Graylen (AU1) said:

Well I have had a nice 20 mins reading all the conversations here. 

I really only have one question:

Alchs clearly in control of the negotiations as far as strength - so why would you (being the other 2 alliances) continue to provoke them. 

You are outclassed and out-gunned. Be grateful for whatever terms you can negotiate. 

These "conditions" about "farming" et al, are - to say the least - naive. 

G

Graylen (AU1) said:

Well I have had a nice 20 mins reading all the conversations here. 

I really only have one question:

Alchs clearly in control of the negotiations as far as strength - so why would you (being the other 2 alliances) continue to provoke them. 

You are outclassed and out-gunned. Be grateful for whatever terms you can negotiate. 

These "conditions" about "farming" et al, are - to say the least - naive. 

G

imspecial456 (AU1) said:

well i dont like war in au- its scary

i love it in asia, its great to burn the burning and get away with it
btw- did any of you read @llKaNaKall (AU1) sig 
its funny as- anyway i used to be next to him and we fought a bit, but then i moved my castle away

JJJJJJSK (AU1) said:

imspecial456 (AU1) said:

well i dont like war in au- its scary

i love it in asia, its great to burn the burning and get away with it
btw- did any of you read @llKaNaKall (AU1) sig 
its funny as- anyway i used to be next to him and we fought a bit, but then i moved my castle away

War is good, gives you somethign to do with those nice gems you got and all the freebie comms and castas they give you.  Fire rule gets abused massivly atm.  Was UT's, now UT's pretty much gone to TB.  Now TB's leaving fires on their towers after takign a hit where they removed all troops and expecting fire protection. 

Like your defender numbers havent changed.... wtf you leaving fires up for. 

Rules there for those that use them in good faith.  So many abuse them then cry victim.  I'm a cvnt and ill get attacked constantly but I never cried so much or pointed the finger when I was getting burnt 25/8 when I hit lvl70.  People need to get realistic. 

I'm actuially for removign the fire rule TBH, no fkn point having it in its current form.  Just enables people to cry.  As to being burnt out of the game etc.  If it was goign to happen to anyone, people would be tryign to burn me out first, so bring it on. 

JJJJJJSK (AU1) said:

Lesky,

They want to attack me into fires etc, im all for it.  They and all their alliance members will then be open for the same in retaliation. 

I've explained to one individual that any action their alliance does breaking fair play considering they have such good control over their alliance members and they never do [email protected]!@~ without the leaders approval I will consider as being done with that individuals approval and that will indicate to me that the whole alliance is fair game for being hit into fires if one of their members attacks out of fires etc.  Thats my view moving forward. 

I'm more confident in my ability to destroy people than I am scared of their capacity to destroy me.  This bollocks of fires = protection.  Really is getting a bit old when people leave them up and expect you to respect it.  I put mine out as fast as I can most times and ill come back to 10 fires in an OP all from people sabbing me.  Fires dont mean shit lol.  Fire rule is for people that play "honorably".  When you remove all troops and rake as opposed to defending, (IE: you still have all your defenders) then leave the fires up for 3-4 days on towers, you cant tell me that that is in good faith lol, nothing to fkn rebuild and these muppets want fire protection.  It isnt rebuilding its abuse of the fire rule and playign victim when people attack into those fires, gives you something to cry about. 

@jennyj (AU1)

You never got back explaining how you fed a guy on -10k an hour with all those demons either, he still has find better equip flag up BTW, remember with all those OP's producing excess food constantly ??  Got me stumped still...

lawl....


JJ

perryl (US1) said:

So, we've caught wind of the message floating around about our alliance. This message claims we are trying to bully alliances into accepting a specific set of rules, and further alleges I was burned out of USA. Which is quite funny, truly. The mass message being sent around about us is full of errors. This will hopefully clear some of that up.

First of all. Lesky is not from USA. Second, I was never burned out of USA. I am very active on both servers, a member of Fluffy Unicorns on USA. Feel free to check for yourself. I haven't been burned in a very, very long time. Am equally powerful there, in fact. I'm sure some of them will post here to confirm I have not been burned out of the game.

I came to Australia to play with my friend Cappy in TB. It didn't work out, in fact Cappy ended up in Seps. I ended up in Devils. Devils changed to Alchemists when we merged with Metal. No need to go more into detail since it's not relevant to this subject.

There are no plans to change any rules, in fact, it's quite the opposite. We're demanding that players follow the rules they impose on us. Is that now somehow unfair? Please, message me or post below and explain to me how. People seem to only follow these rules when it suits them, that's our problem, but somehow we're the bad guys? Just because we have big armies and can tool properly? Sorry, but not sorry.

I have provided two conversations in Google Docs for all to view. The first one is between lalana and Lesky, the second between NoblemanRoss and myself.

Our terms for peace with Invictus did not include permission to farm their players, as you will see in the doc, and our position was even clarified for her. They were not expected to even let us win the attacks. Quite the opposite. We're already allowed to farm their players, the issue is that all they do is let us farm them. They have been raking tools, sending shadow attacks on RVs and our RT. Breaking nearly every rule they impose on us, and they still won't mind their own business.

We have massed them. Immortals got the mass meant for Invictus(make sure you thank them) and knocked down all the def on their Metro. Smart players will probably post below and explain why we took 60k defense off of a Metropolis, seeing as you seem unable to figure it out for yourself.

On USA RV caps are allowed. If I was trying to bring US rules here, don't you think I would have started stripping players? I have thousands of macemen at any given time. This would have been easy, but not going to touch a RV until you guys cap one I can prove you capped.

Doc 1
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mI1RtiLDySeL8VUI2GxTfcMVfpzQBPYRojnVsEAgTaM/edit?usp=sharing

Doc 2
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1subDrY7nhI4CdKQT9s7tghbjw0nKUIg4m7YnZDsufzU/edit?usp=sharing

You can ask the players if they really said the things we have copied into the docs. If they say no, please let me know. I can only give my own promise that the one I made is 100% accurate, and the one Lesky made is very similar to the convo I had with Lalana after reading his doc.

The only ones bullying are the alliances that are banding together to try and force us to accept peace with multiple alliances that don't follow the fair-play rules they impose on others. Again, I think it's important to note that our terms to both alliances have been "mind your own business" and that the terms for Immortals ended there. Although, now, we would probably add that they need to follow their own rules. Since I'm pretty sure they're against toolburning on paper.

They erroneously believe that we are trying to bring different rules to the table, or that we are trying to ignore all rules. As much as I don't agree with player-made rules on either server, I do still enforce them in my alliance. To some extent.

Pretty much the only difference with us is that we don't care about fires for shady. Otherwise, we follow a basic set of rules that everyone claims to.

TannerM. (US1) said:

I've known Perry on USA1 for some time and played alongside him in the same alliance at one point.  Can confirm, he is a huge bully on US1, always enforcing his rules telling me I need to wear make up and dresses to play the game, just like him.