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Board: [816] News from the world of Empire

Topic: [347997] Shapeshifter February Iteration

[4913775] dandelion1958 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 16, 2018, 3:24 p.m.

@BM ang1243   like someone else mentioned can you PLEASE Confirm  the Timings - CET ? GMT? or what

just so troops don't end back at main and starve all my recruits !

[4913789] Enkidu (ASIA1) [None] :: Feb. 16, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

bernhardt (US1) said:

The lag time between the runs is unacceptable.  10 hrs is an absolute joke.  I'm going to state that you've just eliminated a whole bunch of people from being able to get a ranking for that day. I can understand a reset for the top place, but the dead time is ludicrous. 

I highly suggest GGS get rid of the gargantuan lit crack pipe that apparently is in the HVAC system.  If they did that their costs would go way down, and maybe, just maybe the programmers will be lucid enough to program something good for once.

Its not difficult

Your troops teleport back to your castle... so its just the distance there, which shouldn't be more than 2 hours (using feathers at least). 

I'm level 35, and I don't foresee much difficulty in hitting all five castles to get ranked.

The bigger problem is how long it'll take to get any of the rewards, and the cost/time to reward ratio relative to other events.

[4913802] Father of All (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 16, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

dandelion1958 (GB1) said:

@BM ang1243   like someone else mentioned can you PLEASE Confirm  the Timings - CET ? GMT? or what

just so troops don't end back at main and starve all my recruits !

Around 1am GMT I think

[4913840] ftfarm (GB1) [None] :: Feb. 16, 2018, 6:01 p.m.

So I have enough points to be 3rd - but I do not show up on the rankings because this is the first time I have had a go at this - in fact by the sounds of it I have to have completed a series to be ranked - Have I read this correctly? Wondering why I am even having a go at this ?

[4913846] Defectus (US1) [US1] :: Feb. 16, 2018, 6:11 p.m.

Philt123 (GB1) said:

I am happy its a crap event at least now its over much quicker, and i dont have to look at those incoming horns to see those 32 troop hits coming in for 15 days.  cant you just make it a 1 day event?  better still a 0 day event ?

I still cant for the life of me work out what on earth u wasted your time and effort on this for.  PVP with the heart sould and more important excitement ripped from it!

But now we're looking at two years to finish the commander and for those of us who want it we actually have to play the event more often.

[4913888] PhoenixRising7 (US1) [US1] :: Feb. 16, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

Back to the shortened time the event is running.  Instead of shortening the event, why not just have a built in reset on the charms?

[4914131] vital viper (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 12:05 p.m.

2 days is not long enough to hold a position that took considerable tools and time to get. Factor in work and home life then it can be very hard to get it done in a day and its not worth starting if it cant be done on day one. 2 weeks was too long and i did indeed get lucky first time round and held top 10 throughout the fortnight. Maybe 3 lots of 5 days would be better.

[4914184] hubsan14 (SKN1) [None] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

hehe i think gge want players to use more tools and rubies, money rain for gge 

[4914188] vital viper (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

2 day points reset will use less tools and rubies i think. Why bother spying or planning an attack if the 5 have to be hit before the first points are shared out to make it worthwhile. Why not just take your chances and send what troops you can to each one with a decent courtyard bonus commander and no tools - minimum effort and time needed. Looking at the GB1 scores it seems 4-5k totals get 600 points or 500 at worst. blind luck from the 5 targets is going to get us a 2-5k score whereas planning and tools might get 6k+ for an extra 100 points maybe. Certainly cant see anyone using hardcore mode. The first shapeshifter event was a learning curve where i found that a win v 1000 defenders was worth far more than a very close defeat to a 10k defence - so i hit the ones i thought id win then waited until the following day to complete the set - no need to cram it in. then harvesters aliance did really well so after 4 days i tried again but could not better first score - it was interesting. all that has been removed from the game play and now it looks as though its gong to be just another chore to get done - hope not.

[4914294] UD1 (INT1) [INT1] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

To be honest , i have no interest in the shapeshifter event, quite baffle with the scoring . i emptied my castle when i was being attacked . was quite strange when i received the report the winner was given 1,200 for the win , and yet when i do the same, i get about 100 points . so i do not undestand that . but it is quite random with the castles you hit wether they defend or not , i guess the true test if we were all given the same casles.

but i just keep hoping they dump the equipment in Royal quest instead, that would work for me , 

[4914333] David Noble (US1) [None] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

vital viper (GB1) said:

2 day points reset will use less tools and rubies i think. Why bother spying or planning an attack if the 5 have to be hit before the first points are shared out to make it worthwhile. Why not just take your chances and send what troops you can to each one with a decent courtyard bonus commander and no tools - minimum effort and time needed. Looking at the GB1 scores it seems 4-5k totals get 600 points or 500 at worst. blind luck from the 5 targets is going to get us a 2-5k score whereas planning and tools might get 6k+ for an extra 100 points maybe. Certainly cant see anyone using hardcore mode. The first shapeshifter event was a learning curve where i found that a win v 1000 defenders was worth far more than a very close defeat to a 10k defence - so i hit the ones i thought id win then waited until the following day to complete the set - no need to cram it in. then harvesters aliance did really well so after 4 days i tried again but could not better first score - it was interesting. all that has been removed from the game play and now it looks as though its gong to be just another chore to get done - hope not.

I often use hardcore mode. At least most of the time though when I do use it only 32 attackers or 32 defenders on the undefended positions only so that way they can have a chance at making it into the courtyard for more points and no tools so that way I can more easily get the 50 charms and extra points as well without having to use tools, unless if it is a small and/or weak cast with like maybe 2k Shapeshifters or less. Which in that case I might send a full sized attack with all positions and all waves using tools and use partial or full hardcore mode depending on the strength of cast, tool setup, and number of Shapeshifters. Otherwise, I use normal mode with a full sized attack that is fully equipped with tools if I think that I have a chance of winning, but the defenses and/or strength of cast and tool set up are too high to use for me to use hardcore mode.

[4914334] hubsan14 (SKN1) [None] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 8:20 p.m.

BIGTtheMULLER (INT1) said:

To be honest , i have no interest in the shapeshifter event, quite baffle with the scoring . i emptied my castle when i was being attacked . was quite strange when i received the report the winner was given 1,200 for the win , and yet when i do the same, i get about 100 points . so i do not undestand that . but it is quite random with the castles you hit wether they defend or not , i guess the true test if we were all given the same casles.

but i just keep hoping they dump the equipment in Royal quest instead, that would work for me , 

you get more pointes the less defended  the shapeshifter is,  i would recomend you to get charsm to buy som martieral and try to get aleast 300-400 insigna each day then you will be aple to get the goiod cormandere in 1 year time. i'm my self almost have 3 pices of the insigna cormander.

[4914352] Philt123 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 9:33 p.m.

go figure you kill 10k troops and get less points than if you kill 3k.  Bizarre.  i know which was the better hit, yet GGE seem to disagree.

[4914382] David Noble (US1) [None] :: Feb. 17, 2018, 11:35 p.m.

Philt123 (GB1) said:

go figure you kill 10k troops and get less points than if you kill 3k.  Bizarre.  i know which was the better hit, yet GGE seem to disagree.

Who would even use partial hardcore mode against 10K? A ruby whale? Important to keep in mind you can lose troops as well in addition to tools possibly even in partial hardcore mode. I dare you to use hardcore mode against 10k and see if you can both still win and get more points than winning against 10k in normal mode. Normal mode is not supposed to get you as many points overall in comparison to hardcore mode because it is less risky. (Partial as in at least excluding bonuses like ranged and melee especially vs. a castellan with 10k troops in it.)

[4914403] Shares (AU1) [AU1] :: Feb. 18, 2018, 1 a.m.

BIGTtheMULLER (INT1) said:

To be honest , i have no interest in the shapeshifter event, quite baffle with the scoring . i emptied my castle when i was being attacked . was quite strange when i received the report the winner was given 1,200 for the win , and yet when i do the same, i get about 100 points . so i do not undestand that . but it is quite random with the castles you hit wether they defend or not , i guess the true test if we were all given the same casles.

but i just keep hoping they dump the equipment in Royal quest instead, that would work for me , 

I broke my own rules to ruby the Royal quest finish because I thought it was beneficial but Id already bt the Master Summoner so now I have 2 d'uh.. hindsight is gr8 isnt it. But Im not really sure if they want us to compete in shitters they should make the equipement available elsewhere yet..besides theyre not announcing in advance what shitters armour will be in Royal Quest. 

What I find annoying with the current shitters event is the day cutoffs doesnt leave any time to fix things. One of my first attack missed the cutoff so I couldnt post early then the running total I had was low so wasnt worth doing anything more than run a 32 attack to complete it (total score 2009). I now have quite a reasonable running total but now the event has closed.  2 1/2 days is not long enough to reset your score UNLESS they give us the ability to reset when we want to. 

[4914439] LordAdi (IN1) [None] :: Feb. 18, 2018, 6:15 a.m.

This Iteration was the worst one ever
They already reduced it to 5 days
And then they cut it into parts.
Also Saying they wont count any hit numbers after specific time.
I have been trying to get into leaderboards/
Turned on Hard Mode 
and cleared all target
loosing about 1k sols in total
And what i see  "There are no insignia payouts left"
Wtf is this. Either reduce payout times to like 4 times a day or get event running back to 15 days
That way atleast we get insignias

[4914445] bernhardt (US1) [US1] :: Feb. 18, 2018, 6:48 a.m.

Enkidu (ASIA1) said:

bernhardt (US1) said:

The lag time between the runs is unacceptable.  10 hrs is an absolute joke.  I'm going to state that you've just eliminated a whole bunch of people from being able to get a ranking for that day. I can understand a reset for the top place, but the dead time is ludicrous. 

I highly suggest GGS get rid of the gargantuan lit crack pipe that apparently is in the HVAC system.  If they did that their costs would go way down, and maybe, just maybe the programmers will be lucid enough to program something good for once.

Its not difficult

Your troops teleport back to your castle... so its just the distance there, which shouldn't be more than 2 hours (using feathers at least). 

I'm level 35, and I don't foresee much difficulty in hitting all five castles to get ranked.

The bigger problem is how long it'll take to get any of the rewards, and the cost/time to reward ratio relative to other events.

You misunderstood.  Not talking about the time my attacks take.  Talking about the fact that almost 25% of the time that the event is running your hits won't count toward your insignia ranking due to GGE's resetting and restarting schedule for the insignia rankings.  Read the announcement(especially the last part) carefully and you'll see what I mean.

[4914494] kajacro (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 18, 2018, 10:41 a.m.

Shapeshifter should finish at 11.30am but at 10.30 it disappears???? If we weren't talking GMT surely that should be made clear?

[4914495] man utd (INT1) [None] :: Feb. 18, 2018, 10:48 a.m.

If the event is normally 15 days long, why not divide that by 3 and make it 5 days at a time. This would be a good balance between having a good bunch first day and then just resting while at the same time it being actually worth putting some sort of effort to do well.  2 days is just too short. 

On the other hand, much less people will afford to use hardcore mode, so normal mode will get you higher in the rankings

[4914511] RulerGhostRider (US1) [None] :: Feb. 18, 2018, 11:39 a.m.

At least 3 members of our alliance sent attacks on Shapeshifters last night and this morning not a single battle report. At least troops went back to their originating ops and castles.  If the event is ending or resetting they ought to warn you that your attacks won't get there in time like they do with Bloodcrows and Foreign Invaders.  Real tired of glitches and broken events!