Forum: empire-en

Board: [817] War Updates

Topic: [342431] Why there should be NO Bloodcrow Invasion

[-342431] helms deep 7 (US1) [None] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 6:52 p.m.

I feel that there should be less events. For castle lords who are constantly fighting each other bloodcrow is real pain, it burns up defense troops and offense troops. if you just removed bloodcrow and kept the foreign invasion our lives would be much simpler since bloodcrow and Foreign invasion are basically the same thing just different names/texture.

[4850618] detedudu (INT2) [None] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 8:19 p.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

I feel that there should be less events. For castle lords who are constantly fighting each other bloodcrow is real pain, it burns up defense troops and offense troops. if you just removed bloodcrow and kept the foreign invasion our lives would be much simpler since bloodcrow and Foreign invasion are basically the same thing just different names/texture.

But... well... What about the extra good cash GGS makes from having two identical events?

[4850651] Revolc (US1) [None] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 8:47 p.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

I feel that there should be less events. For castle lords who are constantly fighting each other bloodcrow is real pain, it burns up defense troops and offense troops. if you just removed bloodcrow and kept the foreign invasion our lives would be much simpler since bloodcrow and Foreign invasion are basically the same thing just different names/texture.

Don't hit them then?

[4850691] Temprance [None] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 9:52 p.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

I feel that there should be less events. For castle lords who are constantly fighting each other bloodcrow is real pain, it burns up defense troops and offense troops. 

I agree! These K:D ratios are ridiculously overpowered. I don't know how much longer we can keep up with these losses before our assets become vulnerable to other alliances.

pls fix

Temprance

[4850716] Herveus (AU1) [AU1] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 10:37 p.m.

Temprance said:

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

I feel that there should be less events. For castle lords who are constantly fighting each other bloodcrow is real pain, it burns up defense troops and offense troops. 

I agree! These K:D ratios are ridiculously overpowered. I don't know how much longer we can keep up with these losses before our assets become vulnerable to other alliances.

pls fix

Temprance

glory needs to be turned down and we need to get honor 

[4850717] Dustin-LinkD (DE1) [None] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 10:38 p.m.

Temprance said:

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

I feel that there should be less events. For castle lords who are constantly fighting each other bloodcrow is real pain, it burns up defense troops and offense troops. 

I agree! These K:D ratios are ridiculously overpowered. I don't know how much longer we can keep up with these losses before our assets become vulnerable to other alliances.

pls fix

Temprance

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Oh my gosh. 3 losses? It should have been +3 cause logic :33333




helms deep 7 (US1) said:

I feel that there should be less events. For castle lords who are constantly fighting each other bloodcrow is real pain, it burns up defense troops and offense troops. if you just removed bloodcrow and kept the foreign invasion our lives would be much simpler since bloodcrow and Foreign invasion are basically the same thing just different names/texture.

you know that complaint is kind of irrelevant right?

You gain no disadvantage from Bloodcrow as they are like you said, identical to the Foreign invasion with the exception that people can get different types of Commanders.

Samurais and Nomad are also identical but they have different rewards.
I rather have those variations as they have their uses, 

saying that the bloodcrow is giving someone big off/def losses is kind of pathetic tbh.
Its just like a wise old man once said

GIT GUD :333

[4850726] helms deep 7 (US1) [None] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 10:54 p.m.

but you take twice as many losses cause there are two identical events.

[4850729] Herveus (AU1) [AU1] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 11:02 p.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

but you take twice as many losses cause there are two identical events.

2 times less than 10 is less than 20 , if you loose more than 100 even when you are offline you are simply not good

[4850730] Dustin-LinkD (DE1) [None] :: Oct. 20, 2017, 11:03 p.m.

It all depends on your strategy. i can keep up with 3k sol with about a 100-200 losses  (if im the attacker)
Its nothing big because in the time i loose those 200 soldiers, ive already generated 200 + those i gain from the event/season events etc. 

If im on the the defensive side i usually put up a 50/50 setup with a mixture of wall protection and Ranged combat+% which gives me about 60 losses when im not online to counterattack, if im online, i can get off with  10-40 from 2k soldiers 

Look my alliance is taking it slowly but were still finished with all the rewards and we were 
about 5 people who actively smashed foreign lords.
https://prnt.sc/gzzvif


Its really not that hard and you should easily be able to keep up with all the money you gain from those samurais and co to cover the losses you have during the event.

Also were in an active war with 3 alliances but we still easily manage since its all about strategy.
The Event is at the very least not the thing that makes you loose most of your soldiers

[4850753] helms deep 7 (US1) [None] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 12:10 a.m.

Yes but for high lv player the attacks are stronger which means you may need alliance support which taxes them as well which makes it easier for enemies to hit your alliance. Why do we need to of the same event if it only taxes us more

[4850756] jordons empire (US1) [None] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 12:25 a.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

Yes but for high lv player the attacks are stronger which means you may need alliance support which taxes them as well which makes it easier for enemies to hit your alliance. Why do we need to of the same event if it only taxes us more

Its a war game you're going to lose troops, If you don't like it there is something called "goodgame big farm". Fls and Bcs are both underpowered and i'm sure a lot of players will agree...

[4850758] Shares (AU1) [AU1] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 12:35 a.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

Yes but for high lv player the attacks are stronger which means you may need alliance support which taxes them as well which makes it easier for enemies to hit your alliance. Why do we need to of the same event if it only taxes us more

think about the alternative..instead of crows you'll just get FI again..this game is basically being driven by the event players..if there's no event they will complain/get bored/leave so gge continues to appease them. So id rather have crows and fi than 2 fi's..at least it creates the impression of something different!

[4850759] Dustin-LinkD (DE1) [None] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 12:37 a.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

Yes but for high lv player the attacks are stronger which means you may need alliance support which taxes them as well which makes it easier for enemies to hit your alliance. Why do we need to of the same event if it only taxes us more

after what you are telling me i can only assume that you havent reached lv70 yet?
If you cant defend yourselve against bloodcrows with 2000 soldiers then you should probably check your Defensive strategy cause ,many including me  dont need any help from our allinace against crows since their attack pattern/strategy is really damn bad. What youre speaking of is more a issue for low tier players who are starting to play the game. Heres a example with real players from a fight yesterday :.





This players stats and Commanders were on point but do you know why he lost as bad as he did??
Its because he didnt use the right tools which eventually led to this. if he had used the right tools or charged all 3 sides at once. it would have done more critical damage. 

Its the same with Bloodcrows. if you see the attack, you can counterattack, if you dont know when it happends, make the right setup so your losses are at a minimum.
The npc attackers typically dont use many tools and if they do, just rearrange your tools to counter them. its not a big deal really

[4850766] helms deep 7 (US1) [None] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 1:09 a.m.

Let me guess your a ruby buyer. Well for all of us NON-ruby buyers its harder since we can't just double our troops and heal them. 

[4850770] Dustin-LinkD (DE1) [None] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 1:24 a.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

Let me guess your a ruby buyer. Well for all of us NON-ruby buyers its harder since we can't just double our troops and heal them. 

No im not and i dont need to. 
Im just gonna say it flat out.
There is no real difficulty in defending yourself against Bloodcrows.

Tell me, whats your level? Im curious if youre really expecting anyone to be a ruby player just because they know common strategys


Nvm. I just checked. your at level 68.
You should have enough experience to defend yourself against bloodcrows alone, if not you should consider asking your aliance for strategys and defensive setups as you seem to be a little bit behind at that part. no offense.

[4850772] SteelSlayer (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 1:31 a.m.

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

Let me guess your a ruby buyer. Well for all of us NON-ruby buyers its harder since we can't just double our troops and heal them. 

Speak for yourself. Me and plenty of other non-ruby buyers manage just fine. Takes two days to rebuild if the incoming was a beastly 6 wave and no alliance support, 3 if school and other stuff gets into the way. And I may not be the brightest, but I'm pretty sure most buyers don't waste their rubies on double recruitment and healing...

[4850779] Dustin-LinkD (DE1) [None] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 2:28 a.m.

This is not to be bragging on you but why are you wasting resources on those decorations?
You couldve invested it on important buildings instead. or at the very least gather some important buildings such as the Watchtower or the Imperial hunting lodge. Those buildings are vital.
If you want good decorations, do the samurai event and just keep on buying the decorations for that as it gives you 230 which is more than your under 180 decorations statues + that you gain 350 might points for each decoration which you seem to need as your mightpoints are at 30.000

Remove some guardhouses as 2 should be enough,
Remove the hideout as its completly useless in many regards and just fills space
Remove some dwellings because they just fill too much space and they lower your public order
Level your towers up as high as posible as your tools only buff your soldiers  on the towers.
Optional : Remove some Resource Buildings except for food because you gather resources faster from events anyway.
Replace the decorations with The samurai decorations as those are better in any way
- Build a Imperial hunting lodge as this building can give you +20% Food pr hour
- Optional : Build a Watchtower so you can see a attack early and plan ahead.

This is your choice whether you do it or not but it will help you defend your castle better if you do that, you could also develop a strategy yourself just as long you can get it to work since that formation your currently using is a free to attack spot.

Im still working on my Main Castle and im going to remove all resource buildings as i dont have any need for them anymore with the exception of the food ones.

I have normal stats for people at my level but my food is preatty damn low.
currently i have 2000 soldiers employed on my HQ without being in minus.
Typically im at -3000 with 4k soldiers but i divided them between my Outposts.
My current stats are the following
Production = 270 % (its gonna be around 285-290 when im done)
Food = 5263 (without the imperial on) 
Wood = 2152
Stone = 2095 (gonna turm them both to 0)
Iron = 250 (also gonna make this 0)

The most depending Factor here is just your decorations, if you have bad decorations, your production wont be any good too. soo just make better decorations, get the imperial hunting lodge and you should be doing already a lot better, this is just some advice.
Watch Tower is optional but adviced for proper counterattacking time.

If you do this, it will help you in general.

[4850871] Dustin-LinkD (DE1) [None] :: Oct. 21, 2017, 9:10 a.m.

Heres a report from today :.



Strategy is key, nothing more, nothing less.
These attack arent really difficult to defend against, you just need to know when it comes and you can keep your losses under 10.

[4858197] Peter John (US1) [US1] :: Nov. 3, 2017, 9:39 p.m.

Dustin-LinkD (DE1) said:

It all depends on your strategy. i can keep up with 3k sol with about a 100-200 losses  (if im the attacker)
Its nothing big because in the time i loose those 200 soldiers, ive already generated 200 + those i gain from the event/season events etc. 

If im on the the defensive side i usually put up a 50/50 setup with a mixture of wall protection and Ranged combat+% which gives me about 60 losses when im not online to counterattack, if im online, i can get off with  10-40 from 2k soldiers 

Look my alliance is taking it slowly but were still finished with all the rewards and we were 
about 5 people who actively smashed foreign lords.
https://prnt.sc/gzzvif


Its really not that hard and you should easily be able to keep up with all the money you gain from those samurais and co to cover the losses you have during the event.

Also were in an active war with 3 alliances but we still easily manage since its all about strategy.
The Event is at the very least not the thing that makes you loose most of your soldiers

Talking about strategy, but not giving it. What is your strategy?

Dustin-LinkD (DE1) said:

helms deep 7 (US1) said:

Yes but for high lv player the attacks are stronger which means you may need alliance support which taxes them as well which makes it easier for enemies to hit your alliance. Why do we need to of the same event if it only taxes us more

after what you are telling me i can only assume that you havent reached lv70 yet?
If you cant defend yourselve against bloodcrows with 2000 soldiers then you should probably check your Defensive strategy cause ,many including me  dont need any help from our allinace against crows since their attack pattern/strategy is really damn bad. What youre speaking of is more a issue for low tier players who are starting to play the game. Heres a example with real players from a fight yesterday :.





This players stats and Commanders were on point but do you know why he lost as bad as he did??
Its because he didnt use the right tools which eventually led to this. if he had used the right tools or charged all 3 sides at once. it would have done more critical damage. 

Its the same with Bloodcrows. if you see the attack, you can counterattack, if you dont know when it happends, make the right setup so your losses are at a minimum.
The npc attackers typically dont use many tools and if they do, just rearrange your tools to counter them. its not a big deal really

Still no strategy given.

Dustin-LinkD (DE1) said:

Heres a report from today :.



Strategy is key, nothing more, nothing less.
These attack arent really difficult to defend against, you just need to know when it comes and you can keep your losses under 10.

But where is the strategy tho???

TFW try to sell a BMW and call it Mercedes.

[4858217] Herveus (AU1) [AU1] :: Nov. 3, 2017, 10:06 p.m.

Try learning how to defend , it is very easy and get a good castellan (like samurai for example) the most expensive ruby defense tools obiously and more  than 2.000 defenders and you are gucci