Forum: empire-en
Board: [584] Players ask Players
Topic: [376429] the bully's in this game
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Wasso (INT3) [INT3]
:: Aug. 28, 2020, 9:50 p.m.
I am no fan of bullying. But, what is done in this game TYPICALLY does not meet that that word.
Again, if you are being VERBALLY ABUSED in the game, press the ignore button and report it to support.
As for THIS comment:
Post what you are referring to.......
Again, if you are being VERBALLY ABUSED in the game, press the ignore button and report it to support.
As for THIS comment:
Here are the T&C's: https://goodgamestudios.com/terms-of-service/gazz65 (GB1) said:it's in gge rules about having a fair server were you can play in good environment not in bad one.
so if these players are having bad time gge should do something but they won't .
Post what you are referring to.......
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 30, 2020, 9:58 p.m.
Message edited by a moderator.
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 30, 2020, 10:44 p.m.
Message edited by a moderator.
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 30, 2020, 10:56 p.m.
Message edited by a moderator.Imperius (GB1) said:I'm being bullied by Cetan7, Bruins and Sack Hak any advice @gazz65 (GB1)?
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Wasso (INT3) [INT3]
:: Aug. 30, 2020, 11:35 p.m.
@gazz65 (GB1) I am not going to quote your message in my reply, so the Mods have one fewer to edit.
If what you say was messaged to anyone, the answer is to press the ignore button and report the person to support. Place the message in your archive to present as proof to support.
The act of taking anyone's outpost is a game action and 100% allowed. For that, you make it harder for them to do so, or you retaliate by taking it back. You can go to war as well, if you like.......
If what you say was messaged to anyone, the answer is to press the ignore button and report the person to support. Place the message in your archive to present as proof to support.
The act of taking anyone's outpost is a game action and 100% allowed. For that, you make it harder for them to do so, or you retaliate by taking it back. You can go to war as well, if you like.......
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Imperius (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 12:11 a.m.
@gazz65 (GB1)
Accusing a person of those claims without any proof is disgusting, I have never said anything like that to Carol or anyone you can message her yourself and find out the true story, None of this supposed BS was said on the game but Skype so again come up with facts before falsely accusing me of doing something I had no involvement in, Ask anyone and you'll find out the type of person I am, I burn nonces out of the game lmao to accuse me of being one is rich.
This is the Praetorian way now being scummy spewing BS about players.
Also, Sack Hak getting reset soon : D
Accusing a person of those claims without any proof is disgusting, I have never said anything like that to Carol or anyone you can message her yourself and find out the true story, None of this supposed BS was said on the game but Skype so again come up with facts before falsely accusing me of doing something I had no involvement in, Ask anyone and you'll find out the type of person I am, I burn nonces out of the game lmao to accuse me of being one is rich.
This is the Praetorian way now being scummy spewing BS about players.
Also, Sack Hak getting reset soon : D
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Akasha (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 12:12 a.m.
Hi @gazz65 (GB1), please don’t talk to my alliance members like that or you’ll force our hand and make us drop Carol’s ops instead of returning them! Have a GOOD day : )
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flug (NL1) [NL1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 6:36 a.m.
:):):):):) this is not about the topic bullying this is topic accusing eachother so find another place to accuse eachoter [5143538]
JIMIX (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 8:30 a.m.
are there any images we can see? would helpgazz65 (GB1) said:dirty pervert disgustingImperius (GB1) said:I'm being bullied by Cetan7, Bruins and Sack Hak any advice @gazz65 (GB1)?
asking for pics and vids of a woman gge do nowt . please dont come back and say multi your a full on pervert
you and your alliance big al pervert dominika9 pervert J-S full on pervert .
bunch of freaks
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Iberian Knight (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 5:26 p.m.
Hi all, first visit on the forum for quite some time now. I am not here to take sides in the above argument which some would just take as an excuse for personal insults or spurious accusations but I am here purely to make the following point'
Yes, taking of Outposts forcibly from an active player is within the game mechanics as is multiple hits from close range in the small hours with extra bought waves and when those hits fail to keep sending until a win is achieved, some may say scummy behaviour but within the mechanics of the game so although people my have the hump with it not much officially to be said.
What takes the matter that huge step further and into the realms of various criminal offences (if true, I'll come back to that point later), is using the seizing of an active players Outposts as a bargaining chip to demand actions such as entry to a skype group for instance, to demand £50 cash to drop the Outposts for instance, to demand topless and/or nude photo's in return for dropping the Outpost captures for instance.
This is not bullying it is well beyond the realms of bullying this is blackmail (demanding money/property/services with menaces), it also is an offence of malicious communication, both under UK law (I'm positive that both the EU and German legislation will have similarly worded offences on the statute books). Both of the above are criminal offences.
I am aware that all the above matters have been reported to gge (following on from the point made by gazz above I am also sceptical as to what if any gge action will follow the report but hey we may be pleasantly surprised). Now to coming back to whether the above accusations are true or not, I have seen copies of the comments both of skype and on gge's own discord social media site, both mediums will be verifiable mediums for an investigation to ensue, certainly in the case of the discord messages it is an avenue that gge will find difficult to sweep under the carpet.
The whole point is that yes, this is a war game, great some pixel nastiness is to be expected especially from keyboard warriors that perhaps lack the moral fibre to stick up for themselves in their real lives, maybe some of these miscreants have run out of spiders to pull the legs from or flies to swat but yes they are more than capable of spending lots of money of dubious origin (just look around at the amount of accounts that end up with long term promode due to charge-backs or the financial cards used real owners reporting fraud), and bashing your pixel castles and troops with their considerably larger pixel collections and that it seems is the way of the world and this game. Does it need to be done with the associated nastiness and law breaking and more to the point here against gge terms and conditions? No, of course it doesn't, will it continue? Yes it will because gge will let the main perpetrators off with a virtual slap on the wrist. These matters should be reported to the law authorities both in the country that the server provides a service in but also in Germany where the servers are housed.
International law agreements generally mean that the country where the "victim" resides has precedence for prosecution but it can also be the country where the "offender" is located.
You will notice that I have not named any names here and just explored that situation that has actually occurred, I will not post screenshots either as it would be prejudicial to a gge and law enforcement agency investigations. Those that have been involved in perpetrating these acts know who they are and in my personal opinion should hang their heads in shame, will they? No, they will view it all a laugh and a joke and virtually be slapping each other on their backs, congratulating each other in putting another nail in the coffin of this game.
GGE, get your act together and for once do the correct thing and remove the ability of these alleged perpetrators to do anything similar again, this is not a minor case of abuse, there are some serious offences here/.
Oh, just as an aside, I note the comments of Akasha above regarding returning the "victims'" Outposts, how did that go? Did that happen or not?
Take care all
Regards
IK gge addict for the past 7 years
Yes, taking of Outposts forcibly from an active player is within the game mechanics as is multiple hits from close range in the small hours with extra bought waves and when those hits fail to keep sending until a win is achieved, some may say scummy behaviour but within the mechanics of the game so although people my have the hump with it not much officially to be said.
What takes the matter that huge step further and into the realms of various criminal offences (if true, I'll come back to that point later), is using the seizing of an active players Outposts as a bargaining chip to demand actions such as entry to a skype group for instance, to demand £50 cash to drop the Outposts for instance, to demand topless and/or nude photo's in return for dropping the Outpost captures for instance.
This is not bullying it is well beyond the realms of bullying this is blackmail (demanding money/property/services with menaces), it also is an offence of malicious communication, both under UK law (I'm positive that both the EU and German legislation will have similarly worded offences on the statute books). Both of the above are criminal offences.
I am aware that all the above matters have been reported to gge (following on from the point made by gazz above I am also sceptical as to what if any gge action will follow the report but hey we may be pleasantly surprised). Now to coming back to whether the above accusations are true or not, I have seen copies of the comments both of skype and on gge's own discord social media site, both mediums will be verifiable mediums for an investigation to ensue, certainly in the case of the discord messages it is an avenue that gge will find difficult to sweep under the carpet.
The whole point is that yes, this is a war game, great some pixel nastiness is to be expected especially from keyboard warriors that perhaps lack the moral fibre to stick up for themselves in their real lives, maybe some of these miscreants have run out of spiders to pull the legs from or flies to swat but yes they are more than capable of spending lots of money of dubious origin (just look around at the amount of accounts that end up with long term promode due to charge-backs or the financial cards used real owners reporting fraud), and bashing your pixel castles and troops with their considerably larger pixel collections and that it seems is the way of the world and this game. Does it need to be done with the associated nastiness and law breaking and more to the point here against gge terms and conditions? No, of course it doesn't, will it continue? Yes it will because gge will let the main perpetrators off with a virtual slap on the wrist. These matters should be reported to the law authorities both in the country that the server provides a service in but also in Germany where the servers are housed.
International law agreements generally mean that the country where the "victim" resides has precedence for prosecution but it can also be the country where the "offender" is located.
You will notice that I have not named any names here and just explored that situation that has actually occurred, I will not post screenshots either as it would be prejudicial to a gge and law enforcement agency investigations. Those that have been involved in perpetrating these acts know who they are and in my personal opinion should hang their heads in shame, will they? No, they will view it all a laugh and a joke and virtually be slapping each other on their backs, congratulating each other in putting another nail in the coffin of this game.
GGE, get your act together and for once do the correct thing and remove the ability of these alleged perpetrators to do anything similar again, this is not a minor case of abuse, there are some serious offences here/.
Oh, just as an aside, I note the comments of Akasha above regarding returning the "victims'" Outposts, how did that go? Did that happen or not?
Take care all
Regards
IK gge addict for the past 7 years
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Imperius (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 7:57 p.m.
Breaking international laws over a browser game I can't be arsed reading that long BS post amazing that you took the time to write that lol good to see you back on the forums IK.
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Akasha (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 7:59 p.m.
Bruh all of our 'demands' were jokes, the Outpost flags were never going to be pulled lolYes, taking of Outposts forcibly from an active player is within the game mechanics as is multiple hits from close range in the small hours with extra bought waves and when those hits fail to keep sending until a win is achieved, some may say scummy behaviour but within the mechanics of the game so although people my have the hump with it not much officially to be said.
What takes the matter that huge step further and into the realms of various criminal offences (if true, I'll come back to that point later), is using the seizing of an active players Outposts as a bargaining chip to demand actions such as entry to a skype group for instance, to demand £50 cash to drop the Outposts for instance, to demand topless and/or nude photo's in return for dropping the Outpost captures for instance.
This is not bullying it is well beyond the realms of bullying this is blackmail (demanding money/property/services with menaces), it also is an offence of malicious communication, both under UK law (I'm positive that both the EU and German legislation will have similarly worded offences on the statute books). Both of the above are criminal offences.
GGE, get your act together and for once do the correct thing and remove the ability of these alleged perpetrators to do anything similar again, this is not a minor case of abuse, there are some serious offences here/.
Oh, just as an aside, I note the comments of Akasha above regarding returning the "victims'" Outposts, how did that go? Did that happen or not?
Take care all
Regards
IK gge addict for the past 7 years
Stop taking the internet so seriously
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Imperius (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 8:01 p.m.
What Akasha says is correct it was all banter from young blokes 'negotiating' for the release of outposts for 20 hours straight Carol should've realised those ops weren't being returned we dropped impossible demands to get a reaction out of Gondor, not our fault people don't see the funny in it yall take the diplomacy room too seriously and forget that this is just a game with pixels also this is why everyone laughs at the UK server over BS claims to bring in international laws.
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Iberian Knight (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 8:38 p.m.
Hi Imperious,
It's not BS, whether it was intended as a joke or not is irrelevant, they read as demands made with menaces like I said I have seen the demands and the fact that they were made to the player whose Ops were taken and the fact she was promised them back if those demands were met fulfil the criteria for a criminal act.
You sum it up very nicely when you say this is a game so how about we see it as a game and do without the personalised nastiness that seems to be prevalent in certain alliances purveyed by certain players.
I think the reason why pvp is a dying art form is because of the associated nastiness, and in my experience it is the alliances that push the boundaries in an alleged crusade to "bring back pvp" are the ones that get the most arsey when someone has the temerity to attack them back in a similar vein or indeed in anyway at all.
There is no easy answer to the way that the uk and other servers are going but in my opinion ramping up the nastiness and piss taking to such a personal level tends not to end very well in the end, we go round and round, ask previous members of illuminati, the various bsk's, uknighted, cg )more than once), odins...... we are destined to run round the hamster wheel and we learn no lessons from history.....Ego's rule in this game, not many of the ego's that want world domination tend to stick around too long, they burn bright and fade away.
The ego's that have the tendency to piss off the most players in this game are the ones that employ dodgy tactics, shell/multi accounts that are born then used to further those dodgy tactics obviously controlled by the aforementioned ago's. There is always some collateral damage as those real dodgy multi/shell/proxy accounts attract a certain amount of "real" players attracted by the sheen of temporarily being the "best" before the empire implodes/is beaten/is replaced by the next group of dodgy ego's and round we go again lol.............
Akasha, cheers for the response also, I'm not really down with the street talk, so not sure if your use of "bruh" is complimentary or not lol. For now I'm going to take it as being friendly so thanks for the friendly words of advice "bruh"
Take care
IK
It's not BS, whether it was intended as a joke or not is irrelevant, they read as demands made with menaces like I said I have seen the demands and the fact that they were made to the player whose Ops were taken and the fact she was promised them back if those demands were met fulfil the criteria for a criminal act.
You sum it up very nicely when you say this is a game so how about we see it as a game and do without the personalised nastiness that seems to be prevalent in certain alliances purveyed by certain players.
I think the reason why pvp is a dying art form is because of the associated nastiness, and in my experience it is the alliances that push the boundaries in an alleged crusade to "bring back pvp" are the ones that get the most arsey when someone has the temerity to attack them back in a similar vein or indeed in anyway at all.
There is no easy answer to the way that the uk and other servers are going but in my opinion ramping up the nastiness and piss taking to such a personal level tends not to end very well in the end, we go round and round, ask previous members of illuminati, the various bsk's, uknighted, cg )more than once), odins...... we are destined to run round the hamster wheel and we learn no lessons from history.....Ego's rule in this game, not many of the ego's that want world domination tend to stick around too long, they burn bright and fade away.
The ego's that have the tendency to piss off the most players in this game are the ones that employ dodgy tactics, shell/multi accounts that are born then used to further those dodgy tactics obviously controlled by the aforementioned ago's. There is always some collateral damage as those real dodgy multi/shell/proxy accounts attract a certain amount of "real" players attracted by the sheen of temporarily being the "best" before the empire implodes/is beaten/is replaced by the next group of dodgy ego's and round we go again lol.............
Akasha, cheers for the response also, I'm not really down with the street talk, so not sure if your use of "bruh" is complimentary or not lol. For now I'm going to take it as being friendly so thanks for the friendly words of advice "bruh"
Take care
IK
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Iberian Knight (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 8:48 p.m.
Anyway, spoke my piece for what it's worth, I'm returning under my rock now lol, see you all in a couple of years 
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Imperius (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 9:37 p.m.
I'm gonna be blunt do you boomers have nothing better to do than talk smack to a bunch of kids over something they said on the internet in a browser game I don't see the point in these long ass posts no-one with a brain is going to read them especially when the same people just post the same BS on alt accounts either mass declare on us or sit there and wait to be wiped that's the only two options you have now we play the game how we want no made-up rules are going to stop us if we've broken ToS send a ticket in and see what happens.
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gazz65 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 10:44 p.m.
changing tune now , like i posted before musks are bunch of perverts kids or adults whatever.Imperius (GB1) said:I'm gonna be blunt do you boomers have nothing better to do than talk smack to a bunch of kids over something they said on the internet in a browser game I don't see the point in these long ass posts no-one with a brain is going to read them especially when the same people just post the same BS on alt accounts either mass declare on us or sit there and wait to be wiped that's the only two options you have now we play the game how we want no made-up rules are going to stop us if we've broken ToS send a ticket in and see what happens.
mouth as much as you like we all know how bad you are as for shells jt strange carol69 carol70 pop up in musks and take carols ops. lmfho and you say others are dodgy.. whole musks alliance is full of shells kaci shell castle 777 shell
topsy trailblazer shells ran by hak . hakwhocantrememberhisname total dodgy account but as normal GOODGAMEGREED do nothing
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Imperius (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 11:23 p.m.
You and your Praet bum buddies can keep liking each other's posts but again it's all BS keep calling us perverted kids to see where that gets you as far as I'm concerned you lot haven't provided a single bit of proof and yet you accuse of disgusting things while you yourself Gazz have made two shells by the names of Biga and Gray16 so pipe down.
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Akasha (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 11:24 p.m.
For a level 29 you talk too muchNewBlood (GB1) said:Well, well. Another fine mess Imperius the curse is up to his neck in. Now quickly backpeddling as are other in the musketeers trying to say they were having a laugh and joke. Very, very sad, and sick people, trolling on other players fears and may I say, a wee bit worried that this time they may have gone a bit too far.Its time that GGE did stand up to these trolls and sick players that the Musketeers really are, and bring some normality, back to the server, and be seen to do it, no matter what they spend. They need to look at these types of posts and see just who are the ones hiding behind VPN's, and are in most of these posts, over and over again, stirring and winding up normal players, until they react to their sick sense of humour, and sarcastic and false comments. I think just looking at forum threads like this will give more than an ample begining for GGE and investigation to begin with. These trolls just cannot help themselves, no more than they can resist siding with each other. There is also a deeper side to this subject that GGE really need to look into, and if they look closely at many of the posts, it should become apparent, as should the timescale involved.I see a moderator has edited some posts by one player, but left one that infers a clear involvement in what has transpired, as well as including a clear threat, as to what will happen if the alliance, or that player (akasha) is pushed. I don't see that as a joke, and probably others reading it will also see it as a threat, as to don't mess with us or else.This has been the whole concept of the current Musketeers action within the game. We will do, what we want, when we want, and to who we want.All of course under the guise of the gameplay.A quick point out to GGE and support. You have to consider your obligations to people playing your game. These are, that under the law you DO have an obligation to the wellbeing and welfare of people participating in your game. You will say no, but these obligations in your case are those that refers to the mental health of players. These laws were brought into being to protect vunerable and young people in chat rooms, and games, from some of those players currently active in this game. If GGE do not control these actions and comments especially those likely to cause anxiety, and worry to players mental wellbeing, then they are in breach of those international laws.You cannot simply say it was a joke, after the fact, as the written txt only shows the intent, and meaning at the time written, and can cause harm, and worry to those vunerable people.All agruments in relation to this subject have been made in courts in various country's by more learned people than those here, so the guidlines are laid down for GGE to follow. There are players still active in this game that similar complaints have been made about previously, and they are still here and active, and thats the shame of GGE. They now need to clean their own house, and follow the threads and leads to those responsible, so that the game becomes that, once again, and not this dark place used as a troll playground by these players we all know are involved.THINK ON, GGE how do you know how many, or what youngsters, or vunerable players have already been affected, and are in the grasp of these sick players that have run similar scams on them. Nows the time to act.To other players reading this, if you value your game and want this stopped, then send a ticket to GGE support.
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Imperius (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 31, 2020, 11:29 p.m.
The ones accusing us of shite are Praetorians shells we know that for a fact plus the other 20 in Praetorians themselves if you wanna do something do so in-game don't send a mass of words I probably won't read it.