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Topic: [379667] I don't get the fun on Pay To Win

[-379667] ShogunWarrior (NL1) [NL1] :: Jan. 22, 2021, 10:36 p.m.

I mean, no hate towards the game but i don't really get the point...the value leaderbords and competitions are kind of pointless when it all depends on who throws the most money to it...i'm a guy from a lil random clan. But man, if you want to get more players you should maby do something about the "pay to win" concept on letterly every competition. Common..it does not take anything to get first at all

game is dieng obviously like this. All you got to do is buy some soldiers...if you really want to just ceep buying food or stuff but you can fight the hole server like this and it gets worst if your lv800 beside throwing money it doesnt take any skill to be first

leaving because it became a pointless game. argue about it what you want, its a fact.

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[5174061] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: Jan. 23, 2021, 12:07 a.m.

I guess he REALLY wanted to get the 310PO Festival Tower..........

[5174071] YourBloodyBase (US1) [US1] :: Jan. 23, 2021, 5:50 a.m.

The prizes or first are usually not worthwhile any way join a decent alliance in the top 20. Do outers and BTH as well as you can. The whole game is a grind either you'll like it or you won't but the top prizes aren't worth the effort anymore anyway.

[5174083] bernhardt (US1) [US1] :: Jan. 23, 2021, 8:42 a.m.

I think a Hall of Fame would probably be worth more to the winners of any event than any game rewards. Just take the winner of each event run and put them in the HOF. Keep them in there for say a year. Then as time goes on you can have a top 50 for number of times an event was won by a player, total events etc which would be kept for until the game gets shut down. Pretty sure more would be willing to go for it than some silly in game prize that will be outdated in short order.....

[5174212] flug (NL1) [NL1] :: Jan. 24, 2021, 2:22 p.m.

ShogunWarrior (NL1) said:

I mean, no hate towards the game but i don't really get the point...the value leaderbords and competitions are kind of pointless when it all depends on who throws the most money to it...i'm a guy from a lil random clan. But man, if you want to get more players you should maby do something about the "pay to win" concept on letterly every competition. Common..it does not take anything to get first at all game is dieng obviously like this. All you got to do is buy some soldiers...if you really want to just ceep buying food or stuff but you can fight the hole server like this and it gets worst if your lv800 beside throwing money it doesnt take any skill to be first leaving because it became a pointless game. argue about it what you want, its a fact.

skills are lost , if you want to achieve something you just have to buy

[5174390] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: Jan. 26, 2021, 1:15 a.m.

flug (NL1) said:
skills are lost , if you want to achieve something you just have to buy

I didn't used to believe this. As a F2P / never buyer, I would use the few tools I was able to get / make very carefully. Epsy every Nomad Camp and set the middle / flank up with just enough to win. THEN, once they maxed out, find the best options on what camp needed the fewest tools and send all hits to those 2. Now? Same set up no matter what. Left side = 20 Tree Trunk Ladders and 20 Rolling Shields. Middle = 15 Tree Trunk Ladders, 15 Fire Carts and 20 Rolling Shields. EVERY OTHER SLOT has full Khan chests. Running just 4 waves, I get about 1,100 tabs per hit. Once they all max out, NO CHANGES NEEDED. Just keep hitting the same set up on every camp.

Needless to say, the interest level has dropped by quite a bit. BORING.

I actually am getting distracted by the World 1 Wasso account. I CAN'T do there what I can do in INT3. My World 1 Wasso is still only level 23.

Perhaps I am the odd-one out AGAIN, but I find it more enjoyable to have to figure out a way to get past the obstacle, than to just do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

WORSE YET, would be to PAY for the "privilege" to do even MORE again and again and again..............

[5174401] bernhardt (US1) [US1] :: Jan. 26, 2021, 8:50 a.m.

@Wasso (INT3) I still do the spy each one bit and use just enough to win for that very reason. I only max out the camps these days plus maybe a few rounds depending on my mood. Like you, I just don't see the point of rinse and repeat over and over again and again. Never going to be top anything worthwhile that way, but I don't burn out.....

[5174512] RobinHudi (NL1) [NL1] :: Jan. 26, 2021, 10:43 p.m.

ShogunWarrior (NL1) said:

I mean, no hate towards the game but i don't really get the point...the value leaderbords and competitions are kind of pointless when it all depends on who throws the most money to it...i'm a guy from a lil random clan. But man, if you want to get more players you should maby do something about the "pay to win" concept on letterly every competition. Common..it does not take anything to get first at all game is dieng obviously like this. All you got to do is buy some soldiers...if you really want to just ceep buying food or stuff but you can fight the hole server like this and it gets worst if your lv800 beside throwing money it doesnt take any skill to be first leaving because it became a pointless game. argue about it what you want, its a fact.

I see ur point but i have to say it's incorrect. GGE used to be pay to win. But now they made it way easier for non donor players to get on the leaderboards. Competing against players who invest their money smart is kinda hard but not impossible. You got multiple features that allow you to beat some donors. Dedication is one of them! Keep going bro. If you are able to get close to a donor you won. Since you did it for free. I spend some money now and then but imagine no donors. GGE wouldn't be able to keep running. I think they have grown so hard in being ''all-player-friendly''. Togheter we make this game even greater!

[5174586] Venom (AU1) [AU1] :: Jan. 27, 2021, 12:38 p.m.

They have made great improvements towards giving free players a good chance.

But sadly they are giving out handy downs. The stuff the ruby players no longer care for. i.e. a level 20 food build item.

Ruby players are currently after construction tokens, sceats and the BTH materials. Non-ruby players are after silver equipment, upgraded PO items and food build items.

[5174705] bernhardt (US1) [US1] :: Jan. 28, 2021, 12:47 a.m.

@Venom (AU1) That about sums it up.

[5175018] flug (NL1) [NL1] :: Jan. 30, 2021, 12:50 p.m.

Wasso (INT3) said:

flug (NL1) said:
skills are lost , if you want to achieve something you just have to buy

I didn't used to believe this. As a F2P / never buyer, I would use the few tools I was able to get / make very carefully. Epsy every Nomad Camp and set the middle / flank up with just enough to win. THEN, once they maxed out, find the best options on what camp needed the fewest tools and send all hits to those 2. Now? Same set up no matter what. Left side = 20 Tree Trunk Ladders and 20 Rolling Shields. Middle = 15 Tree Trunk Ladders, 15 Fire Carts and 20 Rolling Shields. EVERY OTHER SLOT has full Khan chests. Running just 4 waves, I get about 1,100 tabs per hit. Once they all max out, NO CHANGES NEEDED. Just keep hitting the same set up on every camp.

Needless to say, the interest level has dropped by quite a bit. BORING.

I actually am getting distracted by the World 1 Wasso account. I CAN'T do there what I can do in INT3. My World 1 Wasso is still only level 23.

Perhaps I am the odd-one out AGAIN, but I find it more enjoyable to have to figure out a way to get past the obstacle, than to just do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

WORSE YET, would be to PAY for the "privilege" to do even MORE again and again and again..............

u don't use a preset? ;P

[5175020] flug (NL1) [NL1] :: Jan. 30, 2021, 12:55 p.m.

RobinHudi (NL1) said:

ShogunWarrior (NL1) said:

I mean, no hate towards the game but i don't really get the point...the value leaderbords and competitions are kind of pointless when it all depends on who throws the most money to it...i'm a guy from a lil random clan. But man, if you want to get more players you should maby do something about the "pay to win" concept on letterly every competition. Common..it does not take anything to get first at all game is dieng obviously like this. All you got to do is buy some soldiers...if you really want to just ceep buying food or stuff but you can fight the hole server like this and it gets worst if your lv800 beside throwing money it doesnt take any skill to be first leaving because it became a pointless game. argue about it what you want, its a fact.

I see ur point but i have to say it's incorrect. GGE used to be pay to win. But now they made it way easier for non donor players to get on the leaderboards. Competing against players who invest their money smart is kinda hard but not impossible. You got multiple features that allow you to beat some donors. Dedication is one of them! Keep going bro. If you are able to get close to a donor you won. Since you did it for free. I spend some money now and then but imagine no donors. GGE wouldn't be able to keep running. I think they have grown so hard in being ''all-player-friendly''. Togheter we make this game even greater!

used to be play to win???????

[5175080] gazz65 (GB1) [GB1] :: Jan. 30, 2021, 11:45 p.m.

YOU COULD PAY TO LOSE.
OR YOU COULD PAY TO CHEAT .
EITHER WAY GGS WILL NOT MIND WHAT YOU DO.

[5175199] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: Jan. 31, 2021, 11:37 p.m.

flug (NL1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

flug (NL1) said:
skills are lost , if you want to achieve something you just have to buy

I didn't used to believe this. As a F2P / never buyer, I would use the few tools I was able to get / make very carefully. Epsy every Nomad Camp and set the middle / flank up with just enough to win. THEN, once they maxed out, find the best options on what camp needed the fewest tools and send all hits to those 2. Now? Same set up no matter what. Left side = 20 Tree Trunk Ladders and 20 Rolling Shields. Middle = 15 Tree Trunk Ladders, 15 Fire Carts and 20 Rolling Shields. EVERY OTHER SLOT has full Khan chests. Running just 4 waves, I get about 1,100 tabs per hit. Once they all max out, NO CHANGES NEEDED. Just keep hitting the same set up on every camp.

Needless to say, the interest level has dropped by quite a bit. BORING.

I actually am getting distracted by the World 1 Wasso account. I CAN'T do there what I can do in INT3. My World 1 Wasso is still only level 23.

Perhaps I am the odd-one out AGAIN, but I find it more enjoyable to have to figure out a way to get past the obstacle, than to just do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

WORSE YET, would be to PAY for the "privilege" to do even MORE again and again and again..............

u don't use a preset? ;P

Of course I do. But, that doesn't make it any less boring. It just makes the boring easier......