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Board: [942] US Migration Content - Community

Topic: [310264] I am Shocked

[4455884] president_ro (US1) [None] :: June 13, 2016, 8:49 p.m.

From what you have told me, you sound Republican.

There's your problem right there

[4455896] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: June 13, 2016, 9 p.m.

lol, no your problem is you put too much faith into the government, when they screw you over in a few years don't come crying to me.

"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away." - Thomas Jefferson

What I find funny is that back in the day there were close to no shootings, you know why? because kids were TAUGHT about guns and how to handle them properly unlike these days when the only exposure 90% of children ever have to guns is Call of Duty and other first person shooters, instead of being taught how to SAFELY handle a weapon, but their parents think that it's best to just leave them in the dark about guns and one day when the kid is snooping in mom & dad's closet he finds a loaded or unloaded with ammo nearby 9mm and decides to take it to school and shoot a bunch of people.

As far as I am concerned the government is the enemy, and I refuse to listen to their bull crap.

-John

[4455926] president_ro (US1) [None] :: June 13, 2016, 9:44 p.m.

Maybe it is my problem. But I am willing to give everyone a chance.

Everyone except republicans that is.

They are too far gone to help lol

[4455941] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: June 13, 2016, 10:06 p.m.

lol, here's your history lesson for the day (because it is obvious that you need it) This country was founded as a Constitutional Republic, it is obvious that this is where the term "Republican" comes from, The democrats and libertarians believe in government control which will eventually evolve from democracy into a socialist or communism in which case we will wind up being Korea 2.0, and like Thomas Jefferson said "A government big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away." so if you think that you're smarter than Thomas Jefferson you can have fun being screwed over in life, Back to republicans, they try to run things the way that the founding fathers would've wanted it, do you think George Washington would've wanted the government to be preparing to build concentration camps? his casket is probably doing 1,000,000 RPS (Rotations Per Second) because of how screwed up this country is, I think all of the founding fathers are rolling in their graves atm, I admit the party is screwed up, but it isn't nearly as bad as the democratic and libertarian parties, I have personally worked along side some republican representatives who're very nice people, I actually know a few republican representatives who're currently serving at the Washington state capital. I have probably had more experience in my life time than you, your parents and their parents before them combine, so if you want to argue with me I will bring down the hammer (pun intended)

-John

[4455951] president_ro (US1) [None] :: June 13, 2016, 10:39 p.m.

This is getting no where.

btw, I am not a kid

[4456175] Sir Wins Alot (US1) [None] :: June 14, 2016, 6:23 a.m.

[4456973] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: June 14, 2016, 4:03 p.m.

Finally a statement that I can agree with

-John

[4457200] Tiberius Caeser (US1) [None] :: June 14, 2016, 7:09 p.m.

Democrats/Liberals/Socialists:

Your opponent's point of view is quite simple to understand:

 The restriction of weapons according to the law does not cause criminal to cease the production and use of weapons; The Conservative sentiment generally seems to be that criminals might tend to disobey the law.

Republicans/Conservatives/Anarchists:

Your opponent's point of view is quite simple to understand:

The restriction of weapons according to the law causes criminals to either cease the production of weapons or their use; The Liberal sentiment generally seems to be that criminals are likely to obey the law, or coerced into submission to the law, possibly through force or through the application of disincentives through the threat of force.
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Yes I am aware that there are things called security checkpoints; I am also aware of their cost and the methods of circumventing them. I am certainly aware of the unusual tendency of false and inacurate propaganda to propagate itself, often being affiliated with all, both or multiple parties and/or associations and/or organizations.

Note: Please do not take offense at me using the word coerced, coercion can often be positive, and there are, as so often occurs, multiple definitions for the word in question.

[4457221] Sir Wins Alot (US1) [None] :: June 14, 2016, 7:27 p.m.

Coolking4716 (US1) said:

Finally a statement that I can agree with

-John

[4460830] redled (US1) [US1] :: June 17, 2016, 6:22 p.m.

Sir Wins Alot (US1) said:

president_ro (US1) said:

Sir Wins Alot (US1) said:

redled (US1) said:

I'm an atheist so...
no thanks.

president_ro (US1) said:

I'm an Atheist to the end!

I don't get it.

Um...ok...
Picture yourself in a foxhole..............bombs are dropping all around you so you know your going die very soon more-than-likely....your not going do some heavy praying at the last minute?

 

Nope , nothing to pray too.

[4460841] redled (US1) [US1] :: June 17, 2016, 6:26 p.m.

The Navy Seal (US1) said:

redled (US1) said:

I'm an atheist so...
no thanks.

so you  think all the sons moons plants all living things created itself   LOL

You think some creature that can do anything created the universe that was made before time ,how would it be created , how would something ever do that? Personally I think it is a stretch about that. So yeah I do buddy!

[4479638] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: July 4, 2016, 8:48 p.m.

Finally, a statement that I can agree with "it makes sense to me that the cause is a timeless intelligent creator."

As a Christian y'all know where I stand on this issue, the guy who made the video is a muslim, and I swear on the bible that I am not being racist, but the muslims hate anyone who isn't a muslim, the Quran states that they're to kill anyone who isn't a muslim, and tbh they're pissed because their people are converting to Christianity every day, this is one of their ways of trying to get people to convert to islam.

I am going to make an example of how we know the bible is correct and wasn't written by a bunch of drunk people.

In the past decade or so scientists have found that there are giant underwater caverns at the bottom of the ocean, the bible states that after the 40 days and 40 nights of the flood the water retreated into the deep referring to said caverns.

If that isn't proof enough for you, I can give you a bunch of other info, just message me.

-John

[4479683] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: July 4, 2016, 10:33 p.m.

lol, if they have ever taken any time to read the Quran and are still muslims and haven't joined the "radicals", they're either

A. Ignoring it

B. Waiting to act

C. Play their notes in the background where nobody notices it.

Go take some time, learn Arabic and read the Quran, you will see what I am talking about.

Once again, the muslims are pissed at Christians like myself because their people are converting from islam to Christianity by the thousands.

I have done my research, I know what I am talking about, just because I am thirteen doesn't mean that I do not do my research, you people can keep pretending that the world is perfect and that nothing bad is ever going to happen to you, but if my math is correct (which it usually is) in about 3-4 decades (give or take a few years) you will see exactly what I am talking about.

-John

[4479721] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: July 5, 2016, 1:29 a.m.

As I clearly stated above there are those who decide to ignore that specific part of the Quran, there are good people who're muslims, I have met a few myself, but it doesn't change what the Quran says.

-John

[4480520] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: July 5, 2016, 8:14 p.m.

Deadly (US1) said:

I wanted to make the point that generalizing everybody belonging to such a broad religion like Islam isn't right because it often results in unfair prejudice/bias which would be racism if Islam is a race. There are messed up Muslims and good Muslims, like everything else, and you can't lump them all in the same bin. We both agree on that much, right?

The Quran can be interpreted in more than one way. Some of its verses are to be interpreted from a very particular historical, situational context for example. What it actually says when accurately translated and how it should be interpreted I will leave for others to debate, though, since I have a very limited amount knowledge on this topic.

Cheers!

-Deadly

I agree, there are many good muslims, but I know what the Quran says, once again there are good muslims, but that doesn't change what the Quran says or what the religion was based on.

-John

[4480569] MammaWolf (US1) [US1] :: July 5, 2016, 8:53 p.m.

Coolking4716 (US1) said:

lol, if they have ever taken any time to read the Quran and are still muslims and haven't joined the "radicals", they're either

A. Ignoring it

B. Waiting to act

C. Play their notes in the background where nobody notices it.

Go take some time, learn Arabic and read the Quran, you will see what I am talking about.

Once again, the muslims are pissed at Christians like myself because their people are converting from islam to Christianity by the thousands.

I have done my research, I know what I am talking about, just because I am thirteen doesn't mean that I do not do my research, you people can keep pretending that the world is perfect and that nothing bad is ever going to happen to you, but if my math is correct (which it usually is) in about 3-4 decades (give or take a few years) you will see exactly what I am talking about.

-John

Coolking4716 (US1) said:

As I clearly stated above there are those who decide to ignore that specific part of the Quran, there are good people who're muslims, I have met a few myself, but it doesn't change what the Quran says.

-John

Deadly (US1) said:

I wanted to make the point that generalizing everybody belonging to such a broad religion like Islam isn't right because it often results in unfair prejudice/bias which would be racism if Islam is a race. There are messed up Muslims and good Muslims, like everything else, and you can't lump them all in the same bin. We both agree on that much, right?

The Quran can be interpreted in more than one way. Some of its verses are to be interpreted from a very particular historical, situational context for example. What it actually says when accurately translated and how it should be interpreted I will leave for others to debate, though, since I have a very limited amount knowledge on this topic.

Cheers!

-Deadly

Coolking4716 (US1) said:

Deadly (US1) said:

I wanted to make the point that generalizing everybody belonging to such a broad religion like Islam isn't right because it often results in unfair prejudice/bias which would be racism if Islam is a race. There are messed up Muslims and good Muslims, like everything else, and you can't lump them all in the same bin. We both agree on that much, right?

The Quran can be interpreted in more than one way. Some of its verses are to be interpreted from a very particular historical, situational context for example. What it actually says when accurately translated and how it should be interpreted I will leave for others to debate, though, since I have a very limited amount knowledge on this topic.

Cheers!

-Deadly

I agree, there are many good muslims, but I know what the Quran says, once again there are good muslims, but that doesn't change what the Quran says or what the religion was based on.

-John

Okay so please bear with me as generally I don't participate in conversations/debates such as these. This is a topic that I feel strongly about so I'm going to make an effort. 

So, sorry not sorry @Coolking4716 (US1)  but what you've said is kinda racist. If you have to say that you're not being racist, maybe you shouldn't be saying whatever it is you're going to say? Racism is "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." So by saying that all/most Muslims are terrorists is a racists statement. Kinda like when Nazis said that all Jewish people were less than human. Or Trump saying all Mexicans are rapists and murders. Or people that walk to the other side of the street when they see a black person coming because they have internalized racism that all black men are thieves, rapists and murders. This kind of thinking leads to events such as the Holocaust or the Japanese internment camps in the U.S.

I just wanted to point out that Christians also pick and choose what parts of the bible to believe, or interpret things in different ways. We don't stone people to death anymore do we? But the bible says that if someone sins that we should. There are liberal Christians and conservative ones. There are radicals in both Christianity and Islam. 

[4480587] Coolking4716 (US1) [None] :: July 5, 2016, 9:21 p.m.

As i stated above, there are many good people who're muslim, BUT it doesn't change what the Quran says, there is only one way to interpret it.

For the last time, the Quran says that muslims are to kill anyone who is "unrighteous" referring to ANYONE and EVERYONE who isn't muslim, which is why i keep my guard up when around muslims until i have gotten to know them.

You can call me a racist, paranoid, conspiracy theorist, or an ignorant 13 year old, nothing i haven't been called before, @MammaWolf (US1) i commend you for standing up and making your point heard, it is a good character trait, however, I will not stand down, us Christians are what you could describe as "Suicide Bombers" the ones like myself will continue to make their point until they die, whether it costs them their lives or not, you people do not realize the danger i put myself in by making these statements, tbh it puts a target on the back of my head, but I do not let it stop me.

I know a lot more about the real world than 90% of people in america, and that is not arrogance speaking, I know that the knowledge I have stuck in my head is accurate, whether you choose to believe it or not is a choice that is yours to make, not mine to force on you, but I will not back down until the day i die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWLZ_MrPplk

-John

[4482722] Sir Wins Alot (US1) [None] :: July 7, 2016, 12:04 p.m.

MammaWolf (US1) said:

Okay so please bear with me as generally I don't participate in conversations/debates such as these. This is a topic that I feel strongly about so I'm going to make an effort. 

So, sorry not sorry @Coolking4716 (US1)  but what you've said is kinda racist. If you have to say that you're not being racist, maybe you shouldn't be saying whatever it is you're going to say? Racism is "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." So by saying that all/most Muslims are terrorists is a racists statement. Kinda like when Nazis said that all Jewish people were less than human.

 Or Trump saying all Mexicans are rapists and murders.

 Or people that walk to the other side of the street when they see a black person coming because they have internalized racism that all black men are thieves, rapists and murders. This kind of thinking leads to events such as the Holocaust or the Japanese internment camps in the U.S.

I just wanted to point out that Christians also pick and choose what parts of the bible to believe, or interpret things in different ways. We don't stone people to death anymore do we? But the bible says that if someone sins that we should. There are liberal Christians and conservative ones. There are radicals in both Christianity and Islam. 

I agree with ya  MammaWolf (US1)  that  we should not put ALL people into certain categories.

We also should not mis quote people either.
Trump never stated  "ALL Mexicans are rapists and murders."
( You heard what you wanted to hear apparently.  "shrug") He was how ever referring to the Hispanics who do those horrible crimes in Mexico and over here. I disagree with about HALF of what Trump spews out of his mouth but I hate to see anyone misquoted like he has been. My s worth.
Carry on and thanks for stating your opinion MammaWolf (US1) 

[4482817] Tiberius Caeser (US1) [None] :: July 7, 2016, 1:49 p.m.

There is a difference between religion and race.

I would post the definition here, but the "V" key is currently not present on my computer.

Perhaps you should substitute "[Coolking4716 is] Discriminating against persons based on their religious affiliation" for
"[Coolking4716 is a] racist".

Regardless of whether Coolking4716 is guilty as charged, it would be more logical, understandable, and straightforward if the charge was presented in the manner recommended above.