Forum: empire-en
Board: [818] General Discussion
Topic: [287923] why do we have some many that feel they need to bully smaller alliances in the the game.
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Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None]
:: Oct. 23, 2015, 8:04 p.m.
Level 29 can use only 3 waves.........1224 rubies times 3 = 3672 rubies. Which, you're right, is badbobjoerock (US1) said:If your lv29 attack the lv70 on three flanks, that 4 wall slots per flank and 3 wall slots with 2 gate slots. 11 wall slots and 3 gate slots and 3 moat slots. murder holes cost 53 rubies each or arrow slits that cost 74 rubies each, portcullis cost 79 rubies each, fire moat cost 84 rubies 11*74+79*2+3*84 cost 1224 rubies. that 1.2k worth of rubies down the drain for you little attack that only for one wave. if i attack you and you lost 1.2k worth of rubies you would be pissed off at me
"And still over kill for one glory attack" turns into And still over kill for one nuclear attack
BUT:
first off, ALMOST NO ONE DEFENDS THREE FLANKS!!!!
That means only 4 arrow slots. 79x4=316 rubies per wave.
Also, USING FULL ARROW SLOTS?
If a level 70 is that stupid, he deserves to lose them all...
More realistic is full machitolens. 53 rubies each.
That means 212 rubies per wave....
212 rubies per wave...
212... not 1.2k per wave...
No offense, but you're claim is soooo ridiculous, it's laughable.
The only way I'd move from 100-0-0 is if I saw the attack coming in and that wasn't the best option (it usually is), which is why very few people are spending ruby tools for three flanks defending...
So again, they're not wasting 1224 rubies per wave... such BS.
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bobjoerock (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 24, 2015, 2:43 a.m.
Okay In times of war you will go full arrow slits also both you and I dont see the battle report so I would agree but with more like 350 rubies per wave. Mine was an example. Anyways everyone thing I said was true still: don't attack people with auto-war on unless you want to get hit all day everyday.
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Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None]
:: Oct. 24, 2015, 11:39 p.m.
Really?bobjoerock (US1) said:Okay In times of war you will go full arrow slits also both you and I dont see the battle report so I would agree but with more like 350 rubies per wave. Mine was an example. Anyways everyone thing I said was true still: don't attack people with auto-war on unless you want to get hit all day everyday.
Full allow slits during war time?
What kind of idiot...???
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JDBisAWESOME (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 12:24 a.m.
Yes full arrow slits. If you think increasing your wall protection will do you any good when you have a full ruby mantlet attack headed for you, then you know very little about defense.
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Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 1:10 a.m.
No, you don'tJDBisAWESOME (US1) said:Yes full arrow slits. If you think increasing your wall protection will do you any good when you have a full ruby mantlet attack headed for you, then you know very little about defense.
If someones using full ruby mantlets, arrow slits aren't going to help.
70%x4+90% cast= 470% bonus.
470/15=31.
Meaning that while that might work for someone below level 50 or so, it won't work as a defense for a level 70....
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JDBisAWESOME (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 1:17 a.m.
Oh gosh you’re right I have no idea how to defense, here’s some of the reports I saved.
http://prntscr.com/8uzt2s (fifth wave god commander with 88% courtyard bonus)
By your math that is correct, but that also means as a counter THEN you can go to all wall tools. But you never want to have all wall tools as your standard, away from keyboard setup. Then the attacker can just use wall and moat tools and completely thrash you on the way to the courtyard, plus a god commander gets what, -160% wall bonus? so there's that too.
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furture (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 1:22 a.m.
full slits is nice if they dont send to many mantlets. if they send tons of armorer tools though then slits may not be the way to go.
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Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 1:32 a.m.
Exactly.furture (US1) said:full slits is nice if they dont send to many mantlets. if they send tons of armorer tools though then slits may not be the way to go.
and if u use full slits, and don't use full/mostly range, your not seeing a big benefit anyway.
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Wolfman. (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 1:35 a.m.
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JDBisAWESOME (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 1:55 a.m.
Wall protection is the easiest and cheapest stat to reduce. Vet Swordsmen with lime powder bombs is the best defensive tactic, but that's not a viable option to have 24/7 for most players, so the best remaining option is all arrow slits, which at least makes it expensive for the attacker to be spending 30+ mantlets per wave to overcome.
Exactly what level are you and how much defensive experience do you have?
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Phoenix Fire (AU1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:12 a.m.
wow where do you get that idea from Ive been in many big and small alliances and the big ones have never bullied the smaller ones
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bobjoerock (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:15 a.m.
To Petyr you forgot wall and moat also need to be countered. So I have stop full god commo attacks.
To Phoenix Fire, sometimes this happens but not without a reason, in this case, it is because the smaller alliance hit the bigger alliance with the larger alliance had auto-war and was in the server war
To Phoenix Fire, sometimes this happens but not without a reason, in this case, it is because the smaller alliance hit the bigger alliance with the larger alliance had auto-war and was in the server war
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Wolfman. (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:18 a.m.
Unless you got a 90/90 and like a 5:1 advantage I would just firecast a god commbobjoerock (US1) said:To Petyr you forgot wall and moat also need to be countered. So I have stop full god commo attacks.
To Phoenix Fire, sometimes this happens but not without a reason, in this case, it is because the smaller alliance hit the bigger alliance with the larger alliance had auto-war and was in the server war
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bobjoerock (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:20 a.m.
You stop it with enough support and you have decent amount of courtyard gems you can stop them.
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Wolfman. (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:25 a.m.
Thank you for repeating what I just saidbobjoerock (US1) said:You stop it with enough support and you have decent amount of courtyard gems you can stop them.
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bobjoerock (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:28 a.m.
Also where are you in USA1? You joined today or is this account an alt
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Wolfman. (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:31 a.m.
Oh I'm there been playing for a while, was banned from the forum indefinitely and recently found out criminals like me had been given pardons so I came back.bobjoerock (US1) said:Also where are you in USA1? You joined today or is this account an alt
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bobjoerock (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:33 a.m.
K this thread is going off threads
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JDBisAWESOME (US1) [US1]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:33 a.m.
If you look at my report, I stopped a god commander that had 5 waves and 88% courtyard bonus with less than 2000 losses, and my castellan is less than 90/90. It's very possible, you just need to be online to setup your defense to counter the weakest part of the attack.
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bobjoerock (US1) [None]
:: Oct. 25, 2015, 2:35 a.m.
Note the 8K worth of troops and it is 200 losses, I saw pretty good though