Forum: empire-en
Board: [817] War Updates
Topic: [306718] A letter to the alliances on AU1 from Alchemists.
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 11:28 a.m.
To achieve peace an agreement must be struck. We have offered terms, they have been refused with a counteroffer we have refused. We have asked what is wrong with our terms, and have yet to be told. Yet you accuse us of stalling peace talks. We are open to negotiation about our terms.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:__________________________________________________
Alchemists the definition of PEACE is
1. freedom from disturbance; tranquillity.
2.a state or period in which there is no war or a war has ended.
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Considering Alchemists declared WAR on INVICTUS due to supporting an affilate alliance RA, we consider peace to all 3 affiliates the best solution, however we are not talking for those other alliances.
INVICTUS do not want or need this silly stupid WAR it is a waste of time, resources, coins and rubies.
Alchemists need to come to their senses about what PEACE actually means and discuss more accurate and appropriate terms.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
You guys are not. I specifically asked lalana about negotiating terms. Either she is illiterate, stupid, or just so stubborn that she will only issue one set of terms.
If your side is not willing to compromise or even to tell us what we need to do to compromise aside from the single offer you have given that we have refused, and our side has attempted to compromise.
Who's stalling the peace talks?
Seems to me your alliance is unaware of what is really going on, and is only getting the version that lalana is making up.
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 11:33 a.m.
You do send a minimal amount of troops. You sent pathetic little attacks that could only be defined as toolburning.SwanQueener98 (AU1) said:Just because I don't purchase rubies does NOT mean I am unemployed. It just means I don't want to waste my hard earned money on this game when i could be using to buy much needed things for my usage on my various hobbies.
I struggle with getting 2k troops because I use my coins on the technicus. to work on my commanders and castilians.
which my Alliance leaders and fellow members encourage us all to do to be better players. they have taught me how to attack properly. I just don't feel like doing it on you pack of bullies. Why should I make the effort to build a large army to attack your members who don't care about following rules of engagement at all. we had a 'ceasefire' and yet still benjames, nathon101 and a few others continue to attack myself and my fellow team mates. I am a team player, I contribute more to my alliance by helping to defend, and or send resources even when I myself are in desperate need of them. Because that is the type of person I am.
I used to be friends with Lesky and Rohanadventerer when I was in the first alliance I was in when I started this game. I used to respect your alliance when they were Devil's Alliance. but recent events that have occurred in this ridiculous war have made me realise that it was a waste of my time to even remotely respect the friendship considering your alliance couldn't give a toss about previous and or current friendships.
and for your information a tool rake is an attack using the minimum amount off troops in order to rid you of tools. I two could do those sort of attacks all day. But why bother? It would be a complete waste of my time and coins. And quite frankly your alliance is not worth my efforts.
As Lesky said the cease fire was ended with a message to one of your members. I don't even know who arranged the cease fire, was done while I was in bed, but it doesn't matter anyways.
Technicus is a thief, we can agree on that.
Change it to "get a better job" then. Don't complain to me if you choose to not buy rubies. With 200% primes that appear during good deals, and the average video game costing 60 - 80 dollars I couldn't care less about your complaints about who spends and who doesn't. I bought a 500 dollar Xbox One too, you going to cry about that too?
Edit: Corrected grammar.
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SwanQueener98 (AU1) [None]
:: April 28, 2016, 11:41 a.m.
We are kept well informed of what is going on.
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 11:48 a.m.
Not if you're being told that the agreement includes farming players.SwanQueener98 (AU1) said:We are kept well informed of what is going on.
We're telling you that the information you're being given is wrong. If you want to consider yourself well informed then so be it, but it's obvious to us you are not.
We're well aware that many members of all 3 of your alliances are not interested in this attempted server war against us. We also know you have asked most alliances on the server. If you think fair play rules are going to apply when you are attempting to get help from the entire server then you're completely out of your mind.
edit: corrected typo
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 11:55 a.m.
Perryl
Agreed discussions MUST happen, however PEACE does not involve Alchemists being able to have regular attacks or farming of INVICTUS players.
That is not PEACE.
Many properties on a weekly basis go into ruin for several reasons farm those people, leave the active people to play their GE.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
Agreed discussions MUST happen, however PEACE does not involve Alchemists being able to have regular attacks or farming of INVICTUS players.
That is not PEACE.
Many properties on a weekly basis go into ruin for several reasons farm those people, leave the active people to play their GE.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:03 p.m.
Right, I agree. Those terms would be totally unacceptable.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:Perryl
Agreed discussions MUST happen, however PEACE does not involve Alchemists being able to have regular attacks or farming of INVICTUS players.
That is not PEACE.
Many properties on a weekly basis go into ruin for several reasons farm those people, leave the active people to play their GE.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
That's why we never asked for them.
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:08 p.m.
hi artyrob,artyrob (AU1) said:
also you messaged me, to say lalana had not been contacted.. lesky had only just come online after the server being down and people were not able to log in.. i said to you, if lalana is on, could she message lesky.. which she didnt..instead chose to say i had not followed proper process.,, lalana please remember your member chose to message me. and im the one not following proper process ?
my god your an alliance, you people can talk to each other. instead of hiding behind "proper process"
we had a few discussions that day, however you contacted me first when knowing, (i presume) from the discussions that i had with BJ that morning, regarding peace talks.
your message stated you want to discuss peace talks, ah artyrob i never got the message regarding lalana to contact lesky.
yes i messaged you toward the end of the day, to let you know that Lalana had not heard from Perryl.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:14 p.m.
What terms, i haven't stated any PEACE talk terms, Like what I have always said you need to discuss PEACE terms with Leader.Perryl (AU1) said:Right, I agree. Those terms would be totally unacceptable.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:Perryl
Agreed discussions MUST happen, however PEACE does not involve Alchemists being able to have regular attacks or farming of INVICTUS players.
That is not PEACE.
Many properties on a weekly basis go into ruin for several reasons farm those people, leave the active people to play their GE.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
That's why we never asked for them.
PEACE does not involve attacks or farming of alliance members, that is not PEACE.
Perryl google PEACE then contact our Leadership team.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:15 p.m.
It's customary to contact a diplomat, leader, or deputy to arrange peace.
I was not aware of her wanting contact from me, and when I did find out about it I said she could contact me if she wants peace. I am in a different time zone than most of you so it's usually not until the evening (for you) that I am active. Also, throughout the night, and some of your early morning. (It's funny, I've actually told members when I was going to bed, members of your coalition, and I still don't get incoming overnight. It's so disappointing. I digress though.)
She actually never did. Eventually Lesky contacted her or she contacted him, not sure which, and they had the discussion linked in the 1st Google document on the original post. After reading that document I decided to contact her to further attempt negotiation, even though I preferred for her to contact me. That's when she clarified her terms and refused to negotiate a compromise.
I was not aware of her wanting contact from me, and when I did find out about it I said she could contact me if she wants peace. I am in a different time zone than most of you so it's usually not until the evening (for you) that I am active. Also, throughout the night, and some of your early morning. (It's funny, I've actually told members when I was going to bed, members of your coalition, and I still don't get incoming overnight. It's so disappointing. I digress though.)
She actually never did. Eventually Lesky contacted her or she contacted him, not sure which, and they had the discussion linked in the 1st Google document on the original post. After reading that document I decided to contact her to further attempt negotiation, even though I preferred for her to contact me. That's when she clarified her terms and refused to negotiate a compromise.
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:16 p.m.
PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:Perryl
Agreed discussions MUST happen, however PEACE does not involve Alchemists being able to have regular attacks or farming of INVICTUS players.
That is not PEACE.
Are you confused? Read the first quote. Your comment.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:What terms, i haven't stated any PEACE talk terms, Like what I have always said you need to discuss PEACE terms with Leader.Perryl (AU1) said:Right, I agree. Those terms would be totally unacceptable.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:Perryl
Agreed discussions MUST happen, however PEACE does not involve Alchemists being able to have regular attacks or farming of INVICTUS players.
That is not PEACE.
Many properties on a weekly basis go into ruin for several reasons farm those people, leave the active people to play their GE.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
That's why we never asked for them.
PEACE does not involve attacks or farming of alliance members, that is not PEACE.
Perryl google PEACE then contact our Leadership team.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
We've never asked for farming. To achieve peace we have asked for some arranged attacks.
It's astounding how many of you can't comprehend this simple request. You ran a mass on us. Or, well, lol, tried to anyways.
We haven't retaliated for that, yet, the retaliation will be a mass attack on all members. Or, you could accept a few hits and we would have agreed to peace. This has nothing to do with farming your players. Where do you get regular farming of players from?
We already have that, lol. You guys open gates 80% of the time. If you want free res just hit someone in Invictus. This isn't about farming. This is about you following your own rules, and accepting peace with terms, or, negotiating a compromise on the terms.
If your alliance refuses to negotiate a compromise, only offering one set of terms. They are the ones that are delaying peace talks and putting you all in our crosshairs.
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:21 p.m.
Nope i'm not confused relaying what we all know to hopefully end this silly/stupid WAR that you guys declared.
We could be sending our time, resources, coins, rubies, troopies on better more productive things.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
We could be sending our time, resources, coins, rubies, troopies on better more productive things.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:26 p.m.
I edited my comment and added more, but here's the thing. "What you all know" is that you think we have requested regular attacks and/or any farming of your members to achieve peace. War, would not be ended until after the attacks we requested as terms to arrange peace. After the attacks we would have gone into peacetime, where normal "rules" are supposed to be followed. Not following those rules and demanding we follow them would result in war being declared again. We also have our own set of rules for what we consider "acts of war" and will declare for. Farming, has never been a topic of discussion from our end. I can only assume you say that because you're all farms.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:Nope i'm not confused relaying what we all know to hopefully end this silly/stupid WAR that you guys declared.
We could be sending our time, resources, coins, rubies, tropes on better more productive things.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
I don't really care about player-made "fair-play" rules, mostly because the people who talk about them the most are the ones who only follow them at their own convenience.
That being said, as I posted in a previous thread, we would declare war for many reasons very similar to what people consider fair play.
It's a war game, I don't really care if you treat us unfairly, but your actions will be reciprocated.
As they say. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
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artyrob (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:40 p.m.
you messaged me later in the day.. after we arranged the cease fire.. to say lalana had not been contacted by leadership (you didnt say perry) this is when i replied saying, lesky has just come on, if lalana is on, could she message her.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:hi artyrob,artyrob (AU1) said:
also you messaged me, to say lalana had not been contacted.. lesky had only just come online after the server being down and people were not able to log in.. i said to you, if lalana is on, could she message lesky.. which she didnt..instead chose to say i had not followed proper process.,, lalana please remember your member chose to message me. and im the one not following proper process ?
my god your an alliance, you people can talk to each other. instead of hiding behind "proper process"
we had a few discussions that day, however you contacted me first when knowing, (i presume) from the discussions that i had with BJ that morning, regarding peace talks.
your message stated you want to discuss peace talks, ah artyrob i never got the message regarding lalana to contact lesky.
yes i messaged you toward the end of the day, to let you know that Lalana had not heard from Perryl.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
im not surprised you "didnt get that message" just like lalana never got the message lesky messaged meehere.
clear communication issues in this alliance
try talking to each other..you might teach each other a few things
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:46 p.m.
hi artyrob,artyrob (AU1) said:you messaged me later in the day.. after we arranged the cease fire.. to say lalana had not been contacted by leadership (you didnt say perry) this is when i replied saying, lesky has just come on, if lalana is on, could she message her.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:hi artyrob,artyrob (AU1) said:
also you messaged me, to say lalana had not been contacted.. lesky had only just come online after the server being down and people were not able to log in.. i said to you, if lalana is on, could she message lesky.. which she didnt..instead chose to say i had not followed proper process.,, lalana please remember your member chose to message me. and im the one not following proper process ?
my god your an alliance, you people can talk to each other. instead of hiding behind "proper process"
we had a few discussions that day, however you contacted me first when knowing, (i presume) from the discussions that i had with BJ that morning, regarding peace talks.
your message stated you want to discuss peace talks, ah artyrob i never got the message regarding lalana to contact lesky.
yes i messaged you toward the end of the day, to let you know that Lalana had not heard from Perryl.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
im not surprised you "didnt get that message" just like lalana never got the message lesky messaged meehere.
clear communication issues in this alliance
try talking to each other..you might teach each other a few things
yes that right we did discuss after you arranged a ceasefire to say that our Leadership team had not heard from you guys.
our alliance always talk in chat, so communication is clear and we all know the story regarding this silly/stupid WAR, even though it is a WAR game the reasoning of this WAR is ridiculous.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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benjames (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:54 p.m.
Nix, the reasoning of this war is not ridiculous.... its simple.... this war is based on the 'unfair' actions of INVICTUS..
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 12:57 p.m.
Perry,Perryl (AU1) said:I edited my comment and added more, but here's the thing. "What you all know" is that you think we have requested regular attacks and/or any farming of your members to achieve peace. War, would not be ended until after the attacks we requested as terms to arrange peace. After the attacks we would have gone into peacetime, where normal "rules" are supposed to be followed. Not following those rules and demanding we follow them would result in war being declared again. We also have our own set of rules for what we consider "acts of war" and will declare for. Farming, has never been a topic of discussion from our end. I can only assume you say that because you're all farms.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:Nope i'm not confused relaying what we all know to hopefully end this silly/stupid WAR that you guys declared.
We could be sending our time, resources, coins, rubies, tropes on better more productive things.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
I don't really care about player-made "fair-play" rules, mostly because the people who talk about them the most are the ones who only follow them at their own convenience.
That being said, as I posted in a previous thread, we would declare war for many reasons very similar to what people consider fair play.
It's a war game, I don't really care if you treat us unfairly, but your actions will be reciprocated.
As they say. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
I understand the basic physics of action/reaction.
Why do you need to have ' War, would not be ended until after the attacks we requested as terms to arrange peace'
I don't see how more arranged attacks on us is PEACE.
The reason you called this WAR was to do with LAWLESS and RA and the few INVICTUS that supported RA that's called WARsupport of an affiliate they were in that alliance fighting, nothing wrong with that and they were probably fighting with the game rules. So why not actually declared WAR with them.
True we are all just one big happy farm family occasionally fighting amongst ourselves.
Please come to you senses soon, understand what PEACE means and discuss proper terms with Leadership team.
Cheers every1 have a great day/night
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 1:02 p.m.
hi BJ, what 'unfair' actions, we already message that INVICTUS have not done anything toward Alchemists.benjames (AU1) said:Nix, the reasoning of this war is not ridiculous.... its simple.... this war is based on the 'unfair' actions of INVICTUS..
Why did you and bobbingo mass attack me the other day. The 3 of us have worked together in a previous alliance that's betrayal, disrespectful, disloyal and rude.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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benjames (AU1) [AU1]
:: April 28, 2016, 1:20 p.m.
INVICTUS have not done anything toward alchemists..... wrong....PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:hi BJ, what 'unfair' actions, we already message that INVICTUS have not done anything toward Alchemists.benjames (AU1) said:Nix, the reasoning of this war is not ridiculous.... its simple.... this war is based on the 'unfair' actions of INVICTUS..
Why did you and bobbingo mass attack me the other day. The 3 of us have worked together in a previous alliance that's betrayal, disrespectful, disloyal and rude.
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
Aubyone was in RA at the time where somone from alch hit him... so he quickly went back to INVICTUS to make the attack bounce.....(NAA at the time)
Just because we were in the same alliance previously... of which you ditched.... does not mean that I can't hit you... we are in different alliances now... get over it......
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: April 28, 2016, 1:27 p.m.
To achieve peace an agreement must be made. Sometimes demands are made that people do not agree with. We have specifically asked lalana to tell us exactly what she disagreed with. She refused. If that was the term she disagreed with she should have said so and tried to work out another arrangement.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:
Why do you need to have ' War, would not be ended until after the attacks we requested as terms to arrange peace'
I don't see how more arranged attacks on us is PEACE.
Clearly, you do not understand how war works. Tribute, is built right into the game, but we don't want your ally funds.
The reason there was something wrong with that is directly related to your alliance's view on our altercation with FMJ.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:
The reason you called this WAR was to do with LAWLESS and RA and the few INVICTUS that supported RA that's called WARsupport of an affiliate they were in that alliance fighting, nothing wrong with that and they were probably fighting with the game rules. So why not actually declared WAR with them.
We've explained our reason for declaring.
Your leadership team refuses to negotiate. There is no further discussion to be had until they are willing to negotiate.PowerfullyNix (AU1) said:Please come to you senses soon, understand what PEACE means and discuss proper terms with Leadership team.
Cheers every1 have a great day/night
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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BedeGiles (AU1) [None]
:: April 28, 2016, 1:29 p.m.
Entertaining to say the least
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
Hey Nix, you can put that ^ bit in your signature, saves typing it every msg
xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
Hey Nix, you can put that ^ bit in your signature, saves typing it every msg