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Forum: empire-en
Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion
Topic: [104791] The principles about defense
[4175928] Cobalt_Fusion (US1) [None] :: Oct. 27, 2015, 3:52 a.m.
Nice Guide!!!
[4175929] SKINK (AU1) [None] :: Oct. 27, 2015, 3:53 a.m.
Very informative...But thanks to my alliance they pretty much told me everything I need to know about defence and attacking :)
[4178165] fujiwara (GB1) [GB1] :: Oct. 28, 2015, 5:49 p.m.
adamwasmo (US1) said:
This is what i have learned from my time playing, even though i haven't been playing all that long, my alliance has helped me with this.  The ideal defense is 100 melee/0/0.  This way, mantlets are completely useless, and melee soldiers can still hold the wall vs ranged ones if need be.  This is 99% the way to go, unless they send all ranged and no tools, in which case, go 100 ranged.
Offline this is a good way to burn. Going 100% melee means the attacker can just send belfs/boulds and walk over your defenses (perhaps with some shield walls thrown in on waves 3 and 4 just in case you're around). Obviously if you're online you can switch up nicely, but this discussion isn't about tailored defenses to specific attacks when the player is online.
[4178406] swayerjai2798 (US1) [None] :: Oct. 28, 2015, 9:27 p.m.
Try to do your defense set up 0/0/100 or 100/0/0. It will not only cause the attacks to lose power, but it keeps all your troops in one location and you dont need to think about where they are.
[4178482] Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None] :: Oct. 28, 2015, 11:42 p.m.
swayerjai2798 (US1) said:
Try to do your defense set up 0/0/100 or 100/0/0. It will not only cause the attacks to lose power, but it keeps all your troops in one location and you dont need to think about where they are.
Also a good way to burn.

98-1-1
[4179748] bobjoerock (US1) [None] :: Oct. 29, 2015, 10:35 p.m.
go 100-0-0 98-1-1 just burn tools
they 100% wipe out the 1 percent flanks then you have 100% v 98% on the one flank 
[4181239] Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None] :: Oct. 30, 2015, 9 p.m.
bobjoerock (US1) said:
go 100-0-0 98-1-1 just burn tools
they 100% wipe out the 1 percent flanks then you have 100% v 98% on the one flank 
Exactly.

98-1-1 makes you a less desirable target.

People don't like wasting tools.

Especially ruby buyers, which gives you even more of an advantage; it discourages ruby buyers from attacking you.
[4181360] bobjoerock (US1) [None] :: Oct. 30, 2015, 10:23 p.m.
not in times of war 
[4181460] adamwasmo (US1) [None] :: Oct. 31, 2015, 12:15 a.m.
np.  any time u nd help w/ defenses u cn ask me
[4181471] Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None] :: Oct. 31, 2015, 12:35 a.m.
bobjoerock (US1) said:
not in times of war 
yes especially in times of war.

do you even realize how much rubies of the enemy you can waste?

also, it's only about 8 troops AT THE MOST that you're wasting.


[4182177] bobjoerock (US1) [None] :: Oct. 31, 2015, 5:13 p.m.
the attacker  will not send tools on that flank, 8 men can mean losing that flank and the attacker getting +30cy 
[4182472] Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None] :: Oct. 31, 2015, 9:15 p.m.
bobjoerock (US1) said:
the attacker  will not send tools on that flank, 8 men can mean losing that flank and the attacker getting +30cy 
oh yes he will.

unless he wants to risk getting destroyed at the walls, he will.

[4182648] bobjoerock (US1) [None] :: Nov. 1, 2015, 12:26 a.m.
you go 98-1-1
go full with tools full with no tools full with no tools, 
you have about 30-second horn due to god commo+ruby horse so you have no time for support or change 
[4182700] Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None] :: Nov. 1, 2015, 2:50 a.m.
bobjoerock (US1) said:
you go 98-1-1
go full with tools full with no tools full with no tools, 
you have about 30-second horn due to god commo+ruby horse so you have no time for support or change 
then I'm screwed, whether its 98-1-1 or 100-0-0

Though I don't think I'll be hit with a god com at level 35 :)

on another note, I've seen god com, they generally only give 30 second horn if they're also using assassins and demon slayers with minimum 60 speed (meaning no mantlets).

[4182722] bobjoerock (US1) [None] :: Nov. 1, 2015, 4:07 a.m.
ruby mantlets speed is 45 or 60 i have stopped a god comm because i went 100-0-0 prevent the 30% CY bonus, the 100% flank after 5 waves had 4 troops left if i went 98-1-1 i would lose that flank, 
[4183742] Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None] :: Nov. 2, 2015, 12:09 a.m.
bobjoerock (US1) said:
ruby mantlets speed is 45 or 60 i have stopped a god comm because i went 100-0-0 prevent the 30% CY bonus, the 100% flank after 5 waves had 4 troops left if i went 98-1-1 i would lose that flank, 
Wrong.

The armorers mantlets (shield walls) which are fastest have 28 speed.

Ruby (iron mantlets) have 22 speed.

Wood mantlets 15.

[4183775] bobjoerock (US1) [None] :: Nov. 2, 2015, 2:28 a.m.
sorry about that then god comm plus ruby horse + gems 
[4183779] Petyr Baelish (IN1) [None] :: Nov. 2, 2015, 2:53 a.m.
bobjoerock (US1) said:
sorry about that then god comm plus ruby horse + gems 
there are no gems that affect attack travel speed, only return speed.

God com plus ruby horse probably would shorten the warning time to... well, even 2 minutes would be enough to change 
defense strategy.
[4184761] bobjoerock (US1) [None] :: Nov. 2, 2015, 8:34 p.m.
still you will get hit hard we can agree on that, it takes a lot of troops/ good cast/or just being on online( depending on the attack) a full 6 wave super god comm will roll over nearly anything in its way.