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[-372720] Experiment_626 (US1) [US1] :: April 9, 2020, 1:55 p.m.

Quicklime Bombs are basically the new necessity when it comes to defending with relics now. It would be nice if you could also purchase these from the Master Blacksmith instead of having to wait for a special offer to come through.

[5111223] Dudester (INT1) [INT1] :: April 9, 2020, 4:53 p.m.

Necessity? People can hold around 1000 troops on the wall without defensive hall with that silly 40% courtyard 20% wall limit look item. For quick lime bombs to be available to everyone so easily would not be a good idea.

[5111226] Experiment_626 (US1) [US1] :: April 9, 2020, 4:55 p.m.

The Winged Knight is outdated against a nicely set relic commander.

[5111228] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: April 9, 2020, 4:58 p.m.

Dudester (INT1) said:

Necessity? People can hold around 1000 troops on the wall without defensive hall with that silly 40% courtyard 20% wall limit look item. For quick lime bombs to be available to everyone so easily would not be a good idea.

I would welcome the opportunity to get some quicklimes. It seems the offers for them only go to those who have purchased Rubies...…...

[5111238] Dudester (INT1) [INT1] :: April 9, 2020, 5:32 p.m.

Experiment_626 (US1) said:

The Winged Knight is outdated against a nicely set relic commander.

I was referring to relic casts, not the winged knight.Wasso (INT3) said:

Dudester (INT1) said:

Necessity? People can hold around 1000 troops on the wall without defensive hall with that silly 40% courtyard 20% wall limit look item. For quick lime bombs to be available to everyone so easily would not be a good idea.

I would welcome the opportunity to get some quicklimes. It seems the offers for them only go to those who have purchased Rubies...…...

I don't think it'll be good for anyone. Sure you can defend better, but your attacks get worse. You only need those quicklimes if you want to defend 6+ waves but, remember that defending always has an advantage over attacking. Let's say you get 100k defence in a castle and that 9 waver beats the wall, that's maybe 4k dead? Now lets say the defender has quicklimes and now the 9 waver doesn't beat the wall, that's like 2k dead from the 100k. I think that why my argument comes from, the fact that even if you lose the wall you still come out 'positive' providing that you have enough defence in the courtyard.

basically, it would break the 'balance' between attacking and defending even more.

[5111239] Experiment_626 (US1) [US1] :: April 9, 2020, 5:59 p.m.

I've seen big spenders have 6k + quicklimes in each castle. Why not help those out, who don't spend as much, the opportunity to have quicklimes in a war?

[5111240] Dudester (INT1) [INT1] :: April 9, 2020, 6:06 p.m.

Because it makes it even harder to attack? Attacking has a disadvantage, why make the disadvantage even greater.

[5111243] Experiment_626 (US1) [US1] :: April 9, 2020, 6:13 p.m.

There are plenty of players out there who don't have the best defenses. Either way, I'f I want to hit someone, I will hit them if they have quicklimes or not.

[5111246] Dudester (INT1) [INT1] :: April 9, 2020, 6:16 p.m.

But there are plenty who do. Hit all you want, but if quicklimes are implanted the less you, and everyone, will want to hit since you wont break the wall in any hit. I'm just saying how it is.

[5111250] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: April 9, 2020, 6:24 p.m.

Dudester (INT1) said:

Because it makes it even harder to attack? Attacking has a disadvantage, why make the disadvantage even greater.

The disadvantage is to the person who cannot defend to the same level as those who CAN avail themselves of the quicklimes. For those who are in a large Alliance and can get 60k+ in the CY, the walls really don't matter as much. Sure it would take longer in a full scale war, but for the occasional PvP, you can put trash tools up and rely on the large mass of Def. For those of us who are not in those types of Alliances, the ability to get the quicklimes would help quite a bit.

And yes, I also hit players who have quicklimes up on their wall. When they don't get support, I even win them....

[5111252] Dudester (INT1) [INT1] :: April 9, 2020, 6:30 p.m.

Wasso (INT3) said:

Dudester (INT1) said:

Because it makes it even harder to attack? Attacking has a disadvantage, why make the disadvantage even greater.

The disadvantage is to the person who cannot defend to the same level as those who CAN avail themselves of the quicklimes. For those who are in a large Alliance and can get 60k+ in the CY, the walls really don't matter as much. Sure it would take longer in a full scale war, but for the occasional PvP, you can put trash tools up and rely on the large mass of Def. For those of us who are not in those types of Alliances, the ability to get the quicklimes would help quite a bit.

And yes, I also hit players who have quicklimes up on their wall. When they don't get support, I even win them....

Winning the wall matters quite a lot, it doesn't matter how many troops they have in the courtyard there is a significant and noticeable difference when winning and when not.

Thats the thing, the large majority of players do get support. It would just push people away from attacking even more as they are now, and pushed more towards events. I think the better way around this would be to make those ruby offers available to those that haven't bought rubies.

[5111269] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: April 9, 2020, 8:18 p.m.

Dudester (INT1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

Dudester (INT1) said:

Because it makes it even harder to attack? Attacking has a disadvantage, why make the disadvantage even greater.

The disadvantage is to the person who cannot defend to the same level as those who CAN avail themselves of the quicklimes. For those who are in a large Alliance and can get 60k+ in the CY, the walls really don't matter as much. Sure it would take longer in a full scale war, but for the occasional PvP, you can put trash tools up and rely on the large mass of Def. For those of us who are not in those types of Alliances, the ability to get the quicklimes would help quite a bit.

And yes, I also hit players who have quicklimes up on their wall. When they don't get support, I even win them....

Winning the wall matters quite a lot, it doesn't matter how many troops they have in the courtyard there is a significant and noticeable difference when winning and when not.

Thats the thing, the large majority of players do get support. It would just push people away from attacking even more as they are now, and pushed more towards events. I think the better way around this would be to make those ruby offers available to those that haven't bought rubies.

I will concede that the 30% difference is a noticeable amount.

Just making the items available to non-buyers would only work if they were available at a low enough Ruby cost or with other in-game currency. As I don't buy Rubies, I wouldn't have 50k to buy 10 quicklimes. Obviously, then the ruby buyers would be able to get 1000% more than I, in that case...……...

[5111271] Dudester (INT1) [INT1] :: April 9, 2020, 9:02 p.m.

Same pricing as the ones rubies players get would be better

[5111272] LegendaryKing73 (GB1) [GB1] :: April 9, 2020, 9:04 p.m.

Wasso (INT3) said:

Dudester (INT1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

Dudester (INT1) said:

Because it makes it even harder to attack? Attacking has a disadvantage, why make the disadvantage even greater.

The disadvantage is to the person who cannot defend to the same level as those who CAN avail themselves of the quicklimes. For those who are in a large Alliance and can get 60k+ in the CY, the walls really don't matter as much. Sure it would take longer in a full scale war, but for the occasional PvP, you can put trash tools up and rely on the large mass of Def. For those of us who are not in those types of Alliances, the ability to get the quicklimes would help quite a bit.

And yes, I also hit players who have quicklimes up on their wall. When they don't get support, I even win them....

Winning the wall matters quite a lot, it doesn't matter how many troops they have in the courtyard there is a significant and noticeable difference when winning and when not.

Thats the thing, the large majority of players do get support. It would just push people away from attacking even more as they are now, and pushed more towards events. I think the better way around this would be to make those ruby offers available to those that haven't bought rubies.

I will concede that the 30% difference is a noticeable amount.

Just making the items available to non-buyers would only work if they were available at a low enough Ruby cost or with other in-game currency. As I don't buy Rubies, I wouldn't have 50k to buy 10 quicklimes. Obviously, then the ruby buyers would be able to get 1000% more than I, in that case...……...

The defenders/quicklime offers come around when you hit a certain ruby amount. Whenever I get just over 1.9k of rubies through hitting towers, sure enough, when I log out and log in, I get the def + qiucklime offer.

[5111275] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: April 9, 2020, 9:19 p.m.

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

Dudester (INT1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

Dudester (INT1) said:

Because it makes it even harder to attack? Attacking has a disadvantage, why make the disadvantage even greater.

The disadvantage is to the person who cannot defend to the same level as those who CAN avail themselves of the quicklimes. For those who are in a large Alliance and can get 60k+ in the CY, the walls really don't matter as much. Sure it would take longer in a full scale war, but for the occasional PvP, you can put trash tools up and rely on the large mass of Def. For those of us who are not in those types of Alliances, the ability to get the quicklimes would help quite a bit.

And yes, I also hit players who have quicklimes up on their wall. When they don't get support, I even win them....

Winning the wall matters quite a lot, it doesn't matter how many troops they have in the courtyard there is a significant and noticeable difference when winning and when not.

Thats the thing, the large majority of players do get support. It would just push people away from attacking even more as they are now, and pushed more towards events. I think the better way around this would be to make those ruby offers available to those that haven't bought rubies.

I will concede that the 30% difference is a noticeable amount.

Just making the items available to non-buyers would only work if they were available at a low enough Ruby cost or with other in-game currency. As I don't buy Rubies, I wouldn't have 50k to buy 10 quicklimes. Obviously, then the ruby buyers would be able to get 1000% more than I, in that case...……...

The defenders/quicklime offers come around when you hit a certain ruby amount. Whenever I get just over 1.9k of rubies through hitting towers, sure enough, when I log out and log in, I get the def + qiucklime offer.

I have 3.5k, but have never bought.

Side note, I was over 10k rubies a few weeks ago. no offer was sent...…...

[5111276] Dudester (INT1) [INT1] :: April 9, 2020, 9:30 p.m.

Well if you really want them, id say its smart to invest in the smaller ruby pack there is. That way you also unlock the super spins (300 ones) and you can win a decent amount of rubies if you invest the silver coins into it. Most efficient, and cheapest way of spending while claiming the most amount of benefits.

[5111289] ImperialGuard (US1) [US1] :: April 9, 2020, 11:26 p.m.

Maybe reduce the commanders strength and increase the castellans strength?

[5111294] Experiment_626 (US1) [US1] :: April 10, 2020, 12:18 a.m.

Or allow you to purchase them with gold pieces.

[5111298] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: April 10, 2020, 2:07 a.m.

Dudester (INT1) said:

Well if you really want them, id say its smart to invest in the smaller ruby pack there is. That way you also unlock the super spins (300 ones) and you can win a decent amount of rubies if you invest the silver coins into it. Most efficient, and cheapest way of spending while claiming the most amount of benefits.

Therein lies the problem. I will not spend any money on this game. Regardless of the amount.

Experiment_626 (US1) said:

Or allow you to purchase them with gold pieces.

THIS seems reasonable. The Silver coins are quick and easy to get. I get them and send them constantly. But, the Gold ones are expected to be saved up for the better items. Let's figure out a reasonable amount per quicklime.

For the LTPE, each 50 points = next level. Level coin rewards start at 100 and go up to 700 Gold coins. All total for the first go round = 10,000 Gold Coins.

I believe 75 tabs = 2 points in regular mode. So, 1875 tabs if you got exactly 75 on each hit = 50 points. 27 levels = 50,625 tabs to complete the first book.

50,625 tabs / 10,000 Gold coins = 5.06 tabs per Gold Coin. Let's call it 5 for easy math.

I don't have the tablet cost per lime powder bomb. - Of course the Nomad tent just left, so i cant go look - But, there should be a corresponding value. I THINK you end up spending around 1000 to get 45 of them. BUT that could be off a bit. That is about 20 tabs per LPB.

IF 20 tabs = 4 gold coins = 1 LPB, then we can triple the cost for the QLB and make them 12 Gold Coins per. If you like multiples of 5, you could go down to 10 or up to 15.

I know that was very conveluted, and my math could be off somewhere......BUT, I would be willing to pay either 10 OR 15 Gold Coins per QLB if they added them to the Master Blacksmith Tent..........

[5111299] Experiment_626 (US1) [US1] :: April 10, 2020, 2:50 a.m.

It's 95 tablets for 1 lime bomb.

Even if the quicklimes cost a bit more of gold, I would still consider it worth it. You can only keep buying out Sami tools for so long.

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