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[-317304] StrongRaveN (INT1) [None] :: Aug. 23, 2016, 7:11 p.m.

Guys in winter hunting lodge gives 30% more food of your food production right?And i have 3,7k without it and when i turn on hunting lodge i have 4k food production. 30% of 3,7k is 1,1k so i should have like 4,8k food production. what is going on???

[4540016] Klingon (RO1) [None] :: Aug. 24, 2016, 1:32 p.m.

there is a bug, that 30% is added (to the other bonuses) for kingdoms(ice, sand, fire), instead to be multiplied like for green (great empire).

[4540021] venkatesh (ASIA1) [None] :: Aug. 24, 2016, 1:43 p.m.

shuld be fixed by GGE

[4540103] Pallu (IN1) [None] :: Aug. 24, 2016, 2:53 p.m.

It's not a bug. Hunting lodge gives 30% more BASE food production, not overall. It doesnt give bonuses on the food you get from rv's.

[4540317] Klingon (RO1) [None] :: Aug. 24, 2016, 6:13 p.m.

Pallu (IN1) said:

It's not a bug. Hunting lodge gives 30% more BASE food production, not overall. It doesnt give bonuses on the food you get from rv's.

i have no rvss and i know what i say.

-for main: Base * (100%+PO%) * (100% + Bonuses%) * (100% + HLodge%)
-for kingdoms: Base * (100%+PO%)*(100% + Bonuses% + HLodge%),
so, for kingdoms, hunting lodge is added instead multiplied, as i said before.

when u say "BASE" u use it wrong as can u see here, everything that affect base it give same effect overall, that give for main 20% overall and for kingdoms less than 17-18% depending on other bonuses u have.

[4540497] Pallu (IN1) [None] :: Aug. 24, 2016, 9:47 p.m.

Klingon (RO1) said:

Pallu (IN1) said:

It's not a bug. Hunting lodge gives 30% more BASE food production, not overall. It doesnt give bonuses on the food you get from rv's.

i have no rvss and i know what i say.

-for main: Base * (100%+PO%) * (100% + Bonuses%) * (100% + HLodge%)
-for kingdoms: Base * (100%+PO%)*(100% + Bonuses% + HLodge%),
so, for kingdoms, hunting lodge is added instead multiplied, as i said before.

when u say "BASE" u use it wrong as can u see here, everything that affect base it give same effect overall, that give for main 20% overall and for kingdoms less than 17-18% depending on other bonuses u have.

So what though. Its always been like this.... I'd rather GGE fix the more serious balancing issues.

[4540923] Klingon (RO1) [None] :: Aug. 25, 2016, 10:35 a.m.

Pallu (IN1) said:

So what though. Its always been like this.... I'd rather GGE fix the more serious balancing issues.

the food its very serious thing. now kingdoms lodge is worthless, for newcomers that will get very late a rvs (or never due to multi accounts) will be helpful. 30% is what give a single rvs.
don't say it was always so, as kingdoms was introduced later. isnt too hard to change to Base * (100%+PO%) * ((100% + Bonuses%) * (100% + HLodge%) + rvss%) or like that, there enough smart ppls to find something better.
then for who doesnt have any rvs will be like on great empire (green), for who doesnt have lodge but own rvss will be no change. when u have both can be keept previous version.
why to fight against that saying with no arguments that food isnt enough "serious balancing issue"? or why u care if doenst affect u anyway? the big button "help all" is ur priority? and what cost GGE to make that? just another pair of brackets ...

[4540951] Philt123 (GB1) [GB1] :: Aug. 25, 2016, 10:57 a.m.

its always been like this unfortunatly almost all gge's perventages are like this and are somewhat misleading, 20% very very rarely means 20% in GGE land.

[4541032] perryl (US1) [US1] :: Aug. 25, 2016, 12:22 p.m.

Klingon (RO1) said:

Pallu (IN1) said:

It's not a bug. Hunting lodge gives 30% more BASE food production, not overall. It doesnt give bonuses on the food you get from rv's.

i have no rvss and i know what i say.

-for main: Base * (100%+PO%) * (100% + Bonuses%) * (100% + HLodge%)
-for kingdoms: Base * (100%+PO%)*(100% + Bonuses% + HLodge%),
so, for kingdoms, hunting lodge is added instead multiplied, as i said before.

when u say "BASE" u use it wrong as can u see here, everything that affect base it give same effect overall, that give for main 20% overall and for kingdoms less than 17-18% depending on other bonuses u have.

Base is before all bonuses. Pallu explained it badly by saying before RVs. Base is before anything that affects the value. Whether it's an icon or a hunting lodge shouldn't actually matter. You add hunting lodge and that increases the amount by a % of the base.

As for your math here, suggesting that base is calculated differently in green than in kingdoms. If this is in all kingdoms then this could be intentionally done. I'm not even sure if you're correct or not, and I haven't noticed this myself. Hunting lodge is generally a waste of space anyways. However, after reviewing this myself I can confirm there is definitely a mistake with the calculations here or we're being sold the Hunting Lodge under false pretenses.

For me, 4791.8 turns to 5731 in green and 5905.1 turns into 6294.4 in winter. Although I've never looked at this before I would definitely agree that this is not correct. Certainly, there is an issue with the calculations here @CM Arcanine

Please, Steve, can you explain to me why turning on hunting lodge in Green results in about 20% more food production and in Winter it results in less than 10% more food production? If this is working as intended then the explanation needs to be more clean. We could be spending rubies on our level 2 and level 3 Hunting Lodges under false pretenses. Please rectify this.