Forum: empire-en
Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion
Topic: [77511] Improving PO and getting rich.
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LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 24, 2012, 4:28 p.m.
I don't know if this has been posted before, but I will start a new thread about it. During my relatively short time in fire peaks, roughly 2 days, I decided to attack one of those cultists tower. I was shocked to learn that I won 12K in coins for 5 minutes work. Now, considering it is hard work to get 2k of coins in 10 minutes via dwellings, wouldn't it be easier to send 9 simultaneous attacks to robber barons? Assuming every single one of your attacks wins, then in 10-20 minutes, it is very possible that you could have 108K coins in your account. Some of us have to wait more than 10 hours to touch 108K, and yet here we are, attacking cultists towers for 12K a piece. If you decide to do that 3 times per day then, you are talking over 324K in coins which is brilliant going.
So, should this be the case where all of the above is true then, it is very possible to demolish all dwelling in all kingdoms to try and maximize the PO, thus maximizing output of food, stone and wood. This will also help with recruitment too. What do you think guys? As for the newbie players, I used to be like you guys until last week when I thought that robber barons are terrible, when in reality, they really are like little goldmines. What would you prefer to do, Get 6 coins in 10 minutes, or 60 coins in 10 minute, the difference is enormous.
So, should this be the case where all of the above is true then, it is very possible to demolish all dwelling in all kingdoms to try and maximize the PO, thus maximizing output of food, stone and wood. This will also help with recruitment too. What do you think guys? As for the newbie players, I used to be like you guys until last week when I thought that robber barons are terrible, when in reality, they really are like little goldmines. What would you prefer to do, Get 6 coins in 10 minutes, or 60 coins in 10 minute, the difference is enormous.
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EmmieB [None]
:: Sept. 24, 2012, 4:37 p.m.
WOW!!!!!!!! is that your castle????
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LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 24, 2012, 4:39 p.m.
WOW!!!!!!!! is that your castle????
It was, until I knocked down a large number of dwellings. It is not the best castle in the world, but it will do me...lol!!
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zodiac (AU1) [AU1]
:: Sept. 24, 2012, 11:54 p.m.
hello legdendaryKing, how do u do that? Which building to demolish? how much resources do u gain by doing so? Same as original resources used? thanks a lot for ur answer.
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MikeWarrior5 [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 4:10 a.m.
I like what your saying but im still learning the lingo. . . so HuH? i like this game and my wife now mocks and makes fun of me when she catches me playing, if you find the time would you mind breaking it down for me. i have many questions. such as how do you choose your enemies? and well if you respond i guess i can ask more
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 4:17 a.m.
MikeWarrior5 wrote: »I like what your saying but im still learning the lingo. . . so HuH? i like this game and my wife now mocks and makes fun of me when she catches me playing, if you find the time would you mind breaking it down for me. i have many questions. such as how do you choose your enemies? and well if you respond i guess i can ask more
You choose enemies just well, searching for them I guess, around the map, in the rankings etc, you attack them depending of the tools you have and the amount and type of soldiers you have, and of course your level and his level, also alliances are Important, you're not going to attack a level 40 if you are a level 10 for example, attack and choose who you attack depends of your strategy, your level, your army, etc.
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B.Stinson [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 4:29 a.m.
MikeWarrior5 wrote: »I like what your saying but im still learning the lingo. . . so HuH? i like this game and my wife now mocks and makes fun of me when she catches me playing, if you find the time would you mind breaking it down for me. i have many questions. such as how do you choose your enemies? and well if you respond i guess i can ask more
Can you blame her?
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BobFighter834 (INT2) [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 7:10 a.m.
Can you blame her?
Yes: this game is legend...wait for it...dary. :P
Zodiac9 wrote:hello legdendaryKing, how do u do that? Which building to demolish? how much resources do u gain by doing so? Same as original resources used? thanks a lot for ur answer.
READ the post before replying.
Obviously, when you demolish a building, you get less resources back than you paid originally. This concept is used in every game, ever, to make people think before they click and make sure that there is a cost for destroying something.
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[Deleted User] [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 7:14 a.m.
LOL funny anyway im saving up my rubies so i can make my own alliance
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LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 11:18 a.m.
Further to his thread, I would just like to add my findings about certain decorative items such as Festival squares or jousting lists. Just for information, this survey was done on my own outpost 8 food and 2 wood. I have 8 farmhouses which all produce 100% of the time. Now, here are my findings, I decided to take out all of my 9 jousting lists and these are the results:
Note: This is based on a level 6 farmhouse by the way, and not a level 10, even though it doesn't change things that much.
Now, these are the stats that I find interesting after I put in the jousting lists one by one.
1st List = +8.2
2nd list = +23.2
3rd list = +8.1
4th list = +5.9
5th list = +5
6th list = +4.4
7th list = +3.9
8th list = +3.6
9th list = +3.3
All those totals at the end are in fact the number of food you gain per hour extra per joustng list. So, my question is, is it really worth the rubies when in reality jousting lists and other luxury items add very little at the end of the day.
Note: This is based on a level 6 farmhouse by the way, and not a level 10, even though it doesn't change things that much.
0 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |93% Food p/h| 52 1 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |107% Food p/h|60.2 2 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |149% Food p/h|83.4 3 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |163% Food p/h|91.5 4 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |174% Food p/h|97.4 5 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |183% Food p/h|102.4 6 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |191% Food p/h|106.8 7 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |198% Food p/h|110.7 8 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |204% Food p/h|114.3 9 Jousting list Basic |56 Occu% |100% PO |210 Food p/h|117.6
Now, these are the stats that I find interesting after I put in the jousting lists one by one.
1st List = +8.2
2nd list = +23.2
3rd list = +8.1
4th list = +5.9
5th list = +5
6th list = +4.4
7th list = +3.9
8th list = +3.6
9th list = +3.3
All those totals at the end are in fact the number of food you gain per hour extra per joustng list. So, my question is, is it really worth the rubies when in reality jousting lists and other luxury items add very little at the end of the day.
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Bertstare.jpg [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 3:05 p.m.
Damn thanks for listing out those stats with the jousting lists. Making me reconsider outfitting my OPs with ruby decorations. Cant justify that much cash for that little improvement
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Bertstare.jpg [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 3:07 p.m.
Did you check how recruitment speed was affected also?
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LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 3:10 p.m.
Bertstare.jpg wrote: »Damn thanks for listing out those stats with the jousting lists. Making me reconsider outfitting my OPs with ruby decorations. Cant justify that much cash for that little improvement
1st List = +8.2
2nd list = +23.2
3rd list = +8.1
4th list = +5.9
5th list = +5
6th list = +4.4
7th list = +3.9
8th list = +3.6
9th list = +3.3
As you can see, there is an improvement of 15 food per hour after you have added a 2nd jousting list then, from there on in, you lose on each jousting list. I was thinking of adding more jousting lists to my outpost as I have loads of space but having looked at the statistics, I don't fancy my chances of getting much for for just over 3,500 rubies each time. Ok, fair enough, I did take for example a level 6 farmhouse, but even if it had been a level 10 going at 88 basic, I don't think a jousting list or 4 would have made a great deal of difference.
Edit:
Did you check how recruitment speed was affected also?
I will be checking this too once I get back home tonight.
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LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 25, 2012, 8:16 p.m.
Bertstare.jpg wrote: »Did you check how recruitment speed was affected also?
Here are the recruitment stats in percentages and not times with regards to jousting lists:
0 Jousting List =114% 1 Jousting List =127% 2 Jousting List =161% 3 Jousting List =173% 4 Jousting List =182% 5 Jousting List =189% 6 Jousting List =196% 7 Jousting List =202% 8 Jousting List =207% 9 Jousting List =212%
So, you see when you add your second jousting list, it jumps by34%, and then when you add your 3rd, the increase goes down by 12%, which by the 4th jousting list, goes down by 9%.
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 8:26 a.m.
LegendaryKing64 wrote: »I don't know if this has been posted before, but I will start a new thread about it. During my relatively short time in fire peaks, roughly 2 days, I decided to attack one of those cultists tower. I was shocked to learn that I won 12K in coins for 5 minutes work. Now, considering it is hard work to get 2k of coins in 10 minutes via dwellings, wouldn't it be easier to send 9 simultaneous attacks to robber barons? Assuming every single one of your attacks wins, then in 10-20 minutes, it is very possible that you could have 108K coins in your account. Some of us have to wait more than 10 hours to touch 108K, and yet here we are, attacking cultists towers for 12K a piece. If you decide to do that 3 times per day then, you are talking over 324K in coins which is brilliant going.
So, should this be the case where all of the above is true then, it is very possible to demolish all dwelling in all kingdoms to try and maximize the PO, thus maximizing output of food, stone and wood. This will also help with recruitment too. What do you think guys? As for the newbie players, I used to be like you guys until last week when I thought that robber barons are terrible, when in reality, they really are like little goldmines. What would you prefer to do, Get 6 coins in 10 minutes, or 60 coins in 10 minute, the difference is enormous.
The cultist towers and the high level RBC's are probably the 95% of my income, I do what you said, and it works for me
I have terrible low population but I get coins in no time because of the coins I earn! [1394660]
LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 4:15 p.m.
xJadetsssx wrote: »The cultist towers and the high level RBC's are probably the 95% of my income, I do what you said, and it works for me
To be honest Jade, it is much better to build as many houses as the quests suggests i.e. in ice land, it suggests 5 so, ideally I would build 5. In my main and 3 outposts I have too many houses and I thought it was a great idea. From only having 2,000 coins in my account only 1 month ago, I have roughly 1.4 million, which is more than enough to send troops through to other kingdoms for support.
As for the robber barons and cultists in fire peaks, you have probably read my thoughts about that. I used to think that they were useless, but in reality they are not as useless as we think. When you are a newbie, I think you start off with 6 coins per 10 minutes, which is terrible, but we don't know that much anyway. However, it is possible to simply attack the robber barons with 4 soldiers (and not 4 ladders ...;)) and get roughly 60 coins. Do that 3 times in 10 minutes and that is two days of coin collecting already.
I attacked a cultist tower for the first time on Monday, and I was pleasantly surprised to find that the prize is 12,000 coins. Since nearly all those who have an available 9 commanders, sending out 9 silmultaneous attacks to cultists towers, and you can guarantee that in 20-30 minutes you will have gained 108,000 coins. So, moral of the story is this, build as many houses as the quests suggests then, knock them down when you have entered other kingdoms because there is money to be had there.
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k3rb3r05 [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 8:05 p.m.
I love my rbc. all 150 of them. They helped me level unbelievably fast. So fast that a few times I had to slow down in order not to get too phat. So fast, that i still have unfinished xp quests in green.
As far as the po goes, you are forgeting one important factor. That the higher your po, the more farmhouses you can build and thus have an increased overal output.
As far as the po goes, you are forgeting one important factor. That the higher your po, the more farmhouses you can build and thus have an increased overal output.
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xJadetsssx [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 8:07 p.m.
Again, In 3 of my castles I have 0 of population, and in only in my main castle I have 500, and in the other castles I have 200 in each one, since I removed dwellings in mostly of my castles my Public order went up a lot, and well I get a lot of income earning 10'000 coins per RBC attack, or 25'000+ from a cultist tower
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k3rb3r05 [None]
:: Sept. 26, 2012, 9:01 p.m.
my rbc are low level. only give about 1200 a pop
i never had the need to put dwellings in my ops or other worlds and whenever i am done with the quests in green (just because i hate having left-overs) i will be tearing down those dwellings in main
i never had the need to put dwellings in my ops or other worlds and whenever i am done with the quests in green (just because i hate having left-overs) i will be tearing down those dwellings in main
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LegendaryKing64 [None]
:: Sept. 27, 2012, 3:22 p.m.
I love my rbc. all 150 of them. They helped me level unbelievably fast. So fast that a few times I had to slow down in order not to get too phat. So fast, that i still have unfinished xp quests in green.
As far as the po goes, you are forgeting one important factor. That the higher your po, the more farmhouses you can build and thus have an increased overal output.
Hello Kerberos. I am a level 55, and to be honest, I have only recently discovered that hitting robber barons, barbarians and cultist towers are a good source of income. You state that the higher your PO, the more farmhouses you can build, but the flip side of that is this, in an 8 food 2 wood environment, you can have 8 level 10 farms which produce 880 food per hour basic. What you are forgetting is that, if you add a 9th, 10th or even 11th farmhouse, your production for each additional farmhouse will get less and less so, it would be better to use the additional space to build either parks, jousting lists or festival squares. These are probably more productive than additional farmhouses. The aim is to make your castle as productive as possible. With too many houses or too many woodcutters, farms or stone masons, the chances are that the PO will go up only slightly. Use the space, and use it wisely.
xJadetsssx wrote: »Again, In 3 of my castles I have 0 of population, and in only in my main castle I have 500, and in the other castles I have 200 in each one, since I removed dwellings in mostly of my castles my Public order went up a lot, and well I get a lot of income earning 10'000 coins per RBC attack, or 25'000+ from a cultist tower
You must be talking level 50+ cultist towers Jade, since I only got a measily 12,500 for a level 45...;(