Forum: empire-en

Board: [818] General Discussion

Topic: [316362] Kalas Gems !

[-316362] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 15, 2016, 1:54 p.m.

If you as me completed Kalas and are on second run,try to set the gems on to the former castelanian before Kalas event  (forgot her name) and you will have a very sweet complement castelanian,its a very sweet one to hold center because gate and moat goes higher then any ive seen before
feedback on my personal mix woud be nice.....

[4527578] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: Aug. 15, 2016, 3:50 p.m.

if you post stats it would help but I still think kala by itself would be better....

[4528366] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 15, 2016, 5:32 p.m.

i will when i filled up with the 4 gems,yes Kalas complete is nice,but as an second castelanian its a good variable

[4528728] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: Aug. 15, 2016, 6:50 p.m.

TBH.... the spring casta was good as a cheap 90/90 at the techie... beyond that it isnt an ice casta and it certainly isnt a kala casta....

I dont see how these gems will give it any huge bonus, all it does is remove the ability to add CY gems to it.  That in itself is a huge negative. 

[4528951] The Gentleman (INT1) [INT1] :: Aug. 15, 2016, 8:01 p.m.

Rakan is referring to Ice castellan with 2 kala gems. Total 150% gate bonus; additional +15% to wall; +7% each to range/melee. Decent if holding center against weak attack. 

[4530726] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 16, 2016, 3:32 p.m.

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

Rakan is referring to Ice castellan with 2 kala gems. Total 150% gate bonus; additional +15% to wall; +7% each to range/melee. Decent if holding center against weak attack. 

im refering to Forest transmitters secrets castelanian with 4 of kalas gems,i take screen in a few minutes im getting the third gem first,my gate as for now is staggering 238% wall 186

[4530803] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 16, 2016, 4:04 p.m.

No piece is higher then 11 in technicus,if this isnt a good complement you think,try to fit in shields and moat and gate for middle,im not sure it all can fit in,as for now with 3 gems,moat 188%,gate 238%
little bit low on courtyard but isnt that evend out if you can hold off the mass in the middle???
i think this is a very good suplement

[4530861] The Gentleman (INT1) [INT1] :: Aug. 16, 2016, 4:31 p.m.

238% to gate? 

I do not think that is possible. At most you can have +120% from equipment and gems bonus; then +30% from hero.

Total yield for me is 150% gate. 

Perhaps you could elaborate on your point of view, and we can discuss?

Thanks.

[4530927] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 16, 2016, 5:03 p.m.

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

238% to gate? 

I do not think that is possible. At most you can have +120% from equipment and gems bonus; then +30% from hero.

Total yield for me is 150% gate. 

Perhaps you could elaborate on your point of view, and we can discuss?

Thanks.

heh yes its true i have in that castle 238% bonus on gate if you look on top pic its shown,with tools i have actualy 388% gateprotection and thats raw sumary in writing moment

[4530945] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 16, 2016, 5:11 p.m.

the big thing that you do overlook is that 2 of kalas gems ads up 50% to your current gateprotection  
so you need to recalculate again and we discuss

[4531790] The Gentleman (INT1) [INT1] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 7:20 a.m.

Hmm yes, it does look like you have 388 gate.

Is it possible to switch language to English and then screenshot? That way I can understand better.

Thanks. 

[4531840] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 7:49 a.m.

ive got a 90/90 with 120 gate so if I add the kala gems to that it will have 170 gate....

but reality is im still better off with the actual kala casta on the wall to defend with.  Its got moat/wall all those other bonuses that will help a huge amount to winning the wall. 

[4531986] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 9:28 a.m.

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

Hmm yes, it does look like you have 388 gate.

Is it possible to switch language to English and then screenshot? That way I can understand better.

Thanks. 

sorry not possible to change,then server changes too ingame,
but i think this is a winner for holding center even tho 6 waves,because you cant fill up with tools enough to 0 down gate wall and moat  and still use propper amount of blue big shields,
and with the 4th gem its aditional 5% yardbonus and now my aditional Limes or shields arent in this score...
im not saying its better then kalas standard one just perhapps
its a good suplement for thouse that didnt complete kalas

[4532005] tonebanno (GB1) [None] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 9:37 a.m.

Rakan (SKN1) said:

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

Hmm yes, it does look like you have 388 gate.

Is it possible to switch language to English and then screenshot? That way I can understand better.

Thanks. 

sorry not possible to change,then server changes too ingame,
but i think this is a winner for holding center even tho 6 waves,because you cant fill up with tools enough to 0 down gate wall and moat  and still use propper amount of blue big shields,
and with the 4th gem its aditional 5% yardbonus and now my aditional Limes or shields arent in this score...
im not saying its better then kalas standard one just perhapps
its a good suplement for thouse that didnt complete kalas

You don't need any shields in the middle though. A good attacker will tool Wall-Gate-moat every wave.

[4532056] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 10:08 a.m.

tonebanno (GB1) said:

Rakan (SKN1) said:

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

Hmm yes, it does look like you have 388 gate.

Is it possible to switch language to English and then screenshot? That way I can understand better.

Thanks. 

sorry not possible to change,then server changes too ingame,
but i think this is a winner for holding center even tho 6 waves,because you cant fill up with tools enough to 0 down gate wall and moat  and still use propper amount of blue big shields,
and with the 4th gem its aditional 5% yardbonus and now my aditional Limes or shields arent in this score...
im not saying its better then kalas standard one just perhapps
its a good suplement for thouse that didnt complete kalas

You don't need any shields in the middle though. A good attacker will tool Wall-Gate-moat every wave.

are u sure he can zero down all 3 wall-gate-moat with the few slots he can use due to my high gate and it will be even greater all 3 sins its only upped half way, to me it feels like 3 Limes and 1 arrow and 80% closecombat coud stop the moost there maby not the 6th wavers they are propably to massive...
how ever i think its great losses for the attacker and realy think they choose anohter target seeing this

[4532094] Lord Elvin (AU1) [AU1] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 10:28 a.m.

6 waves, God Comm, Demons and Ruby tools, you would be dead, even without the God Comm, and maybe without the all Demon attack, you would be going down

[4532230] tonebanno (GB1) [None] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 11:50 a.m.

tonebanno (GB1) said:

Rakan (SKN1) said:

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

Hmm yes, it does look like you have 388 gate.

Is it possible to switch language to English and then screenshot? That way I can understand better.

Thanks. 

sorry not possible to change,then server changes too ingame,
but i think this is a winner for holding center even tho 6 waves,because you cant fill up with tools enough to 0 down gate wall and moat  and still use propper amount of blue big shields,
and with the 4th gem its aditional 5% yardbonus and now my aditional Limes or shields arent in this score...
im not saying its better then kalas standard one just perhapps
its a good suplement for thouse that didnt complete kalas

You don't need any shields in the middle though. A good attacker will tool Wall-Gate-moat every wave.

are u sure he can zero down all 3 wall-gate-moat with the few slots he can use due to my high gate and it will be even greater all 3 sins its only upped half way, to me it feels like 3 Limes and 1 arrow and 80% closecombat coud stop the moost there maby not the 6th wavers they are propably to massive...
how ever i think its great losses for the attacker and realy think they choose anohter target seeing this

3 limes 1 arrow? 4 limes would be much stronger in the middle. Arrow slits aren't much use against 5 waves of melee and only one wave of range.

So assuming they are using a super, -120% wall, -80 moat. Looking at your screenshot above you have 188 moat so the attacker only needs 8 moat tools to cancel that out.

This leaves 42 slots for gate and wall tools. 336 wall-120= 216. That's 11 wall tools to cancel your wall. That's a total of 19 tools used.

On the gate you have 388.You need 20 gate tools each wave to take this down. Meaning you can cancel out all of your wall/gate/moat in the middle with a well tooled attack. 

[4532770] Rakan (SKN1) [SKN1] :: Aug. 17, 2016, 5:10 p.m.

tonebanno (GB1) said:

tonebanno (GB1) said:

Rakan (SKN1) said:

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

Hmm yes, it does look like you have 388 gate.

Is it possible to switch language to English and then screenshot? That way I can understand better.

Thanks. 

sorry not possible to change,then server changes too ingame,
but i think this is a winner for holding center even tho 6 waves,because you cant fill up with tools enough to 0 down gate wall and moat  and still use propper amount of blue big shields,
and with the 4th gem its aditional 5% yardbonus and now my aditional Limes or shields arent in this score...
im not saying its better then kalas standard one just perhapps
its a good suplement for thouse that didnt complete kalas

You don't need any shields in the middle though. A good attacker will tool Wall-Gate-moat every wave.

are u sure he can zero down all 3 wall-gate-moat with the few slots he can use due to my high gate and it will be even greater all 3 sins its only upped half way, to me it feels like 3 Limes and 1 arrow and 80% closecombat coud stop the moost there maby not the 6th wavers they are propably to massive...
how ever i think its great losses for the attacker and realy think they choose anohter target seeing this

3 limes 1 arrow? 4 limes would be much stronger in the middle. Arrow slits aren't much use against 5 waves of melee and only one wave of range.

So assuming they are using a super, -120% wall, -80 moat. Looking at your screenshot above you have 188 moat so the attacker only needs 8 moat tools to cancel that out.

This leaves 42 slots for gate and wall tools. 336 wall-120= 216. That's 11 wall tools to cancel your wall. That's a total of 19 tools used.

On the gate you have 388.You need 20 gate tools each wave to take this down. Meaning you can cancel out all of your wall/gate/moat in the middle with a well tooled attack. 

yes i can see its 11 slots left for shields as for now untill i upped compleatly in technicus,the thing why i am so intressted in stopping center is that the more tools a player needs the more they look for a different target,or standing the choice of heavy casultys,never or less the castelanian as is now have 97% fightingpower lets say i swap hero and ad 10% more and loose the gate idea perhapps is a better way,then we talk aboute 107% fightingpower,thats very few comms that reaches that raw power

[4533419] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: Aug. 18, 2016, 6:27 a.m.

dude, I love people that try to hold me middle....

Whenever sendign my event demons it walks over by 3rd wave every time against full ruby castas etc.  Middle is a fools game these days.  You only hold middle if they are a total potato and you can win. 

im not fussed about 107% power mate....  doesnt mean anythign if you got 0 CY strength and your silly enough to try and hold middle consistantly. 

[4534518] The Gentleman (INT1) [INT1] :: Aug. 19, 2016, 4:32 a.m.

Rakan (SKN1) said:

The Gentleman (INT1) said:

238% to gate? 

I do not think that is possible. At most you can have +120% from equipment and gems bonus; then +30% from hero.

Total yield for me is 150% gate. 

Perhaps you could elaborate on your point of view, and we can discuss?

Thanks.

heh yes its true i have in that castle 238% bonus on gate if you look on top pic its shown,with tools i have actualy 388% gateprotection and thats raw sumary in writing moment

Ah I did not calculate the 100% protection from the gate itself.

So yes, with this castellan, you will need about 20 armour tools for each wave in front (assuming super commander is used and no hall of legend gate bonus)