Forum: empire-en
Board: [817] War Updates
Topic: [346353] GB1 Server War
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UltimateJhon (GB1) [None]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 3:59 p.m.
We aren’t fighting at a disadvantage is the dumbest thing I’ve seen you say, ever. 2 vs 6 Batten, yuo’re genuinely that ignorant that you think command centre points dictate the strength of an alliance and mean you need 3x the alliances to war us?Batten (GB1) said:Personally it doesn't bother me Jhon as far as I can see based on experience war is going okay. I just don't agree that on paper you are fighting at a disadvantage, I think you have an advantage which you are struggling to bring to bear which is something different. I'm not ranting those are just observations. And in terms of the actual rankings to my knowledge they are still accurate. Those are facts. If you've played for small alliances as long as I have you are used to fighting at a significant disadvantage, it's what I know. Fighting at an advantage would be a novelty. If command centres mean nothing then why are you holding elements which are of no use let them go or pass them to small alliances for whom they may make a difference and fight without them.UltimateJhon (GB1) said:Oh please, I laughed so hard at this.Batten (GB1) said:Just to provide a bit of context if you look at the Command Points they look like this:
Crimson Guard 9925
Odins Fury 7650
Praetorians 6650
RevX 2876
The rest of alliances essentially have labs and monuments. I think maybe one or two Kings Towers might have changed hands not 100% sure but not much beyond that.
So that's 20451 Command Points on one side and 6650 on the other. 25% versus 75% roughly. With RevX withdrawal having met their obligations to their pacted partners. That reduces it to 17575 v 6650 which is still in terms of command points a significant advantage.
I don't have a massive familiarity with Command Centres but they do confer a might point advantage and would presumably provide the alliance holding multi-capitals and metros with more troops and more food though that seemingly in terms of extra food is marginal from what players on other threads have said. I'm guessing you could also in theory recruit signficantly more troops over time again my understanding here is a bit sketchy though. I understand that Command Centres aren't seen as being as important but my feeling is they would have an impact.
As we've said before in terms of number of level 800 players, rankings and experience CG and OF have an advantage. Given number of players in and out of protection and when you look at Command Points and their impact, particularly in terms of defensive support, I'm not sure there is much of a disparity. They'd really only have issues if they are carrying a lot of inactive accounts which hasn't seemed to be the case. War seems fairly even so far to me. RevX, Wraith and seemingly SnH have withdrawn from the field on one side, Real Steel on the other.
Interesting to see the role Sams and Nomads events play in the war allowing players to restock troops at a significantly higher level than otherwise would be possible. Presumably this was intentional and definitely can lead to very clear momentum swings. The term Sams or Nomad mass with troops stacked using tokens purchased just before the end of the event is clearly an important point each week in war now. The Samass and Nomass are new terms in my vocabulary (yes I know they sound a bit iffy).
Where you are positioned in relation to other players and what your strength / activity relative to those players goes a long way to determining what your experience of the war will be. A lot of close hits and if your in the wrong place pretty miserable. Really a lot of server power is focused in the West and South at present. At least that's my feeling.
You looked through every ranking untill until you could find something that was unfair and decided to make a rant over it. Command centre points mean next to nothing in war, you guys started the war so you should have considered that if it truly bothered you.
I would probably agree Ultra I sent I think 17 hits maybe few more or less on Odins yesterday and received none in return.
Of course I’ve been in small alliances, command centres do next to nothing. If we gave away our command centres we wouldn’t get anything in return, so why do it? Again, that’s the second dumbest thing I’ve seen you say, ever.
If you thoght you were at a disadvantage because of command centres, you shouldn’t have planned to start a war with us.
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-CJ- (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 4:55 p.m.
250 food per castle (I think, I can't quite remember), for a lvl 5 Metro (Again, I think). Quite a massive advantage when you think that most players have 7 castles. Multiply by 7 per player, you get 1,750 food. Multiply by 65, an alliance makes an extra 113,750 food. That's a lot of troops!
If you have multiple Metro's, then there will be more food.
Very important assets, one of the reasons you have not offered them down to others @UltimateJhon (GB1) else if they were worth nothing then why have a need to trade them for something? Your point is invalid. Batten's point still stands.
Balanced out against the disparity in players vs players on either side of the war is another matter, though. In this case, there are several hundred players on one side, and a dozen Metro's on the other side to make up for the food production of those players on the other side. Seems pretty fair.
Besides, as one said, only the best can hold these assets, and if it is in fact the best against those who are under the best, then the best should always win no matter the disparities as they are supposed to be the best! If they can not fight, they are not the best anymore. I would suggest giving up if you're going to moan throughout the war!
Now, let's have some more reps!!!
If you have multiple Metro's, then there will be more food.
Very important assets, one of the reasons you have not offered them down to others @UltimateJhon (GB1) else if they were worth nothing then why have a need to trade them for something? Your point is invalid. Batten's point still stands.
Balanced out against the disparity in players vs players on either side of the war is another matter, though. In this case, there are several hundred players on one side, and a dozen Metro's on the other side to make up for the food production of those players on the other side. Seems pretty fair.
Besides, as one said, only the best can hold these assets, and if it is in fact the best against those who are under the best, then the best should always win no matter the disparities as they are supposed to be the best! If they can not fight, they are not the best anymore. I would suggest giving up if you're going to moan throughout the war!
Now, let's have some more reps!!!
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 5:06 p.m.
ScorpionBK (GB1) said:250 food per castle (I think, I can't quite remember), for a lvl 5 Metro (Again, I think). Quite a massive advantage when you think that most players have 7 castles. Multiply by 7 per player, you get 1,750 food. Multiply by 65, an alliance makes an extra 113,750 food. That's a lot of troops!
If you have multiple Metro's, then there will be more food.
Very important assets, one of the reasons you have not offered them down to others @UltimateJhon (GB1) else if they were worth nothing then why have a need to trade them for something? Your point is invalid. Batten's point still stands.
Balanced out against the disparity in players vs players on either side of the war is another matter, though. In this case, there are several hundred players on one side, and a dozen Metro's on the other side to make up for the food production of those players on the other side. Seems pretty fair.
Besides, as one said, only the best can hold these assets, and if it is in fact the best against those who are under the best, then the best should always win no matter the disparities as they are supposed to be the best! If they can not fight, they are not the best anymore. I would suggest giving up if you're going to moan throughout the war!
Now, let's have some more reps!!!





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-CJ- (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 5:16 p.m.
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Temprance [None]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 5:19 p.m.
The food bonus does not apply to outer castles ice, sand, and fire.ScorpionBK (GB1) said:250 food per castle (I think, I can't quite remember), for a lvl 5 Metro (Again, I think). Quite a massive advantage when you think that most players have 7 castles. Multiply by 7 per player, you get 1,750 food. Multiply by 65, an alliance makes an extra 113,750 food. That's a lot of troops!
Temprance
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-CJ- (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 5:26 p.m.
@Temprance I thought as much!
Let's fix that then.
Four castles in green at 'near maxed' capacity (plus or minus a few if you include COP's or dis-include OP's) each produce an extra 250 food. This amounts to 1k food per 'near maxed' player.
65 players = 65k food. Obviously double this for two Metro's, triple for three.. so on and so forth..
Let's fix that then.
Four castles in green at 'near maxed' capacity (plus or minus a few if you include COP's or dis-include OP's) each produce an extra 250 food. This amounts to 1k food per 'near maxed' player.
65 players = 65k food. Obviously double this for two Metro's, triple for three.. so on and so forth..
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Spirit Bear (AU1) [None]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 5:34 p.m.
this is so much cringe
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Batten (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 6:54 p.m.
I think Command Centre's are an advantage yes and could be the difference in a close conflict otherwise why acquire them. So yes I am probably that ignorant. I've never seen an alliance outside the top twenty other than RevX - who are normally in the top 20 - hold a command centre - kudos to them for that - from memory outside of that golden moment when GGE accidentally revealed them and pretty much every alliance was scrambling over each other to get them, that actually was a game highlight very exciting night lol, fastest some players had moved ever.
That said I can see why some of Odins newer players may feel at a disadvantage. Reading the reports and based on experience I can understand why some of the lower ranked Odins players may be frustrated. It is difficult to understand the support disparity with 50K plus to Angus for example and high levels of support to other leadership figures and no support to newer players who joined from DMH. And you didn't get much support Jhon shouldn't they have done. I gave you 18 mins or so to get to Sugens and Supergreat in fire and even sent feints so you knew I was coming? Alliances should look out for their players like RevX and Wraith did. Have your guys got your back do you think or are you just cannon fodder to allow them to keep their rankings and benefits? Are they fiddling around like Nero whilst you and other players doing the hard yards burn for them? I'm sure DMH would have their guys back and I doubt anyone would stand in the way of that. To be able to support and not do so really is a survival of the fittest mentally and massive difference from CG approach so I guess there really is clear water between the two alliances.
That said I can see why some of Odins newer players may feel at a disadvantage. Reading the reports and based on experience I can understand why some of the lower ranked Odins players may be frustrated. It is difficult to understand the support disparity with 50K plus to Angus for example and high levels of support to other leadership figures and no support to newer players who joined from DMH. And you didn't get much support Jhon shouldn't they have done. I gave you 18 mins or so to get to Sugens and Supergreat in fire and even sent feints so you knew I was coming? Alliances should look out for their players like RevX and Wraith did. Have your guys got your back do you think or are you just cannon fodder to allow them to keep their rankings and benefits? Are they fiddling around like Nero whilst you and other players doing the hard yards burn for them? I'm sure DMH would have their guys back and I doubt anyone would stand in the way of that. To be able to support and not do so really is a survival of the fittest mentally and massive difference from CG approach so I guess there really is clear water between the two alliances.
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UltimateJhon (GB1) [None]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 8:23 p.m.
It’s so fair, 250 players or so more for 250 food per hour more in one kingdom! Yes, I totally agree!ScorpionBK (GB1) said:250 food per castle (I think, I can't quite remember), for a lvl 5 Metro (Again, I think). Quite a massive advantage when you think that most players have 7 castles. Multiply by 7 per player, you get 1,750 food. Multiply by 65, an alliance makes an extra 113,750 food. That's a lot of troops!
If you have multiple Metro's, then there will be more food.
Very important assets, one of the reasons you have not offered them down to others @UltimateJhon (GB1) else if they were worth nothing then why have a need to trade them for something? Your point is invalid. Batten's point still stands.
Balanced out against the disparity in players vs players on either side of the war is another matter, though. In this case, there are several hundred players on one side, and a dozen Metro's on the other side to make up for the food production of those players on the other side. Seems pretty fair.
Besides, as one said, only the best can hold these assets, and if it is in fact the best against those who are under the best, then the best should always win no matter the disparities as they are supposed to be the best! If they can not fight, they are not the best anymore. I would suggest giving up if you're going to moan throughout the war!
Now, let's have some more reps!!!
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-CJ- (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 8:38 p.m.
1k food per hour in one kingdom.
Times that by the amount of Metro's CG/Odin's both have. Seems pretty fair. You're certainly not hard done by in this war, or are you admitting to that?
Secondly, you guys brought some of the extra players on yourself. That is, of course, your own fault!
Bit off more than you can chew.
Repppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppps!
Times that by the amount of Metro's CG/Odin's both have. Seems pretty fair. You're certainly not hard done by in this war, or are you admitting to that?
Secondly, you guys brought some of the extra players on yourself. That is, of course, your own fault!
Bit off more than you can chew.
Repppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppps!
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UltimateJhon (GB1) [None]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 9:55 p.m.
Oh you silly, you get 250 per metro. It’s not fair to have 250 more players for having a bit more food pmsl.ScorpionBK (GB1) said:1k food per hour in one kingdom.
Times that by the amount of Metro's CG/Odin's both have. Seems pretty fair. You're certainly not hard done by in this war, or are you admitting to that?
Secondly, you guys brought some of the extra players on yourself. That is, of course, your own fault!
Bit off more than you can chew.
Repppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppps!
we didn’t bite more of than we could chew as you declared and we are winning, why complain about Reps If you never post any?
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 10:05 p.m.
Biggest multi account John in war little johnUltimateJhon (GB1) said:Oh you silly, you get 250 per metro. It’s not fair to have 250 more players for having a bit more food pmsl.ScorpionBK (GB1) said:1k food per hour in one kingdom.
Times that by the amount of Metro's CG/Odin's both have. Seems pretty fair. You're certainly not hard done by in this war, or are you admitting to that?
Secondly, you guys brought some of the extra players on yourself. That is, of course, your own fault!
Bit off more than you can chew.
Repppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppps!
we didn’t bite more of than we could chew as you declared and we are winning, why complain about Reps If you never post any?
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 10:22 p.m.
lmho getting hit by the muppets.
love it when top cg odins hit u still bunch of flowers
love it when top cg odins hit u still bunch of flowers
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UltimateJhon (GB1) [None]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 10:25 p.m.
You’re calling me a multi pmsl, the amount of times I’ve had to have my account checked by support because of payment issues with their server.... There’s no way I can cheat the game and be as popular with Josie and Craig at GGSgazz65 (GB1) said:Biggest multi account John in war little johnUltimateJhon (GB1) said:Oh you silly, you get 250 per metro. It’s not fair to have 250 more players for having a bit more food pmsl.ScorpionBK (GB1) said:1k food per hour in one kingdom.
Times that by the amount of Metro's CG/Odin's both have. Seems pretty fair. You're certainly not hard done by in this war, or are you admitting to that?
Secondly, you guys brought some of the extra players on yourself. That is, of course, your own fault!
Bit off more than you can chew.
Repppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppps!
we didn’t bite more of than we could chew as you declared and we are winning, why complain about Reps If you never post any?
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 10:36 p.m.
lmho jhno
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 11:09 p.m.
ultra bsk bullies
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 11:21 p.m.
Massed of cg ultra mates lmho
love it
love it
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UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 28, 2018, 11:47 p.m.
Loves it does our Gazz -
Online tool knocking - the classic ‘we are winning tactic ‘
Always going personal - attacks happen. Get over it.
Join in it to fight Rev x - Rev x back out Defiance still in? Go figure
No credibility.
~Ultra
Online tool knocking - the classic ‘we are winning tactic ‘
Always going personal - attacks happen. Get over it.
Join in it to fight Rev x - Rev x back out Defiance still in? Go figure
No credibility.
~Ultra
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Spirit Bear (AU1) [None]
:: Jan. 29, 2018, 12:53 a.m.
this is how I see the war ending
Top 3 Prae TRT RS
CG break apart but still there changing their name Odins fall off the map completely Gondor either split or get ex war members Wraith lose all their allies same as Rev X for pussying out defiance hit top 5 PG hopping high in top 10 (6 or 7th) someone quits and goes tool wiping whose server
Top 3 Prae TRT RS
CG break apart but still there changing their name Odins fall off the map completely Gondor either split or get ex war members Wraith lose all their allies same as Rev X for pussying out defiance hit top 5 PG hopping high in top 10 (6 or 7th) someone quits and goes tool wiping whose server
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UltimateJhon (GB1) [None]
:: Jan. 29, 2018, 1 a.m.
I laughed at this lol, good one.Spirit Bear (AU1) said:this is how I see the war ending
Top 3 Prae TRT RS
CG break apart but still there changing their name Odins fall off the map completely Gondor either split or get ex war members Wraith lose all their allies same as Rev X for pussying out defiance hit top 5 PG hopping high in top 10 (6 or 7th) someone quits and goes tool wiping whose server
heres what’s happened.
Gondor fell off map, Defiance fell off map, PG fell off map, RS surrendered, TRT almost beneath Odins (1m Might or so) CG and Odins lost couple players compared to dozens.