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Topic: [78670] Barbarian Fortress --hugh lost

[-78670] Conqueror9 [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 12:11 a.m.
i test to hit Barbarian Fortress

i get hugh lost...nearly all army fallen ;(:cursing::(

213 soldier ..down to 55 soldier

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any 1 know

how to hit barbarian Fortress ??

[1405350] T_PACK [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 12:20 a.m.
Use more troops and more tools, you used only 5 tools! Did you do an espionage on it?? And what kind of troops were you using?

- T_PACK

[1405395] xJadetsssx [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 1:06 a.m.
you attacked the 3 sections, that is an error also, you didnt use enough tools and we don't know what kind of troops did you used.

[1405417] JJ5542 [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 1:55 a.m.
The first thing is what troops did you use....

[1405454] Conqueror9 [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 4:33 a.m.
my strongest soldier

"2hands" and "heavy crossbow"

that is y i ask for my advice becos they a strongest soldier i have
..ahhhh.. becos i do not have plenty...so 80% are they, 20 % a crossbowmen..etc

i espionage b4, i think...not too hard...
all tools are mantlet .....

[1405459] xJadetsssx [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 4:45 a.m.
with fortresses with tools you need
18 ladders and 9 rams
Left flank: 100% melee soldiers, with 9 ladders
Middle section: (if you can 100% melee or try using more melee than ranged) with 9 ladders and 9 rams.
in the remaining waves, send more soldiers so you have more numbers and therefore power in the keep fight.

[1405462] Conqueror9 [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 5:13 a.m.
xJadetsssx wrote: »
with fortresses with tools you need
18 ladders and 9 rams
Left flank: 100% melee soldiers, with 9 ladders
Middle section: (if you can 100% melee or try using more melee than ranged) with 9 ladders and 9 rams.
in the remaining waves, send more soldiers so you have more numbers and therefore power in the keep fight.

left side and right side ..21 soldier
fronter .. 63 soldier

wave 1
left : 100% melee...imply 21 soldiers with 9 ladder
fronter: 100% melee .. imply 63 soldier with 9 ladder + 9 ram
wave 2 21+63 soldier
wave 3 21+63 soldier

so it is (21+63)X 3 = 84 x 3 = 252 soldiers ...that is hugh volume...i need to cap more food village to feed them

Melee ---> macemen , 2hands...
252 2hands..that is a big volume !!!

can
wave 1 be 2hands
wave 2 and 3 be macemen

i espionage b4, left, fronter and right ..all has flamming arrow...look like what i have put in my wall and gate
that is y i bring mantlet instead of ladder...
left. right and fronter..stone throwing 25%..gate 35%

[1405465] xJadetsssx [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 5:16 a.m.
With that set up I lose around 40 soldiers only, you can send less if you dont have too many, it is just my suggestion ^...^

[1405528] Conqueror9 [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 8:38 a.m.
xJadetsssx wrote: »
With that set up I lose around 40 soldiers only, you can send less if you dont have too many, it is just my suggestion ^...^

thanks for that info

i suppose u agree

wave 1 is 84 2hands
wave 2 and 3 are both macemen

this will be easy to gather than gathering 252 2hands

[1405662] BobFighter834 (INT2) [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 2:31 p.m.
Conqueror9 wrote: »
thanks for that info

i suppose u agree

wave 1 is 84 2hands
wave 2 and 3 are both macemen

this will be easy to gather than gathering 252 2hands

No.
No.
Definitely not.

Okay, yes, 84 2HS in the first wave. Then as many 2HS (or HCB) as you've got. But NOT macemen or crossbowmen. They are less than half as powerful as 2HS or HCB, but consume half the food.

No-one ever said you had to fill all the waves. FYI, you wouldn't be able to anyway. You look like you're too low a level to get the final wave. Just stuff as much as you've got in. I'd say that anything above 150 total troops (with at least 60% melee) is great. While 252 2HS would be ideal, it's not going to happen if you've not got the food supply.

[1405725] T_PACK [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 6:13 p.m.
No.
No.
Definitely not.

Okay, yes, 84 2HS in the first wave. Then as many 2HS (or HCB) as you've got. But NOT macemen or crossbowmen. They are less than half as powerful as 2HS or HCB, but consume half the food.

No-one ever said you had to fill all the waves. FYI, you wouldn't be able to anyway. You look like you're too low a level to get the final wave. Just stuff as much as you've got in. I'd say that anything above 150 total troops (with at least 60% melee) is great. While 252 2HS would be ideal, it's not going to happen if you've not got the food supply.

My question would be could you still win with crossbowman and macemen in the second and 3rd waves? Cause I'm a Landgrave, and I get 30% off on both troops, so if I could win with them it would be worth it.

- T_PACK

[1405727] BobFighter834 (INT2) [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 6:31 p.m.
T_PACK wrote: »
My question would be could you still win with crossbowman and macemen in the second and 3rd waves? Cause I'm a Landgrave, and I get 30% off on both troops, so if I could win with them it would be worth it.

- T_PACK

I'd imagine that you *could* win without anything in the 3rd wave. But regardless of glory rank, it's not a good idea. Especially not if you're looking into the future and wanting this to be sustainable or even a good tip for your high level alliance friends. Once you unlock veterans, you won't physically be able to recruit any more maces/crossbows (they would be replaced by the much stronger veteran equivalents) so the plan would fall apart.

[1405751] T_PACK [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 7:26 p.m.
I'd imagine that you *could* win without anything in the 3rd wave. But regardless of glory rank, it's not a good idea. Especially not if you're looking into the future and wanting this to be sustainable or even a good tip for your high level alliance friends. Once you unlock veterans, you won't physically be able to recruit any more maces/crossbows (they would be replaced by the much stronger veteran equivalents) so the plan would fall apart.

OK, but with 100 2HS and 50 HC it should be fine? I could later attack with more troops, but I could use some coins to help grow my army for the future.

- T_PACK

[1405755] BobFighter834 (INT2) [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 7:45 p.m.
T_PACK wrote: »
OK, but with 100 2HS and 50 HC it should be fine?

Yes, it should be enough. I'm not 100% sure though and you'll lose quite a few - you lose 40 even with the best attack.

[1405787] T_PACK [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 8:47 p.m.
Yes, it should be enough. I'm not 100% sure though and you'll lose quite a few - you lose 40 even with the best attack.

Ok thx for the heads up.

- T_PACK

[1405789] xJadetsssx [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 8:53 p.m.
T_PACK wrote: »
OK, but with 100 2HS and 50 HC it should be fine? I could later attack with more troops, but I could use some coins to help grow my army for the future.

- T_PACK

That should be more than okay, I was stupid enough to send only one wave of soldiers to a fortress (I forgot to send the other ones) and I won ^...^

[1405851] Matata [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 10:44 p.m.
xJadetsssx wrote: »
with fortresses with tools you need
18 ladders and 9 rams
Left flank: 100% melee soldiers, with 9 ladders
Middle section: (if you can 100% melee or try using more melee than ranged) with 9 ladders and 9 rams.
in the remaining waves, send more soldiers so you have more numbers and therefore power in the keep fight.


This may be a stupid question... but why would I send 9 ladder on the LF when the wall is only 25% (that is 3 ladders)

And 9 ladders and 9 rams to the front when the wall there is 25% (3 ladders) and the gate is 35% (4 rams)

This seems like I am sending way to many tools

[1405852] xJadetsssx [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 10:51 p.m.
Matata wrote: »
This may be a stupid question... but why would I send 9 ladder on the LF when the wall is only 25% (that is 3 ladders)

And 9 ladders and 9 rams to the front when the wall there is 25% (3 ladders) and the gate is 35% (4 rams)

This seems like I am sending way to many tools

Because the fotresses with tools have 2 stone throwing and 1 flaming arrows.

25 + 25 + 40 = 90% and in the middle the same with gate and wall.
The game don't show the bonus correctly.

[1405854] Matata [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 10:58 p.m.
wow That was a quick response.

Ok I understand that. but when I am setting up the defense on my castle it tells me

"only one defense tool can be used per wave of attack"

Does this mean it is using 3 slots?

[1405863] xJadetsssx [None] :: Oct. 19, 2012, 11:07 p.m.
Matata wrote: »
wow That was a quick response.

Ok I understand that. but when I am setting up the defense on my castle it tells me

"only one defense tool can be used per wave of attack"

Does this mean it is using 3 slots?

When I attack I win in the first wave, and the fortress uses 3 tools so yes, it uses the three slots.