Forum: empire-en
Board: [580] Update Questions & Feedback
Topic: [363346] Discussion Thread : Relic - What you need to know!
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dandelion1958 (GB1) [GB1]
:: May 24, 2019, 11:46 a.m.
Personnally i just sell all the relic equipment to free up storage space for useful items - i have legendary eqpt. in store wioth better stats than the sh*t i've been getting
- and you need to sort the smithy out so you have the option to forge propper equipment instead of the relic ones or remove the task from the daily quests !
- and you need to sort the smithy out so you have the option to forge propper equipment instead of the relic ones or remove the task from the daily quests !
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bummer (AU1) (Banned) [AU1]
:: May 25, 2019, 3:35 a.m.
That is assuming there are people able to think and most of all are having a drawing boardDruids (GB1) said:I don't think gge will colour code relic stuff, as you will be able to see at a glance just what rubbish you are being given, and most of it is rubbish, and repeatable rubbish at that. Like everyone else has said gge need to go back to the drawing board, and rethink the process.
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: May 25, 2019, 10:40 a.m.
Quality druids, I cant really argue with that. if they dont look at the stats they should change the colours to different shades of brown
for 1)really s***, 2) not quite as s***, 3)plain old s***, etc.
for 1)really s***, 2) not quite as s***, 3)plain old s***, etc.
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Del Diablo (GB1) [GB1]
:: May 25, 2019, 7:12 p.m.
pmslPhilt123 (GB1) said:Quality druids, I cant really argue with that. if they dont look at the stats they should change the colours to different shades of brown
for 1)really s***, 2) not quite as s***, 3)plain old s***, etc.
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Alias1 (US1) [US1]
:: May 29, 2019, 9:50 a.m.
I personally am getting tired of paying 80,000 coins every day just to meet daily quota. Whenever you add the Alliance Smithy for the daily tasks we have to pay for that - totally not fair for level 70 and above to pay for their alliance smithy - either remove alliance smithy from daily requirements or allow us to access it like normal.
Second point - for those who don't want Relic equipment - why can't we have a button or box to check for Relic or regular?
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: May 29, 2019, 10:14 a.m.
If they did that they would actually have to admit that the relic equipment is a huge flop in its current form. As it would have to admit that if players would prefer the outdated normal equipment that has been in the game for 7 years. rather than the new shiny equipment its just introduced into the game then it has missed the mark significantly.
And do you see GGE climbing down? Unfortuantly once it has started something even if its the most horrible idea ever it will follow it through to the bitter end.
Take shapeshifters, it was brought in so you couldnt cheat it. Like you could the traditional glory events. It failed spectacularly there, not only could it be cheated pretty easily, they made it so 99% of players simply send off 32 troops 5 times a day. without any need for skill decent troops or decent equipment. Sure people dont complain as its a very easy way to get good equipment for effectivly doing nothing. It takes neither skill nor effort. A truly horrible event. And one that dumbs down the game to spectacularly low levels.
The hunting / collecting events? fake PVP events whare no one bothers to actually defend. how can you have a fake PVP event where only the attacker participates and the defender doesnt give a toss? thats not PVP? Its a joke.
And do you see GGE climbing down? Unfortuantly once it has started something even if its the most horrible idea ever it will follow it through to the bitter end.
Take shapeshifters, it was brought in so you couldnt cheat it. Like you could the traditional glory events. It failed spectacularly there, not only could it be cheated pretty easily, they made it so 99% of players simply send off 32 troops 5 times a day. without any need for skill decent troops or decent equipment. Sure people dont complain as its a very easy way to get good equipment for effectivly doing nothing. It takes neither skill nor effort. A truly horrible event. And one that dumbs down the game to spectacularly low levels.
The hunting / collecting events? fake PVP events whare no one bothers to actually defend. how can you have a fake PVP event where only the attacker participates and the defender doesnt give a toss? thats not PVP? Its a joke.
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K H A N (ASIA1) [ASIA1]
:: June 1, 2019, 11:26 a.m.
what about those relic items which come in offers?
why are they so expensive 425-450k rubies,why?
is there some thing special in 'em?
why are they so expensive 425-450k rubies,why?
is there some thing special in 'em?
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dliu3 (US1) [US1]
:: June 3, 2019, 8:40 p.m.
Relic gems need better stats.
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Sherlock56 (US1) [US1]
:: June 15, 2019, 4:27 p.m.
I have found the relic equipment quite fascinating, If you get enough of it and mix and match the different types of sets ei: battlescarred , timeworn , regular you can build some nice event specific armour. I have built for Berri and nomads commanders that are equivelent or better than my Pheonix +5 commanders.
That said Storage space is woefully inadequate and commander space too. Does the construction speed increase apply to tools or buildings or both. Some of the relic pieces come with a small white exclamation point on them. Whats that about..
Thanks gge You have made the game interesting again. Sometimes we have to work at better.
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: June 27, 2019, 9:33 p.m.
add to the fact the NPC bonus on the cast has been broken since it was introduced and as yet no sign of a fix!!! Which is pretty unbelievable to be honest.
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Aleem Pasha (US1) [US1]
:: June 28, 2019, 10:20 a.m.
it's been 10 DAYS and not a single post from a single moderator and not even a single reply to our posts
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niko_356 (BG1) [BG1]
:: June 29, 2019, 8:29 p.m.
defensive NCP options why do not they work against nomads? nomads are they castles of players or aliens?
where this NPC option can be used?
where this NPC option can be used?
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Player X (GB1) [GB1]
:: July 26, 2019, 1:09 p.m.
Personally, I absolutely love the relic equipment idea, makes it easy for very low level lvl 70's like me to gain fine sets without spending a fortune.
HOWEVER the big problem I've found with this equipment is the caps on courtyard bonus combat strength. In previous sets it has no limits, allowing you to have sets like the Mastter Summnoner with 120 CY power or beyond:

But with relic comms it has a cap of 80%!!!!

This reduces my potential CY bonus by more than 50%!! Also, I only registered the cap after I'd actually placed the gems onthe equipment, lol, it should be made more clear! When considering the fact relic items are supposed to be better and stronger than all other types of equipment, eg. unique, as it is concerning some aspects like general combat strength, this aspect is LAUGHABLE! The feature of the commander that actually makes a difference, the courtyard bonus, has become hopelessly limited in the supposedly strongest commanders in the game!!
When comparing this to superb commanders made by players using unique equipment items, with CY bonuses as high as 170%, one can't help thinking it might be better to stick with the unique sets.
Please remedy this, changing this would indeed make the relic equipment one of the best additions to the game ever!!
HOWEVER the big problem I've found with this equipment is the caps on courtyard bonus combat strength. In previous sets it has no limits, allowing you to have sets like the Mastter Summnoner with 120 CY power or beyond:

But with relic comms it has a cap of 80%!!!!

This reduces my potential CY bonus by more than 50%!! Also, I only registered the cap after I'd actually placed the gems onthe equipment, lol, it should be made more clear! When considering the fact relic items are supposed to be better and stronger than all other types of equipment, eg. unique, as it is concerning some aspects like general combat strength, this aspect is LAUGHABLE! The feature of the commander that actually makes a difference, the courtyard bonus, has become hopelessly limited in the supposedly strongest commanders in the game!!
When comparing this to superb commanders made by players using unique equipment items, with CY bonuses as high as 170%, one can't help thinking it might be better to stick with the unique sets.
Please remedy this, changing this would indeed make the relic equipment one of the best additions to the game ever!!
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TheBigO (ASIA1) [ASIA1]
:: July 26, 2019, 11 p.m.
Read more carefully. The commander you showed has a CY cap of 140% versus glory targets(Foreign and Bloodcrow) and a CY cap of 100% versus real players. The real cap versus real players may actually be higher, I haven't played around with this relic equipment enough to know for sure.
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Player X (GB1) [GB1]
:: July 28, 2019, 1:59 p.m.
I realise that, but I was referring to the unspecified courtyard cap - it'll be really hard to get that 140% with glory targets full, but even then it's only 100% maximum with regular castle lords. Like I said, this cap is non-existent with non-relic equipment, so I think it shouldn't exist in relics either.
Thanks for trying to help though!
Thanks for trying to help though!

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sir-haba (SKN1) [SKN1]
:: July 30, 2019, 3:04 p.m.
you should look at those range and melee powers, those caps are much bigger than what normal equipments have, you can get range and melee to 150 against other castle lords, and even more against other targets, that is 60more than in regular equipments.Player X (GB1) said:I realise that, but I was referring to the unspecified courtyard cap - it'll be really hard to get that 140% with glory targets full, but even then it's only 100% maximum with regular castle lords. Like I said, this cap is non-existent with non-relic equipment, so I think it shouldn't exist in relics either.
Thanks for trying to help though!
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Player X (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 1, 2019, 1:36 p.m.
It's very difficult to reach those caps though...after spending millions of coins on the smithy (I'm lg lvl 7) and after getting about 20 gems so far I think against castle lords I can only reach about 110% CY bonus and about 125% unit bonuses. When comparing that to the Master Sumoner with CY bonus of 120% and 110% unit bounus this is not a very significant increase.
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Putte Kalsong (SKN1) [SKN1]
:: Aug. 7, 2019, 10:51 a.m.
the first time 100,000 coins. the second time 134,113 coins. hope they redo it so everyone can join


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Player X (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 7, 2019, 4:55 p.m.
I agree-this upgrade system is far too expensive for a mere 0.1% per upgrade. Even the technicus, which costs millions to get a single item upgraded would only cost a fraction of this-especially as 50 upgrades are available! Please reduce the price.
Apart from the exorbitant price I think this new system is a great idea and well implemented, and a great way of using relic shards.
Apart from the exorbitant price I think this new system is a great idea and well implemented, and a great way of using relic shards.
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Putte Kalsong (SKN1) [SKN1]
:: Aug. 7, 2019, 7:40 p.m.
yes it is a fine
but to relic the tool to lvl 5 cost 80k iron coal olives and glass. It is way too much...
ggs what are you thinking of ? you keep on and on and on destroying the game
but to relic the tool to lvl 5 cost 80k iron coal olives and glass. It is way too much...
ggs what are you thinking of ? you keep on and on and on destroying the game