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Topic: [280824] The End Of Neph

[4221132] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:01 a.m.
Does KON even care that we are writing crap about them here?

Nope.
so there it is folks KON DOESN'T KARE ...  :s
so can we have our little thread now ? without being censored or badgered or intellectually bludgeoned for trying to exist please?

When did this become your thread? This thread is about people stating whether or not KoN should still be on top. It wasn't that long ago that you were getting shut down, and not allowed to speak. Now you are shutting people down, and they are not allowed to speak? If you don't like it, don't do it to others.
This thread was not designed for you and your buddies to make plans, and "Destroy KoN." Its here for people to post their opinion on the server war, and KoN in general.
As far as KoN not caring, I wouldn't care either. They have made many enemies. A couple alliances full of players no higher then level 50 or 60 isn't that large of a threat. Much less the fact that the alliances don't have more then around 15 people each.
Yes I was going to help cormyria take down KON but I found too many "issues" with his plan, Therefore, I backed up the plan and joined TNP Gathering
ok so thanks for the help? i guess ? it was fun til it wasn't right? ? ?  :*
but hey "What is the point of being a FREEDOM FIGHTER if you can't live FREE " ... Che Guevara .... and any other FREEDOM FIGHTER you may or may not have known like EVER .....  ;)

We're talking about KON it's right what CaptainBro says "KON earned it's spot on the top just like all the others"

KoN did earn their spot on top. They fought and won many wars to get where they are. That's not easy.People may not like it, but they worked hard to get there.


[4221133] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:05 a.m.
Does KON even care that we are writing crap about them here?

Nope.
so there it is folks KON DOESN'T KARE ...  :s
so can we have our little thread now ? without being censored or badgered or intellectually bludgeoned for trying to exist please?

When did this become your thread? This thread is about people stating whether or not KoN should still be on top. It wasn't that long ago that you were getting shut down, and not allowed to speak. Now you are shutting people down, and they are not allowed to speak? If you don't like it, don't do it to others.
This thread was not designed for you and your buddies to make plans, and "Destroy KoN." Its here for people to post their opinion on the server war, and KoN in general.
As far as KoN not caring, I wouldn't care either. They have made many enemies. A couple alliances full of players no higher then level 50 or 60 isn't that large of a threat. Much less the fact that the alliances don't have more then around 15 people each.
Yes I was going to help cormyria take down KON but I found too many "issues" with his plan, Therefore, I backed up the plan and joined TNP Gathering
ok so thanks for the help? i guess ? it was fun til it wasn't right? ? ?  :*
but hey "What is the point of being a FREEDOM FIGHTER if you can't live FREE " ... Che Guevara .... and any other FREEDOM FIGHTER you may or may not have known like EVER .....  ;)

We're talking about KON it's right what CaptainBro says "KON earned it's spot on the top just like all the others"

KoN did earn their spot on top. They fought and won many wars to get where they are. That's not easy.People may not like it, but they worked hard to get there.

Yeah what he said

[4221137] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:19 a.m.
Well thank you... not i love reading the trash talk you talk about KoN

[4221138] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:23 a.m.
Here's what Neph mean for all of you out there wanting to know

nephs
A word used in the Hill District section of Pittsburgh,PA. Its often used as a slang term for "I swear to God" or "on my dead homie's grave". It is a very complicated word with roots of using the word going back to the mid-1990's.

[4221140] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:35 a.m.
Ok let me rephrase your whole discussion about KoN

[4221142] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:45 a.m.
Well thank you... not i love reading the trash talk you talk about KoN
I AM NOT "talking trash "about KON nor is it my intention to "talk trash " about KON i am simply trying to prove a point to KON and my "small BAND of REBELS" as well as anyone else unfortunate enough to be forced to read this thread about what it means to go to war and the importance of understanding the parameters of wartime protocol under ROE and i found all the "trash talk" to be by FAR all to elucidating for my tastes and decided to try and get this thread back on track and headed towards conflict resolution under selfsame wartime ROE .Now from where i am sitting it looks like this will take a very very long time indeed so once more my apologies but i feel my actions are now mandated under my wartime charter ... thank you for your time .... 
it really boils down to the fact that i got fed up with "the end of NEPH" and how it was turning into two kids arguing over how KOOL KON was and one kid trying to start a "resistance" not to mention the FORUM TROLLS from KON ugh ...
so i stepped in and i am acting as the "playground teacher" and we are all going to talk like adults now :)
also i am formally pacted with the "resistance  kid" and i can now help him learn about things like KON and TOS and ROE and counterinsurgency before he gets himself in over his head because all he was trying to do was open a chatlog for discussion (and recruitment? idk) we are NOT attacking ANYONE in KON at this time and i am only responding to ANY and ALL aggression that is shown to me or my allies as per standard ROE :) my operational objectives in this THEATER OF COMBAT OPERATIONS under ROE at ZULU .... please be advised .... 
I put into bold the part I want to state my piece about.When I say this I am not implying that anybody is a kid.

Much of this forum's arguments were between Coolking and you, Cormryia. You both sound to me like the kid who that KoN was cool (Coolking) and the kid starting a resistance (Cormryia) Again, not meant to insult you, just to bring some thought into what you post.

In no way you act as the "playground teacher" or talk like an adult. The things you say are hard to understand, and I have to read over it a couple times to make sure I interpret it correctly. I do not say this to insult you. Sorry if you take offense to it.

[4221143] LightSwayer (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:51 a.m.
Well thank you... not i love reading the trash talk you talk about KoN
I AM NOT "talking trash "about KON nor is it my intention to "talk trash " about KON i am simply trying to prove a point to KON and my "small BAND of REBELS" as well as anyone else unfortunate enough to be forced to read this thread about what it means to go to war and the importance of understanding the parameters of wartime protocol under ROE and i found all the "trash talk" to be by FAR all to elucidating for my tastes and decided to try and get this thread back on track and headed towards conflict resolution under selfsame wartime ROE .Now from where i am sitting it looks like this will take a very very long time indeed so once more my apologies but i feel my actions are now mandated under my wartime charter ... thank you for your time .... 
it really boils down to the fact that i got fed up with "the end of NEPH" and how it was turning into two kids arguing over how KOOL KON was and one kid trying to start a "resistance" not to mention the FORUM TROLLS from KON ugh ...
so i stepped in and i am acting as the "playground teacher" and we are all going to talk like adults now :)
also i am formally pacted with the "resistance  kid" and i can now help him learn about things like KON and TOS and ROE and counterinsurgency before he gets himself in over his head because all he was trying to do was open a chatlog for discussion (and recruitment? idk) we are NOT attacking ANYONE in KON at this time and i am only responding to ANY and ALL aggression that is shown to me or my allies as per standard ROE :) my operational objectives in this THEATER OF COMBAT OPERATIONS under ROE at ZULU .... please be advised .... 
I put into bold the part I want to state my piece about.When I say this I am not implying that anybody is a kid.

Much of this forum's arguments were between Coolking and you, Cormryia. You both sound to me like the kid who that KoN was cool (Coolking) and the kid starting a resistance (Cormryia) Again, not meant to insult you, just to bring some thought into what you post.

In no way you act as the "playground teacher" or talk like an adult. The things you say are hard to understand, and I have to read over it a couple times to make sure I interpret it correctly. I do not say this to insult you. Sorry if you take offense to it.
I couldn't have putted better than that.

[4221145] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 1:54 a.m.
Well thank you... not i love reading the trash talk you talk about KoN
I AM NOT "talking trash "about KON nor is it my intention to "talk trash " about KON i am simply trying to prove a point to KON and my "small BAND of REBELS" as well as anyone else unfortunate enough to be forced to read this thread about what it means to go to war and the importance of understanding the parameters of wartime protocol under ROE and i found all the "trash talk" to be by FAR all to elucidating for my tastes and decided to try and get this thread back on track and headed towards conflict resolution under selfsame wartime ROE .Now from where i am sitting it looks like this will take a very very long time indeed so once more my apologies but i feel my actions are now mandated under my wartime charter ... thank you for your time .... 
it really boils down to the fact that i got fed up with "the end of NEPH" and how it was turning into two kids arguing over how KOOL KON was and one kid trying to start a "resistance" not to mention the FORUM TROLLS from KON ugh ...
so i stepped in and i am acting as the "playground teacher" and we are all going to talk like adults now :)
also i am formally pacted with the "resistance  kid" and i can now help him learn about things like KON and TOS and ROE and counterinsurgency before he gets himself in over his head because all he was trying to do was open a chatlog for discussion (and recruitment? idk) we are NOT attacking ANYONE in KON at this time and i am only responding to ANY and ALL aggression that is shown to me or my allies as per standard ROE :) my operational objectives in this THEATER OF COMBAT OPERATIONS under ROE at ZULU .... please be advised .... 
I put into bold the part I want to state my piece about.When I say this I am not implying that anybody is a kid.

Much of this forum's arguments were between Coolking and you, Cormryia. You both sound to me like the kid who that KoN was cool (Coolking) and the kid starting a resistance (Cormryia) Again, not meant to insult you, just to bring some thought into what you post.

In no way you act as the "playground teacher" or talk like an adult. The things you say are hard to understand, and I have to read over it a couple times to make sure I interpret it correctly. I do not say this to insult you. Sorry if you take offense to it.
again i am simply trying to "give this my best shot" and i know i am not perfect so if i have misled or confused you at this point i APOLOGIZE but i would very much like to get back to the discussion at hand unless you wish to continue to attempt to dismantle every word i have said simply because you do not understand the implications of my words or my copy paste of my ROE ? idk  ...  if you have any questions for me please feel free to ask and i will answer them but i am done debating semantics at this point and we are attempting to continue forward in a reasonable and contrite manner if you don't altogether mind sir .....

I'm done now, just wanted to post my opinion on that. Please continue. :smile: 

[4221165] Nebulous (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 2:35 a.m.
All these other players going against KON aren't even in the MISC or know them, and yet they still dislike KON




Edited: I reduced the quote to save space.



Like I just responded to Manatee: I'm in no one's side I'm simply stating facts.

Also yes I see what you're saying Captain people hate KON and don't even know why. I really don't know why they HATE them you will have to ask them that

I didn't mean to make this such a large response, but felt the need to answer as best as I could.
-CaptB

I would ask people their opinions LightSwayer if they hadn't already voiced their opinions or if I simply hadn't already heard the major reasons people hate Kingdom of Neph.

1) Not Enough to Go Around

A big reason that KoN is disliked is the fact that they own a large portion of the existing Resource Villages. Understandably, people are just looking out for their own account and would like to be in a position where they know their castle will have the productivity to maintain large amounts of troops to either defend themselves or to attack their enemies. However, it must be remembered that all KoN members have been on this server for years and earned their villages either through patience or through war. 

2) Not Enough to Go Around II

Another reason KoN is hated is because they owns a huge amount of power-boosting assets such as metro's, capitals, and KT's. But just like the last example, those castle's were earned by getting to them first when they spawned on the server or by capturing them through war.

3) Big Bullies (My Favorite)

This kind-of ties into big spending in-game, but also the previous paragraphs. KoN is always being accused of being a big bully. The probem with this reason is that KoN is automaticaly labeled as a source of oppression because they are simply more powerful than other.

We've been taught that if someone is stronger than someone else, then it is their responcibility to use their abilities in a responcible way and NOT exploit the less fortunate. However this game revolves around exploiting our surrounding (other players) to get ahead. There is no reason to penalize people like KoN members who have worked (maybe even paid) alot to accumulate the power they currently have.

If being a bully is attacking those who are somehow weaker than ourselves, then everyone is a bully and should simply stop complaining. In the end, anything the non-altered (aka not hacked) version of this game allows is fair. It's simply a personal choice if you're willing to spend money and large amount of time to get your account as far as possible.

[4221168] Beorn Ironsides (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 2:44 a.m.

Thanks CaptainBro. First thing I've read on this thread worth responding to. Greater investment equals greater return, and why not?


[4221169] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 2:47 a.m.
All these other players going against KON aren't even in the MISC or know them, and yet they still dislike KON




Edited: I reduced the quote to save space.



Like I just responded to Manatee: I'm in no one's side I'm simply stating facts.

Also yes I see what you're saying Captain people hate KON and don't even know why. I really don't know why they HATE them you will have to ask them that

I didn't mean to make this such a large response, but felt the need to answer as best as I could.
-CaptB

I would ask people their opinions LightSwayer if they hadn't already voiced their opinions or if I simply hadn't already heard the major reasons people hate Kingdom of Neph.

1) Not Enough to Go Around

A big reason that KoN is disliked is the fact that they own a large portion of the existing Resource Villages. Understandably, people are just looking out for their own account and would like to be in a position where they know their castle will have the productivity to maintain large amounts of troops to either defend themselves or to attack their enemies. However, it must be remembered that all KoN members have been on this server for years and earned their villages either through patience or through war. 

2) Not Enough to Go Around II

Another reason KoN is hated is because they owns a huge amount of power-boosting assets such as metro's, capitals, and KT's. But just like the last example, those castle's were earned by getting to them first when they spawned on the server or by capturing them through war.

3) Big Bullies (My Favorite)

This kind-of ties into big spending in-game, but also the previous paragraphs. KoN is always being accused of being either a big bully. The probem with this reason is that KoN is automaticaly labeled as a source of oppression because they are simply more powerful than other.

We've been taught that if someone is stronger than someone else, then it is their responcibility to use their abilities in a responcible way and NOT exploit the less fortunate. However this game revolves around exploiting our surrounding (other players) to get ahead. There is no reason to penalize people like KoN members who have worked (maybe even paid) alot to accumulate the power they currently have.

If being a bully is attacking those who are somehow weaker than ourselves, then everyone is a bully and should simply stop complaining. In the end, anything the non-altered (aka not hacked) version of this game allows is fair. It's simply a personal choice if you're willing to spend money and large amount of time to get your account as far as possible.

I really like how you put this, because a large amount of the "KoN haters" have no reasoning to back up their hatred.
They would respond with "KoN is a bully" even though they are a level 38 and have never interacted with KoN main, or one of their subs. Mabey the sub of the sub that is KoN's sub is being a bully. But at that point has noting to do with KoN.

[4221173] ccknoeppel (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 2:53 a.m.
I just want to say that even thought there are many sexy people, Neph is the sexier peoples and I think they get the HAWT trophy.

[4221175] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 2:54 a.m.
so it is OK for a small group of independents to ban together and declare war and take all of KON's stuff away as an act of war then correct or are you simply saying KON took all that stuff in war so we there fore have the right to keep it indefenitely without expecting incumbants to ever rise up and challenge yourrule of this or any other server?

When did anybody state that KoN has a right to hold their property? Nobody owns anything. Their name may be on it, but sooner or later somebody else will come by and take it. That's war for you. It's people taking stuff from other people. Honor, wood/stone/food, outposts, RV's, Capitals, Monuments, Labs, etc...

[4221181] Ssam42 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 3 a.m.

Here's what Neph mean for all of you out there wanting to know

nephs
A word used in the Hill District section of Pittsburgh,PA. Its often used as a slang term for "I swear to God" or "on my dead homie's grave". It is a very complicated word with roots of using the word going back to the mid-1990's.
By the way... neph stands for nephillim
Which means "sons of God" and "daughters of men"

[4221188] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 3:04 a.m.
what evs

[4221190] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 3:06 a.m.
so it is OK for a small group of independents to ban together and declare war and take all of KON's stuff away as an act of war then correct or are you simply saying KON took all that stuff in war so we there fore have the right to keep it indefenitely without expecting incumbants to ever rise up and challenge yourrule of this or any other server?

When did anybody state that KoN has a right to hold their property? Nobody owns anything. Their name may be on it, but sooner or later somebody else will come by and take it. That's war for you. It's people taking stuff from other people. Honor, wood/stone/food, outposts, RV's, Capitals, Monuments, Labs, etc...
it is IMPLIED by your reactions to the very idea of resistance much less the resistance itself ....
Nothing is implied. It comes down to a simple fact. If somebody tries to take my RV, I'm going to be pissed off. If they do take it, I would attempt to take 2 of theirs. That's really how everybody thinks. But all property travels around. Sooner or later, everything owned by an alliance will be in the hands of another alliance.

[4221195] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 3:26 a.m.
so it is OK for a small group of independents to ban together and declare war and take all of KON's stuff away as an act of war then correct or are you simply saying KON took all that stuff in war so we there fore have the right to keep it indefenitely without expecting incumbants to ever rise up and challenge yourrule of this or any other server?

When did anybody state that KoN has a right to hold their property? Nobody owns anything. Their name may be on it, but sooner or later somebody else will come by and take it. That's war for you. It's people taking stuff from other people. Honor, wood/stone/food, outposts, RV's, Capitals, Monuments, Labs, etc...
it is IMPLIED by your reactions to the very idea of resistance much less the resistance itself ....
  1. Nothing is implied. It comes down to a simple fact. If somebody tries to take my RV, I'm going to be pissed off. If they do take it, I would attempt to take 2 of theirs. That's really how everybody thinks. But all property travels around. Sooner or later, everything owned by an alliance will be in the hands of another alliance.
 "Sooner or later, everything owned by an alliance will be in the hands of another alliance." so what you are saying is it IS ok to declare WAR and take RV's then ... how are we supposed to get them in EW and SANDS if we don't take them from large alliances that have admittedly more then they can defend ? or would you prefer i look for weaker targets ?
weaker targets don't have RV's so it looks like my only option is to start a rebellion and take what i can on my out the door as i get flagged fro spam simply for trying to post on this thread ,,,, who uses that as a "spin control" tactic i wonder? 

You seem to jump to conclusions on what people mean. 

I have 2 RV's. I could have 10 if I had actively looked to take them, but I didn't. You can gain Rv's from search the "Edge of the map" or the edge of the population. Or from war. All alliances that I got Rv's from were not large alliances. No more then 20 players. I don't have to declare on KoN to take their RV. If you can't find a weaker target with an Rv, you are not looking hard enough.

You can declare on whoever you want. It is a war game, so it is ok. You can attempt to take whatever you want. It is a war game, so it is ok.
 But it will piss people off. Then when you wake up you lost all of your Rv's. A noob has a cap on your best outpost that's defended by hundreds of higher level troops. And you will be under constant attacks coming your way.
Wars between that top alliances happen all the time, so my point was that sooner or later, some other alliance will just take it from you. It could be tomorrow, or 1 year from now when you go inactive.


[4221198] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 3:30 a.m.
so WHAT you are really saying is i should just RAGE QUIT? and be done with this game and go away and find a hobby ?

It seems like every time I say "You jump to conclusions" you seem to prove me right.

When did I ever say, just rage quit and go play goodgame farm?

[4221201] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 3:39 a.m.
so WHAT you are really saying is i should just RAGE QUIT? and be done with this game and go away and find a hobby ? or maybe i could ???? declare war on KON and go out in a blaze of GLORY and under heavy fires ? which is it ? nvm i know what to do ....
try waiting for the post edit next time lol ...:)
i played goodgame farm and galaxy fyi btw ....

I tried Goodgame Galaxy a while ago. Never got into it.

There is no reason why I should wait for a post edit. When somebody posts something, I can reply to it whenever I want. If you had more you wanted to say, that's you're fault. Not mine.

Again with the jumping to conclusions. I never said war KoN and gain a bunch of glory. I don't think I was talking about warring anybody at all. Unless you count me saying that everybody will loose there property sooner or later. It's not saying you should not go for those Rv's, monuments, etc...I'm saying that all the alliances that hold all the nice property will loose it. It could be a year from now. Or it could be tomorrow. Who knows?

[4221208] xXDeathExistsXx (US1) [None] :: Dec. 9, 2015, 4:07 a.m.
Nope