed. Also, hoarding the majority of money for 1% of the population while the rest just rot doesn't seem that logical to me.
There isn't any set ratio or rules to follow. It depends on what level you are, your neighbors, if your Alliance is at war with someone, how much honor you have etc. A lot of variables are involved. Best bet is just to have a mixture of Halberdiers & Long-bowmen consisting about few hundred quantity wise.
calling me a rascle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Helmler [None]
:: Oct. 6, 2012, 2:14 p.m.
famous nadin wrote: »no strategy against the knights you wont belive im a lvl 35 i had 345 troops a player sent 290 something with knights and mac pluse crossbow men the knights have lot of attack power your ratio on the walls keep the ranged (logic wise)
and melee in the courtyard because the courtyard is a plain surface and the towers and the walls are just a block they get shot by the ranged ,the ranged will be better because they will be able to defeat the melee and ranged both (again logic wise) your ranged will get a bonous on the walls and tower
i hope you want to guess what i did my alliance attacked that player that he burnt till days he lost all his knight hmmm i guess you should increase your honor and apply for a good alliance and remeber the knights are very tough even if you had 300 troops the 100 knights were enogh,thanks to lourenz to help me in the fight
Wow, that has to be the worst advice I've seen...the only difference between ranged and melee defense is their stats, melee defenders are better against melee attackers and ranged against ranged. There is no bonus for ranged defenders from being posted on walls instead of in the keep, the same for melee in the keep, so I have no idea what you are talking about there.
It's perfectly possible to defend against 100 knights with 200 defenders from lv26+ (when you get lv5 barracks, I think). In fact, with a good defensive set-up you should be able to defeat them with 100 troops or even less. Even at lower levels you might be able to defend anyway, so long as you have enough of the correct defenders with the right set-up.
I won't go into further detail because if you search around the forum you will find a number of posts on defending which should help you.
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Unknown
:: Oct. 7, 2012, 12:43 p.m.
Now, ill give you a defense set up from level 26, level 5 barracks.
First, what I usually do, is call these guys units. 1 unit, is 430 soldiers. Sounds a lot, but not really. Im going to give you 2 units. YOU ARE GOING TO NEED FOOD OUTPOSTS FOR THIS. Here is 1 unit
50 spearmen
50 bowmen
80 archers
125 Halberdies
125 longbowmen
Plus defensive tools
40 stone throwing
50 flaming arrows
30 castle gate reinforcements
So thats 860 troopers, and 240 defensive tools. But we still have one thing to do. Don't do 33/33/33 for a defensive plan. Do it like this
50/0/50. So that the enemy will have a harder time getting a 30% bonus.
If you have veterans, and you want to keep the food cost the same, then simply add another 25 veterans.
First, what I usually do, is call these guys units. 1 unit, is 430 soldiers. Sounds a lot, but not really. Im going to give you 2 units. YOU ARE GOING TO NEED FOOD OUTPOSTS FOR THIS. Here is 1 unit
50 spearmen
50 bowmen
80 archers
125 Halberdies
125 longbowmen
Plus defensive tools
40 stone throwing
50 flaming arrows
30 castle gate reinforcements
So thats 860 troopers, and 240 defensive tools. But we still have one thing to do. Don't do 33/33/33 for a defensive plan. Do it like this
50/0/50. So that the enemy will have a harder time getting a 30% bonus.
If you have veterans, and you want to keep the food cost the same, then simply add another 25 veterans.
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Shalmaneser [None]
:: Oct. 9, 2012, 2:49 a.m.
It would be fun to have a feature which auto-moved defensive units to a location under attack. Granted, transit times would have to be less than warning lead times. Would let one sleep better.
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joe96 [None]
:: Oct. 9, 2012, 5:05 a.m.
i just use 0-65-35 or 35-65-0, mainly works for rubie players, works if you normal player and normal tool person attacking you but it all counts on what soldiers and tools you both using.
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Drake87 [None]
:: Oct. 12, 2012, 8:30 p.m.
there seems to bea lot of misimformation on here, so let me give you all a brief rundown on defense.
as far as soldiers wise goes you wanna do a 60/40 (60% defense,40% offense) split toward the beginning, especially if in an alliance that cant/wont support all attacks.
if you are offline, set up 50% ranged, 50% melee, and set wall defenses to 50-0-50 this is the hardest to attack against, aside from what im about to explain.
Now, if you are online and see an attack coming in, thats when your defenses can be maximized for an incoming attack. remember that melee defenders are strong against melee attackers, and ranged defenders are strong against ranged attackers, so if an attack is coming in, set the % on your wall to match the incoming attackers disposition, and set the melee/ ranged attackers to match. ill give an example:
Player x is attacking you, he has his attackers set up with 25 2h sword on the left flank, center has 25 2h sword, and 50 longbow, and the right flank has 25 longbowmen (oversimplified for the example) you will set up the following
main slider will be 25-50-25
left flank set 100% melee center set 50% melee 50% ranged, right flank set 100% ranged
make sure you have tools on your walls at all times, as many as possible as one tool works for one wave only
question?
as far as soldiers wise goes you wanna do a 60/40 (60% defense,40% offense) split toward the beginning, especially if in an alliance that cant/wont support all attacks.
if you are offline, set up 50% ranged, 50% melee, and set wall defenses to 50-0-50 this is the hardest to attack against, aside from what im about to explain.
Now, if you are online and see an attack coming in, thats when your defenses can be maximized for an incoming attack. remember that melee defenders are strong against melee attackers, and ranged defenders are strong against ranged attackers, so if an attack is coming in, set the % on your wall to match the incoming attackers disposition, and set the melee/ ranged attackers to match. ill give an example:
Player x is attacking you, he has his attackers set up with 25 2h sword on the left flank, center has 25 2h sword, and 50 longbow, and the right flank has 25 longbowmen (oversimplified for the example) you will set up the following
main slider will be 25-50-25
left flank set 100% melee center set 50% melee 50% ranged, right flank set 100% ranged
make sure you have tools on your walls at all times, as many as possible as one tool works for one wave only
question?