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Board: [590] Ideas, Suggestions & Feedback

Topic: [368979] Legion of the Daimyo Tools

[-368979] dliu3 (US1) [US1] :: Nov. 13, 2019, 9:20 p.m.

I don't see why I can't use the folding ladder and other samurai tools with the Daiymo castles. It's ridiculous!

[5088456] dliu3 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 5, 2019, 3:17 a.m.

@Crom Cruach will I get any feedback or will I be left hanging for a month?

[5088857] Experiment_626 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 8, 2019, 12:33 p.m.

Daiymo Castles aren't Samurai Camps and that is why you can't use Samurai tools on Daiymo Castles. Same goes for Nomads, you can't use Plunder Chests on Nomad camps, only the Khan.

[5088878] dliu3 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 8, 2019, 3:34 p.m.

But we can use rolling shield, tree trunk ladder, and the gate thing on Khan.

[5088891] LegendaryKing73 (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 8, 2019, 4:44 p.m.

dliu3 (US1) said:

But we can use rolling shield, tree trunk ladder, and the gate thing on Khan.

Don't worry about it too much. Just hit the level 4 Daimyos with shields/breaching towers in each wave and you should be good. Further to that, you say that we can "use rolling shields, tree trunk ladders etc", however, when we hit the khan camps, we do get khan tablets and tokens so, that is why. When you hit a Daimyo, you don't receive sams tokens, you recieve those blue sams tokens instead and shogun points. Therefore, the bonus sams tools are totally irrelevant to the Daimyo castle.

[5088920] dliu3 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 8, 2019, 8:05 p.m.

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

dliu3 (US1) said:

But we can use rolling shield, tree trunk ladder, and the gate thing on Khan.

Don't worry about it too much. Just hit the level 4 Daimyos with shields/breaching towers in each wave and you should be good. Further to that, you say that we can "use rolling shields, tree trunk ladders etc", however, when we hit the khan camps, we do get khan tablets and tokens so, that is why. When you hit a Daimyo, you don't receive sams tokens, you recieve those blue sams tokens instead and shogun points. Therefore, the bonus sams tools are totally irrelevant to the Daimyo castle.

I can barely beat a level 2 without significant losses lol.

[5088931] LegendaryKing73 (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 8, 2019, 9:40 p.m.

It is relatively simple to beat a level 4 Daimyo. More often than not, only 1 flank is defended, and the majority of the defenders are melee. It can be 402/198 or 450/150 in favour of the melee troops. Just send ranged troops on the defended flank for 2 waves.

Next, you have to calculate how many defs in the cy are melee/ranged, and you'll again notice that this time, it is in favour of ranged troops. So, the way I do it is this, from the 1st wave onwards:

If there are 1104 melee troops and 1296 ranged troops (there is 2,400 defs in the cy) that means the percentage of melee is 46% compared to 54% ranged. In this case, you need to send 54% melee and 46% ranged on the undefended flanks.

Now, if you have relic comms you need to do it like this basing it on a relic comm with 70/192/70 wave:

1st wave = Def flank = full ranged 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls.
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

2nd wave = Def flank = full ranged 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

3rd wave = Def flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

4th wave = Def flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

I always send tools on all waves on the defended flank only. That way there will be no surprises. You can expect with a reasonable relic comm around 900-1,000 losses.

[5088933] dliu3 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 8, 2019, 10:11 p.m.

Thank you!

[5088949] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: Dec. 9, 2019, 2:25 a.m.

@LegendaryKing73 (GB1) I had a few attackers left over from my main Sami, so I thought I would give your set up a try. I didn't have EXACTLY the troops you suggested, so my numbers are a bit off, and I used the Sand Sorceress Commander, and I used 17 ladders instead of 12 towers. But, I would say your suggestion is 100% Spot On!

Never really paid attention to the Daimyo part before. But, I will be adding it into my future plans...……….

[5088950] dliu3 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 9, 2019, 3:35 a.m.

Problem is I don't buy rubies so losing about 75-80% of my troops is a huge hit for me lol.

[5088974] LegendaryKing73 (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 9, 2019, 10:13 a.m.

No problems @Wasso (INT3) @dliu3 (US1) You don't need rubies to get horrors now. All you do is just take part in the events, earn some silver/gold tokens and you can then get loads of horrors if you so wish.

[5088984] Kyriakos (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 9, 2019, 11:45 a.m.

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

It is relatively simple to beat a level 4 Daimyo. More often than not, only 1 flank is defended, and the majority of the defenders are melee. It can be 402/198 or 450/150 in favour of the melee troops. Just send ranged troops on the defended flank for 2 waves.

Next, you have to calculate how many defs in the cy are melee/ranged, and you'll again notice that this time, it is in favour of ranged troops. So, the way I do it is this, from the 1st wave onwards:

If there are 1104 melee troops and 1296 ranged troops (there is 2,400 defs in the cy) that means the percentage of melee is 46% compared to 54% ranged. In this case, you need to send 54% melee and 46% ranged on the undefended flanks.

Now, if you have relic comms you need to do it like this basing it on a relic comm with 70/192/70 wave:

1st wave = Def flank = full ranged 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls.
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

2nd wave = Def flank = full ranged 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

3rd wave = Def flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

4th wave = Def flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee 12+ Breaching towers, and at least 18 shield walls
For the front, 88 ranged, 104 melee.
Undefended flank = 32 ranged and 38 melee.

I always send tools on all waves on the defended flank only. That way there will be no surprises. You can expect with a reasonable relic comm around 900-1,000 losses.

I autofill with my relic. I get around 600-700 losses with that strategy, and don't have to put any effort into it.

[5088993] LegendaryKing73 (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 9, 2019, 1:31 p.m.

Each to their own @Kyriakos (GB1)

[5230094] DanOShanter (US1) [US1] :: June 9, 2022, 8:49 p.m.

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

dliu3 (US1) said:

But we can use rolling shield, tree trunk ladder, and the gate thing on Khan.

Don't worry about it too much. Just hit the level 4 Daimyos with shields/breaching towers in each wave and you should be good. Further to that, you say that we can "use rolling shields, tree trunk ladders etc", however, when we hit the khan camps, we do get khan tablets and tokens so, that is why. When you hit a Daimyo, you don't receive sams tokens, you recieve those blue sams tokens instead and shogun points. Therefore, the bonus sams tools are totally irrelevant to the Daimyo castle.

That's exactly what bothers me. When we hit Khan camps, we get the special Khan camp medals AND the regular khan tablets; but when we hit the Daimyo, we only get the special Daimyo tokens. Why the differnce?

[5230120] bweukoba (US1) [US1] :: June 10, 2022, 9:30 a.m.

The Samurai medals are broken. Suppose you want to get 1 of the 3500 PO items it costs 100k in Samurai tokens and 50k in Samurai medals, even a Daimyo castle at level 4 you would have to battle it 51 to make it. If you wanted to buy boosters to up your count and get it in 1 shot you would need 1668 of them to get there. At 60 rubies each that is 100080 rubies. If you were to buy them from the sale instead you would have to pay $40 at least to get that many. Either the Daimyo shop Samurai medal cost must come down, each booster needs to provide more of a boost than 3%, or the cost of the boosters needs to decrease. Even for ruby players these costs are prohibitive, it could take literal years to get it. A non-ruby player would never see it

[5230121] bweukoba (US1) [US1] :: June 10, 2022, 9:38 a.m.

It would be best to make the boosters available as an award during the event. If you must add them to the bestseller shop. That or you could make it like Shapeshifters where if it has an easy mode you don't lose troops during attacks or on defense.