Forum: empire-en
Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion
Topic: [82548] Strategy
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Diamondators [None]
:: Dec. 31, 2012, 9:20 p.m.
Why is 50-0-50 a good defense position? Also,are there any other good ones?
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HowardS [None]
:: Dec. 31, 2012, 10:23 p.m.
50-0-50 is good because it allows you a better chance of getting a +30% bonus in the keep. Since the attacker can send little on the flanks compared to the center, the defender has a greater chance of winning on the flanks, and when the battle at the keep occurs(provided that the defender wins on both flanks) then the defender gets a 30% damage.
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AgentY [None]
:: Dec. 31, 2012, 11:08 p.m.
0-0-100 also works because the battle in the keep is equal and you lose less soldiers on that flank. Depends on the amount of soldiers in the keep. Lots of them (couple thousand), go 0-0-100. If you have a bit less (800) go 50-0-50.
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icepika [None]
:: Jan. 1, 2013, 2:51 a.m.
Go for 0-100-0 or 0-80-20 when you are very high lv because you two side only have 260 max defenders. Not very good defense for the mass attack. 0-100-0 is a do or die. If you successfully defense there, you will win for sure because the troops that allow in keep is low. 0-80-20 is good assurance to kill as much troops as possible. The altenative for higher lv is 100-0-0 or 0-0-100 but not very recommended because they are worst than 50-0-50.
By the way, 50-0-50 is the best defense in lower lv because they give you 30% plus which are precise
By the way, 50-0-50 is the best defense in lower lv because they give you 30% plus which are precise
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William89 [None]
:: Jan. 2, 2013, 4:03 p.m.
0-80-20 and 0-100-0 is a very bad defence system to use when your high level. This is because the main flank can be attacked with up to 624 attackers at high levels and with only 260 maximum defenders you have an extremely small chance of success (unless they use defenders to attack you). :-)
Depending on how many defenders you have and the amount of attackers you adversary has, 50-0-50 is good for up 500 attackers (with fully upgraded walls, gate and tools etc.) and 0-0-100 or 100-0-0 is optimum defence set up for anyone higher then level 51. Seeing as a attacker can attack with up to 1040 soldiers at high levels and the main flank is where they can send the most, it is best to leave this flank empty and defend the sides.
Also with 0-0-100 defence, you will win easy as you can have 260 defenders there but attackers can only get 212 attackers in the side flanks.
Remember though in any attack (incoming or on someone), you must use tools to increase your chances of survival: they help alot!
Depending on how many defenders you have and the amount of attackers you adversary has, 50-0-50 is good for up 500 attackers (with fully upgraded walls, gate and tools etc.) and 0-0-100 or 100-0-0 is optimum defence set up for anyone higher then level 51. Seeing as a attacker can attack with up to 1040 soldiers at high levels and the main flank is where they can send the most, it is best to leave this flank empty and defend the sides.
Also with 0-0-100 defence, you will win easy as you can have 260 defenders there but attackers can only get 212 attackers in the side flanks.
Remember though in any attack (incoming or on someone), you must use tools to increase your chances of survival: they help alot!
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RoobinHood77777 [None]
:: Jan. 3, 2013, 3:02 p.m.
When I was under level 30 I used this one: 50-0-50,and it showed quite effective.
And I use it still in some battles,especially when I have less then 100 men.
But when I have more then 200 men and if the enemies army has less then 170 men I use this one: 33-34-33,and its also effective especially for "mid levels(lvl 30-45).
And I use it still in some battles,especially when I have less then 100 men.
But when I have more then 200 men and if the enemies army has less then 170 men I use this one: 33-34-33,and its also effective especially for "mid levels(lvl 30-45).
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icepika [None]
:: Jan. 3, 2013, 3:13 p.m.
i still think 0-80-20 or 0-100-0 is better than 100-0-0.Even though 100-0-0 increase your chance to win but with the huge number in the middle coming to the keep, usually is 700+ if you use 100-0-0, you will have a great chance of losing if your troops are lower than 1500. So I think mine is better since it can't eliminate the possibility that the 700 gets to the keep. I admit that this is quite a gamble since you can easily lose here but most of the time you will win with a lot of very good tools. if you don't have enough good tools or the attackers use too much armorers tools then 100-0-0 is better idea :P
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ameen122 [None]
:: Jan. 3, 2013, 6:40 p.m.
can i ask one question < if i use 50-0-50 i will get 30%bonus at the keep < but i should win in the both flanks ? or i will get the 30% bonus if i win in one flank only
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Raven Fall [None]
:: Jan. 5, 2013, 10:52 p.m.
So 50-0-50 means?
Flanks are defended with 50% ranged, 50% melee, and no one in the middle?
Apologize ahead of time the "doh"
Flanks are defended with 50% ranged, 50% melee, and no one in the middle?
Apologize ahead of time the "doh"
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icepika [None]
:: Jan. 6, 2013, 1:30 a.m.
yes, you could say that .
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AgentY [None]
:: Jan. 8, 2013, 5:45 a.m.
Hold on, did you say that 1500 troops cannot defeat 700 troops!? You can defeat 1200 attackers with 1500 defenders, especially with the 0% bonus! I really dont think 0-80-20 is good because 52 on the flank will lose and the 208 defenders on the front may not win against 600+ troops! You get a -30% on the keep, and you fail with that kind of bonus!i still think 0-80-20 or 0-100-0 is better than 100-0-0.Even though 100-0-0 increase your chance to win but with the huge number in the middle coming to the keep, usually is 700+ if you use 100-0-0, you will have a great chance of losing if your troops are lower than 1500. So I think mine is better since it can't eliminate the possibility that the 700 gets to the keep. I admit that this is quite a gamble since you can easily lose here but most of the time you will win with a lot of very good tools. if you don't have enough good tools or the attackers use too much armorers tools then 100-0-0 is better idea :P
Just dont think that is a good set up. Can you explain how it could work in more detail?
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icepika [None]
:: Jan. 8, 2013, 8:19 a.m.
trust me,it can happen.This kind of defense will make you lose least out of three kinds but I do agree that it will be huge risk to do this kind of set up.0-80-20 is the one that you use if you think that you can win in the middle and the 20 of the flank merely to increase more damage to the enemies. This will let minimal number of troops allow in the keep, where you have not much advantage compare to the wall. This would be a huge risk and require calculation but if you do it correctly, your troops lost should be small. 50-0-50 is not bad( it almost assure you a minimum win in most of the case) but this kind of set up would allow much larger troops in your keep which will make your lost really high(it won't be that ideal if you get two or three attack in roll :P). Moreover, you can't maximize the use of wall. Hope that help