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Topic: [311949] Your View on Heaven and/or Hell

[-311949] karman_gamer (US1) [None] :: June 27, 2016, 11:14 p.m.

Here you can state your view on heaven and/or hell. 
Please lets not start fights about it i made this thread so you can use freedom of speech and state what you think.

[4471726] The Carnifex (US1) [US1] :: June 27, 2016, 11:21 p.m.

I think that we will know or wont know if it really does or does not exist only when we die.
Nothing to disprove the idea as such.

[4471738] karman_gamer (US1) [None] :: June 27, 2016, 11:37 p.m.

thats true
have you ever heard of faith by hearing not by sight

[4471750] The Carnifex (US1) [US1] :: June 27, 2016, 11:58 p.m.

That's something I cannot believe in, at least with something so important.

[4471751] karman_gamer (US1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, midnight

i do i believe there is a heaven and a hell bcz the book the bible to be exact that says the exist has been proven throughout time so i have faith by hearing not by sight

[4471755] The Carnifex (US1) [US1] :: June 28, 2016, 12:02 a.m.

Some people take the bible more figuratively than literally. It depends on how you look at it
Why do you choose the bible over say the Quran?

[4471762] karman_gamer (US1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, 12:05 a.m.

well the bible has proved its self over time thousands of people over time have tried to destroy it but it still exists every prophesy in the old testament has come true completely it is the only logical way to explian how the universe came about and why we are here

[4471832] Sir Wins Alot (US1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, 2:36 a.m.

[4472349] The Carnifex (US1) [US1] :: June 28, 2016, 3:30 p.m.

karman_gamer (US1) said:

well the bible has proved its self over time thousands of people over time have tried to destroy it but it still exists every prophesy in the old testament has come true completely it is the only logical way to explian how the universe came about and why we are here

Who created God?

[4472357] Neurotic (US1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, 3:39 p.m.

Carnifexx (US1) said:

karman_gamer (US1) said:

well the bible has proved its self over time thousands of people over time have tried to destroy it but it still exists every prophesy in the old testament has come true completely it is the only logical way to explian how the universe came about and why we are here

Who created God?

Your supposed to have faith that God was and is eternal. It's confusing. 
From a logical standpoint, it's absurd, but then again, the thought that we evolved from monkeys, or that a big explosion created the universe is just as crazy.

[4472367] The Carnifex (US1) [US1] :: June 28, 2016, 3:49 p.m.

Well yeah, nothing can be traced back to something of utter origin, it's simply impossible. Something must always come from something.

"Your supposed to have faith that God was and is eternal. It's confusing. "

We can't have anything to do with why he exists. Because he created us.

[4472376] ShadowOfEvil (GB1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, 3:59 p.m.

So something perfect (God) created something imperfect (us)....that makes no sense at all since anything that comes from something perfect must be perfect themselves, also the Bible supports  slavery.......

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT

and rape......

[4472386] famouszack9 (US1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, 4:20 p.m.

Heaven is good people, Hell is for bad people. That's my theory.

[4472393] nathan372 (US1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, 4:29 p.m.

I believe that there is some form of an afterlife, but i believe that over time, the bible and other religious books have been altered over time by people to suit their needs. I just try to live my life the best i can everyday, and know that in my mind that is all  i can do, and if there really is a hevan or hell, then i did my best to get to heaven.

[4472416] Sir Wins Alot (US1) [None] :: June 28, 2016, 5:10 p.m.

[4472836] Deth (ASIA1) [ASIA1] :: June 29, 2016, 2:22 a.m.

Well, for my views please read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the bible.

As far as who made God goes, I have a fairly simple answer. God lives outside of time. Time was something he created when he created the universe. He sees all time simultaneously.  And because he isn't in it, nothing was ever there before him. So quite simply he always "was" and always "will be". We have a hard time understaning the concept because we live in time.

[4472938] CM Popeye [None] :: June 29, 2016, 7:44 a.m.

I have gone ahead and closed this thread as it hits a bit too close to home for a lot of people. I see nothing wrong with this type of conversation in general, but these forums are not the proper place to be having it.

-Popeye