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Topic: [282179] 讨论: 外来帝国入侵活动排名!

[-282179] 阿尔及利亚 [None] :: July 30, 2014, 2:23 p.m.
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想想

[4105071] Sunerson [None] :: July 30, 2014, 4:09 p.m.
你說你討厭這遊戲變得商業化,但看你玩得還挺投入的。

[4105072] 阿尔及利亚 [None] :: July 30, 2014, 6:17 p.m.
Sunerson 不完全如此。给我我很喜欢这个游戏要早得多,有没有投资的球员,球员不投资不平衡。
此外,有的球员,帮不上的联盟现在见这种平衡。
它很难让我表达我的想法,一种语言,不是我的但我试着。我有时真的不好。
我不明白为什么一些有决心要垄断此服务器。我不明白为什么摧毁任何联盟或想要变得坚强的球员。
为什么最强球员都只有 2 或 3 的联盟在一起吗?
为什么不分布在 20 个不同的联盟和使游戏更有趣吗?
这种态度只获取上面所示的什么号码: 球员有没有在这台服务器上玩的热情。任何玩家列表中其他服务器,从这台服务器赢得了更多的积分,比最高的 10 名球员。我们应该要考虑一下。
没有垄断。革命、 无政府状态 ! :D


Not exactly so Sunerson. To me I liked this game much earlier, there was no imbalance between both players who invest and players who do not invest.
In addition, there are players and alliances that do not help meet this balance now.
It's hard for me to express my ideas in a language that is not mine, but I try. Sometimes I get really bad.
I do not understand why some have the determination to monopolize this server. I do not understand why destroy any alliance or player who wants to be strong.
Why the strongest players are on only 2 or 3 alliances together?
Why are not spread over 20 different alliances and make the game more fun?
With this attitude only gets what the numbers shown above: players have no enthusiasm for playing on this server. Any player list of other servers, has won more points than the top 10 players from this server. We should think about this.
No monopolies. Revolution, Anarchy! :D

[4105078] Weisseule [None] :: July 31, 2014, 12:52 a.m.
我不會那麼確定的說"所有其他伺服器的玩家前十名積分表"都超過中文伺服器的top 10...
比如說韓國vs阿联酋...
但我也同意如果玩家數量能更多,讓厲害的玩家不要只集中在幾個大盟中會對伺服器的發展更有益。不過我想關鍵還是在於中文伺服器沒有吸引到足夠數量的新玩家來調整遊戲的生態平衡。

I won't be so certain of "any player list of other servers" has won more points than the ZH players.
for example, Korea vs United Arab Emirates
But I do agree with your idea that we should have more players in our server so that stronger players do not only gather in few major alliances. However, I guess the key point lies on that the ZH server didn't attract enough new comers to adjust the balance.

[4105086] Sunerson [None] :: July 31, 2014, 7:13 a.m.
這些積分不只是進攻方面,反而大多是因防守而拿到積分的。那個排名無所謂,玩家們投入在這遊戲的地方各有不同,有的人喜歡它的各項紅寶石活動,有的人則是喜歡風暴、荊棘之王那一類,有的人喜歡和其他聯盟打仗,所以不能依排名做判斷標準。對我而言,外來帝國就和打匪爵沒太大差別,因為無法做到同步,只多了榮耀值這項,甚至我也懷疑是不是各個服務器獨立運作。我想,沒有人要壟斷這服務器,戰略遊戲帶入的是赤裸裸的人心變化,一邊攻打,另一方面也怕被反咬一口。很多厲害的玩家聚集在同一個聯盟,是因為打仗才互相認識,彼此欣賞。所有這些,都是許多玩家自己的抉擇,不管是不是被情勢所逼。就算其他聯盟沒有那些高等玩家,他們還是可以打得起勁,你不知道吗? 而且除非是遊戲公司的人,才有辦法掌握全部聯盟、玩家的動態。每個國家都有自己的民族文化,表現在各個服務器裡,而當一個人說要徹底改革時,那他其實做的和他所想的壟斷沒有區別。壟斷意味著用自己的方法使別人不得不就範,你所說的,到頭來也只是另一種形式的壟斷,只是想法不同、做法不同,都只是為了達到自己的目的。沒有人可以在這遊戲中說自己多麽正確,或者想要為大家著想。而真正厭惡這種遊戲的人,老早就會退出。你,不是,你和一般人相同,只是為了讓他人接受自己的觀點,而做出一些事情。 Have fun....in this war of human nature.

[4105094] x英雄x [None] :: July 31, 2014, 11:50 a.m.
所以這表示中文伺服器比較和平吗?
我覺得不然.

[4105095] 123player092 [None] :: July 31, 2014, 11:52 a.m.
和其他的伺服器比起來,搞不好真的比較平和;)

[4105099] x英雄x [None] :: July 31, 2014, 12:07 p.m.
不.
真正想和平的人.
大多被好战的人除掉了

[4105103] 阿尔及利亚 [None] :: July 31, 2014, 12:39 p.m.
朋友你好,谢谢你与我交谈。我喜欢这种讨论。
Weisseule 的朋友,我认为几名球员,这台服务器是没有吸引力的原因,原因是顶级球员新玩家弹出快速增长。我给你一个例子:
水平 20 接收一次攻击的 35 级行会的骑士。这次袭击和 2 联盟对我宣战,玩家等级 70 攻击我再次回来
我这是一个垄断 Sunerson 朋友。见过不只与我,我见过其他的球员。仅有 44 的 70 级玩家。
为什么没有 200 吗?因为一些球员都害怕失去他们的权力?这是一场游戏,只是图纸,字节数,当你失去一场战斗,不烧你的房子,刻录一张图片在屏幕上。不坏,失去一场战斗或战争,麻烦的是,没有离开乐趣。
Aavirus 到 lizzy30000 和其他许多人发生了什么事?
想想这个。这是更多有趣的高水平分为 20 联盟,都是只有 2 或 3。您可以更改此。
此服务器可以很有趣,因为它不饱和的球员,但应给新玩家更多的自由。 ;)



Hello friends, thanks for talking with me. I like this discussion.
Weisseule Friend, I think that the reason few players, this server is unattractive, the reason is that the top players new players ejected growing fast. I give you an example:
I level 20 receive a attack of a level 35 guild Knights. I return the attack and 2 alliances declare war on me and the players level 70 attack me again and again.
To me this is a monopoly Sunerson friend. I have seen this not only with me, I've seen other players. There are only 44 players of level 70.
Why no 200? Because some players are afraid of losing their power? This is a game, are just drawings and bytes, when you lose a battle, not burn your house, burn a picture on the screen. Not bad to lose a battle or a war, the trouble is that no leave fun.
What happened to aavirus to lizzy30000 and many others?
Think about this. It's much more fun that high levels are divided into 20 alliances that are only 2 or 3. You can change this.
This server can be fun because it is not saturated with players, but should give more freedom to the new players. ;)

[4105104] Sunerson [None] :: July 31, 2014, 2:28 p.m.
就像你說的,這只是一個在螢幕顯示的電腦數據(bytes),城堡起火也僅僅是個畫面,不過又有多少人能真正理解呢? 你可以吗? 我不這麽認為...不然你就會徹底離開遊戲,而不是受到刺激後,替自己找個理由在這裡創新帳號。另外,你剛漏說一位,jerry。每個人都在這遊戲找到讓自己開心的理由,交朋友的、想擁護自己權力的,或單純喜歡和人打仗的。"It's much more fun that high levels are divided into 20 alliances"....不是吧,等級一直都不是和實力成正比,我相信你還記得我之前說的話(你也同意,不是嗎?),只要用心研究,即使是中等級,仍然可以讓人感到佩服。對我而言,紅寶石確實可以是破壞遊戲力量平衡的東西,不過它只是一項工具,端看玩家怎麼使用。我是個比較喜歡靠自己去找人挑戰的玩家,而不是拉一堆人去攻打其他人,除非它和聯盟利益、朋友扯上關係。當然,所有我講的,也都是基於一堆電腦資料。壟斷可不只是你說的那樣,還有思想上的壟斷,行為和想法同時造就了這裡的文化。

[4105107] 阿尔及利亚 [None] :: July 31, 2014, 8:41 p.m.
在一些完全点我们协议的朋友。我承认我使用 Ruby,为此得到好处。但一个一般的球员,而无需使用 Ruby 可以捍卫对顶尖球员的同一天 20 攻击吗?所有知道的答案。
结束辩解任何手段吗?我一直认为在这种情况啊。我会说用一只手上的心,我希望我能玩没有红宝石,但是是不可能的。
赢得与我守卫的士兵,这位已经攻击了我的球员将报告发送给朋友,另一个是他们攻击我。所以 2、 3、 4 次......直到我跑出捍卫者,烧了我。然后我返回到攻击和他联盟攻击的主要水平我每 3 个小时。这是如何的骑士们,我经历过的工作。球员必须尊重对手和提供的时间来恢复。
红宝石肝功能失代偿,但态度我已经解释过,更加不平衡。我说与此服务器的问题是资深球员自己不改变他们的态度,和这个原因我只可以玩这种方式你不喜欢,但我不能做否则比"爆炸"直到事情的变化。


At some points We completely agreement friend. I admit that I use Ruby and get benefits for this. But one average player without using Ruby can defend 20 attacks on the same day of top players? All know the answer.
The end justifies any means? I think in this situation yes, always. I will say with hand on heart, I wish I could play without rubies, but is not possible.
I win a battle with my defending soldiers, the player who has attacked me sends the report to friends and another of them attacking me. So 2, 3, 4 times ... until I run out of defenders and burned me. Then I return to attack and major levels of his alliance attack me every 3 hours. This is how the knights, I have experienced work. Players must respect opponents and provide time to recover.
Rubies decompensate, but attitudes as I have explained, much more unbalanced. And I say that the problem with this server, are veteran players themselves who do not change their attitude, and for this reason I can only play this way you do not like, but I can not do otherwise than "bombings "until something changes.

[4105110] Sunerson [None] :: Aug. 1, 2014, 6:08 a.m.
事實上,受到猛烈攻擊的情況我非常能理解。不只是一些聯盟會做,也曾經有玩家以一人挑戰所有的玩家,四處惹怨。不過我能先跟你說明白,除非遊戲能真正保障玩家不會被完全消滅,不然情況就算現在改善,在你離開後,事情仍然会變回原樣。也就是說,你所做的將會是徒勞無功,只是激化人之間的衝突。一個聯盟結束,會有其他聯盟起而代之。踏入這遊戲的人,都想要找時機發洩自己內心暴虐的一面,程度不同而已,方式不同而已。所以,要徹底改變,就不是以暴制暴這麼簡單,而是要去了解問題到底出在哪裡,遊戲設定? 玩家心理? 你明白吗,朋友?

[4105111] chouxiaoluo (CN1) [None] :: Aug. 1, 2014, 8:23 a.m.
:-(,又是一场闹剧,无聊无聊~
@阿尔及利亚先森,为什么你有这些数据呢?这些服务器你都有涉及?

[4105164] 小屁孩Player [None] :: Aug. 3, 2014, 7:06 a.m.
如果你要說他們是怎麼了那就是話不要說得太令人反感不然會引來麻煩我覺得30000他不適合當外交官 當外交官要很積極說不能太令人反感她的個性太衝了点要當外交官就要看看自己有沒有那個聰明能讓對方心服口服而不是讓對方惱羞成怒
總結:我覺得他可以當將軍或元帥就是不適合當外交官