Forum: empire-en

Board: [817] War Updates

Topic: [346353] GB1 Server War

[4909456] DaveHero0 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 8:12 a.m.

OK Mods

Are you prepared to say that you get no ingame benefits from GGS for your time and trouble?

[4909469] Friedrich IV (US1) [None] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 8:57 a.m.

DaveHero0 (GB1) said:

OK Mods

Are you prepared to say that you get no ingame benefits from GGS for your time and trouble?

Yep.

I report people all the time and GGS never bans them. I starve troops all the time and GGS never replaces them. GGS doesn't give me any rubies aside from the ones I purchase myself. I get the same offers as everyone else does, or at least those with a similar spending history to mine.

I'm pretty sure that all of the mods that still play in-game were at 1M power when they became moderators, I was, QueenB was, idk about Angus or Temprance tbh but the point still stands, we're all players that don't need any in-game benefits.

[4909478] DaveHero0 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 9:22 a.m.

Fair enough, thought I'd ask and get it on record ;-)

Must be incredibly frustrating as a Mod, getting ignored by GGS

Why do it if you don't mind me asking?

[4909493] husky (GB1) [None] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 10:03 a.m.

Sikreb (GB1) said:

Evening... I do not post often but thought maybe I should say a few words

Odins Fury were declared on by 3 alliances technically.... but 4 alliances to those with half a brain cell, regardless of who pressed the button..... So any words of fair play fall upon deaf ears as far as we are concerned... its comical that fair play is mentioned at all

Its brilliant to think that these alliances intended on ruining Odins Fury and to look at where they stand now... desperate claims... seeking out any arguement possible to get 1 up.... words can be shared till peeps are blue in the face, power points/pro mode/members dropped/red or black dots/troop losses are all the evidence needed to see who is on top... and who made a mistake in joining in a war they knew little about

Alot of moaning going on... half those have run off which is brilliant and embarrassing.... many more in pro... also alot of conspiracy talk which is just weak, I would be embarrassed to even consider this, such a cute+flattering attempt to justify your downfall... this is war, it is what it is... all alliances have the same buttons, the same troops, the same opportunities

Odins Fury will do whatever is necessary.... If it can be done it will be done

To anyone reading who is part of the war and is wondering whats next, your leader only needs to request peace and admit that going 4vs1 initially was a big mistake.... then you can go back to playing the game the way you play.... we are merciful and respect many who have taken part

sorry Sikreb but i am not complaining about odins 
did complain about gge/ggs  and CG for your record 
if i want to complain about you i just say enjoy your multi acc and you know better what i say 
and one more thing you as a leader of odins did nothing this war but tool sweeping and cap rvs and left Castle777 ,James23232322armies to do the job for you
all those alliances declare on odins because they are bullies
didnt see any complain on this forum about TRT captures small alliances rvs or ops
so please go back and play your accounts 

[4909514] AREKS (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

Sikreb (GB1) said:

Evening... I do not post often but thought maybe I should say a few words

Odins Fury were declared on by 3 alliances technically.... but 4 alliances to those with half a brain cell, regardless of who pressed the button..... So any words of fair play fall upon deaf ears as far as we are concerned... its comical that fair play is mentioned at all

Its brilliant to think that these alliances intended on ruining Odins Fury and to look at where they stand now... desperate claims... seeking out any arguement possible to get 1 up.... words can be shared till peeps are blue in the face, power points/pro mode/members dropped/red or black dots/troop losses are all the evidence needed to see who is on top... and who made a mistake in joining in a war they knew little about

Alot of moaning going on... half those have run off which is brilliant and embarrassing.... many more in pro... also alot of conspiracy talk which is just weak, I would be embarrassed to even consider this, such a cute+flattering attempt to justify your downfall... this is war, it is what it is... all alliances have the same buttons, the same troops, the same opportunities

Odins Fury will do whatever is necessary.... If it can be done it will be done

To anyone reading who is part of the war and is wondering whats next, your leader only needs to request peace and admit that going 4vs1 initially was a big mistake.... then you can go back to playing the game the way you play.... we are merciful and respect many who have taken part

[4909603] UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

All this is absolutely Pathetic.
I get abuse because I am part of CG in game and here.
Then players go on about fair play.  Absolute Joke.

Why did 4 alliances declare on Odins? Because it achieved nothing so would love to know that answer.

Fair play in this case in player made. It was made ALONG time ago. It needs updating.

@husky (GB1) Seen as your a popular poster , I would love to know why you complained about CG.
The server going down benefited your side. Guestimate 450k Horrors to 150k horrors.
Love to know your thought process on how that would favour CG.. Unless its CG giving everyone one last chance to do something ?

If players are going to post , POST reports or at least keep it cival.

If players want to slander go create your own ' Woe is me' thread.

~Ultra

[4909616] gazz65 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 5:33 p.m.

You say people moan all the time about cg odins , nearly every post
a cg or odins player post its moaning about how many alliances declared 
on odins.

if like you say its a war game don't keep going on about 3-1 4-1 and 
all the bullies that have ganged up. get on with the war and either win it draw it or lose it

Enjoy rest of the war got real life stuff going on now.

remember keep smiling its only a big kids war game

[4909628] UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

Big difference between crying and justification.

Like your justification for not being part of the war is real life stuff going on.

But as previously pointed out information supplied is just myth.

Only thing iv cried about is being called a bully because its simply not true.
Id prefer to keep my fights between the ropes. In which an sanctioned Match is always welcome.

~Ultra

[4909677] Friedrich IV (US1) [None] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

DaveHero0 (GB1) said:

Fair enough, thought I'd ask and get it on record ;-)

Must be incredibly frustrating as a Mod, getting ignored by GGS

Why do it if you don't mind me asking?

Lack of anything better to do and an immense hatred of the spam that used to ruin the forums

[4909707] husky (GB1) [None] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 9:40 p.m.

UltraFlavoured (GB1) said:

All this is absolutely Pathetic.
I get abuse because I am part of CG in game and here.
Then players go on about fair play.  Absolute Joke.

Why did 4 alliances declare on Odins? Because it achieved nothing so would love to know that answer.

Fair play in this case in player made. It was made ALONG time ago. It needs updating.

@husky (GB1) Seen as your a popular poster , I would love to know why you complained about CG.
The server going down benefited your side. Guestimate 450k Horrors to 150k horrors.
Love to know your thought process on how that would favour CG.. Unless its CG giving everyone one last chance to do something ?

If players are going to post , POST reports or at least keep it cival.

If players want to slander go create your own ' Woe is me' thread.

~Ultra

sorry UltraFlavoured but you are pathetic
you like other few more who only know to play in big alliances and bully small ones
maybe not you but most of cg
most of TRT and other alliances players are part-time players who play for fun
but you gather all in there to bully others
lots of players and alliances would like to war cg/odins but they are to small
will give you an example
Here to party -Resilient kings player joined TRT and what happened?
Winalot sorry Canucks threat him cg will destroy his alliance and declare on them so don't complain about 4 vs 2 should be 20 vs 2 
I will not post anymore just tried to make everyone who play see what this game become

[4909744] UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 8, 2018, 11:29 p.m.

Ha ha ha - no husky you have no idea -you’ve been in TRT a lot longer than iv been in CG 

Pretty sure whilst I was playing ALONE TRT tried to recruit me , and believe me fair play rules go out the window when you play alone - and the excuses mount. 

So no husky that is another false statement. 

I am not an alliance - I am a player. I can only speak for my own actions.
Id never go out of my way to force anyone out of the game nor constantly bombarded with hits outside of war. 

We all have a choice to leave whether it’s one player or a whole alliance - I get why players stay - it’s your alliance but some alliances should have moved on a lot sooner. 

The very few that actually get to know me , know I speak my mind who ever it’s too. 

I have no issues with any alliances - I love the fact alliances join together and help each other 
I love the fact players work together for hits. 

I like to se posts from either side -

what I don’t like it’s being labelled under one umbrella. Then receiving abuse because players don’t like an alliance - that is what’s pathetic 

I try and refrain from commenting - at it attracts more abuse - one could say it’s ‘bullying’ but hey only our side does that. 
Support must be for your side too cas they do naff all.

~Ultra

[4909760] Batten (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 1:37 a.m.

Strangely enough there are less attacks because as a result of the latest outage from GGE a number of players have left or in the process of leaving the game or have moved into pro-mode.  That was more the trigger than the war itself.  Those losses are clearly going to be felt and regretted in any alliances and the dynamic changes.  To claim those losses are as a result of player activity at this point is a little crass.  Others have stopped buying or recruiting troops in protest at the failure to properly reimburse players for their losses, whilst affected players are simply on pause waiting to see if there concerns are recognised.  This is not the first time this has happened and for some alliances this causes a lull as people reset.  Clearly you can try and take advantage of it or you can support other players affected by giving them time to recover.  Personally I am happy to wait for an opponent to recover others perhaps may be more desperate for success, it's simply a question of style and approach.  Not much sense of achievement in beating an opponent GGE has already more comprehensively beaten than I could probably ever manage.  For some that's weakness for others strength.  Destroying something that's already damaged is a little distasteful and lacks an elegance as an approach for me at least.  

[4909775] Friedrich IV (US1) [None] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 3:19 a.m.

Batten (GB1) said:

Strangely enough there are less attacks because as a result of the latest outage from GGE a number of players have left or in the process of leaving the game or have moved into pro-mode.  That was more the trigger than the war itself.  Those losses are clearly going to be felt and regretted in any alliances and the dynamic changes.  To claim those losses are as a result of player activity at this point is a little crass.  Others have stopped buying or recruiting troops in protest at the failure to properly reimburse players for their losses, whilst affected players are simply on pause waiting to see if there concerns are recognised.  This is not the first time this has happened and for some alliances this causes a lull as people reset.  Clearly you can try and take advantage of it or you can support other players affected by giving them time to recover.  Personally I am happy to wait for an opponent to recover others perhaps may be more desperate for success, it's simply a question of style and approach.  Not much sense of achievement in beating an opponent GGE has already more comprehensively beaten than I could probably ever manage.  For some that's weakness for others strength.  Destroying something that's already damaged is a little distasteful and lacks an elegance as an approach for me at least.  

From someone who's not involved, torching someone while they're weakened and keeping them pinned until they agree to your peace terms is a very valid war tactic.

It's what I did in most of my wars - surprise declarations, demo the entire alliance overnight, and keep torching them until they give. It makes for a pretty easy win when your opponent is unable to recover.

That being said, it probably speaks to why a good chunk of US1, even some top alliances I've never interacted with, think I'm a giant asshole.

[4909795] UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 7:13 a.m.

@Batten (GB1) Although the part about the outrage of customers due to the server crash rings true. 

The side with the many still manage to put together the biggest mass on players that I have seen in the war without countless tool knocks or captures. 
Which suggests many accepted that terrible compensation package to use in this war.

which in the case of war I assume we can agree at that point you would of done the most damage.
Yet the masses still continue on us.

players where even jumping in and hitting then jumping back out but hey that’s another story. 

Although a poor resolution for many of players I’d say in the instance of this war it was extremely helpful to many. 

So if your statement is none bias - I would agree if it’s related to ‘your side’  - I would not. 

~Ultra

[4909812] DaveHero0 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 8:49 a.m.

BM_Friedrich said:

Batten (GB1) said:

Strangely enough there are less attacks because as a result of the latest outage from GGE a number of players have left or in the process of leaving the game or have moved into pro-mode.  That was more the trigger than the war itself.  Those losses are clearly going to be felt and regretted in any alliances and the dynamic changes.  To claim those losses are as a result of player activity at this point is a little crass.  Others have stopped buying or recruiting troops in protest at the failure to properly reimburse players for their losses, whilst affected players are simply on pause waiting to see if there concerns are recognised.  This is not the first time this has happened and for some alliances this causes a lull as people reset.  Clearly you can try and take advantage of it or you can support other players affected by giving them time to recover.  Personally I am happy to wait for an opponent to recover others perhaps may be more desperate for success, it's simply a question of style and approach.  Not much sense of achievement in beating an opponent GGE has already more comprehensively beaten than I could probably ever manage.  For some that's weakness for others strength.  Destroying something that's already damaged is a little distasteful and lacks an elegance as an approach for me at least.  

From someone who's not involved, torching someone while they're weakened and keeping them pinned until they agree to your peace terms is a very valid war tactic.

It's what I did in most of my wars - surprise declarations, demo the entire alliance overnight, and keep torching them until they give. It makes for a pretty easy win when your opponent is unable to recover.

That being said, it probably speaks to why a good chunk of US1, even some top alliances I've never interacted with, think I'm a giant asshole.

Your words not mine ;-)

We all play according to our own values and ethics, none is more "right" than anothers

Personally I try to play in a more chivalrous manner as I really don't see the fun in battering lower level players into the ground and holding them there 

[4909852] Friedrich IV (US1) [None] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 10:46 a.m.

DaveHero0 (GB1) said:

BM_Friedrich said:

Batten (GB1) said:

Strangely enough there are less attacks because as a result of the latest outage from GGE a number of players have left or in the process of leaving the game or have moved into pro-mode.  That was more the trigger than the war itself.  Those losses are clearly going to be felt and regretted in any alliances and the dynamic changes.  To claim those losses are as a result of player activity at this point is a little crass.  Others have stopped buying or recruiting troops in protest at the failure to properly reimburse players for their losses, whilst affected players are simply on pause waiting to see if there concerns are recognised.  This is not the first time this has happened and for some alliances this causes a lull as people reset.  Clearly you can try and take advantage of it or you can support other players affected by giving them time to recover.  Personally I am happy to wait for an opponent to recover others perhaps may be more desperate for success, it's simply a question of style and approach.  Not much sense of achievement in beating an opponent GGE has already more comprehensively beaten than I could probably ever manage.  For some that's weakness for others strength.  Destroying something that's already damaged is a little distasteful and lacks an elegance as an approach for me at least.  

From someone who's not involved, torching someone while they're weakened and keeping them pinned until they agree to your peace terms is a very valid war tactic.

It's what I did in most of my wars - surprise declarations, demo the entire alliance overnight, and keep torching them until they give. It makes for a pretty easy win when your opponent is unable to recover.

That being said, it probably speaks to why a good chunk of US1, even some top alliances I've never interacted with, think I'm a giant asshole.

Your words not mine ;-)

We all play according to our own values and ethics, none is more "right" than anothers

Personally I try to play in a more chivalrous manner as I really don't see the fun in battering lower level players into the ground and holding them there 

Well there's a line to be drawn somewhere. If an alliance does something to deserve my wrath, they shall have it. When an alliance massed one of my members and stole their laboratory, I declared war and beat their alliance into the ground, I torched almost all their mains and ops overnight and they asked for peace in the morning. Not all of these were lower level players, in fact most weren't, though many were 100-200 legend levels under me, all were at least level 70 and expected to hold their own in a pvp setting. I think I was around 4-500 at the time, most of them were 200-700 I think. In this particular example, they asked for peace in the morning when the rest of them got online to torched castles, and I gave it without much negotiation because I felt they had gotten my point.

In another example, an alliance had been recruiting from us regularly, so we decided to teach them a lesson. We declared, started attacking everything, they insisted upon burning for about 3 days, after bringing in 2 allies, we brought in a neutral party to assist a negotiation to the end of the war because we couldn't agree on terms before that point. We got sick of their gnat attacks on our RVs, and they were sick of getting torched everywhere, so both of our terms reduced until we met in the middle on roughly even ground.

There's a difference between raging war and randomly torching people, though. I do glory hits as much as anyone else, but I don't revisit the same targets in a week and I keep it to mains unless given a reason to do otherwise.

The interesting thing I've seen here though is both sides crying foul at various war tactics. Some they do themselves, others they don't. While I may gauge 0 attacks but lots of RV caps as a sign that an enemy is close to broken and therefore likely losing the engagement, I wouldn't call them bad for doing it. That's just one example, take a look around I'm sure you'll find more

[4909870] DaveHero0 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

Both sides have used what I consider to be "unfair" tactics but that's up to individual players.  I do think that building destroyer commanders are particularly nasty, but there seems to have been a general agreement to stop using them.  The whole RV taking and dropping thing I find childish, as is the pulling of attacks, but they are perfectly valid tactics.

Sooner or later enough players are going to get bored and either move alliances, go pro or simply leave the game that the two sides will have to agree a compromise

Not going to be anytime soon though...




 

[4909885] UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

DaveHero0 (GB1) said:

Both sides have used what I consider to be "unfair" tactics but that's up to individual players.  I do think that building destroyer commanders are particularly nasty, but there seems to have been a general agreement to stop using them.  The whole RV taking and dropping thing I find childish, as is the pulling of attacks, but they are perfectly valid tactics.

Sooner or later enough players are going to get bored and either move alliances, go pro or simply leave the game that the two sides will have to agree a compromise

Not going to be anytime soon though... 

Yeah pretty much spot on that. Even though appear valid - Its all happened through escalation which could of been avoided.
Money see monkey do comes to mind.

It started pleasurable and all gone very distasteful - Maybe comments I have mentioned have been taken the wrong way so that why I get abuse. But the players I do know from the opposite of the fence know, I am all for banter and see this as a game only.

~Ultra

[4909892] gazz65 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

BM_Friedrich said:

DaveHero0 (GB1) said:

BM_Friedrich said:

Batten (GB1) said:

Strangely enough there are less attacks because as a result of the latest outage from GGE a number of players have left or in the process of leaving the game or have moved into pro-mode.  That was more the trigger than the war itself.  Those losses are clearly going to be felt and regretted in any alliances and the dynamic changes.  To claim those losses are as a result of player activity at this point is a little crass.  Others have stopped buying or recruiting troops in protest at the failure to properly reimburse players for their losses, whilst affected players are simply on pause waiting to see if there concerns are recognised.  This is not the first time this has happened and for some alliances this causes a lull as people reset.  Clearly you can try and take advantage of it or you can support other players affected by giving them time to recover.  Personally I am happy to wait for an opponent to recover others perhaps may be more desperate for success, it's simply a question of style and approach.  Not much sense of achievement in beating an opponent GGE has already more comprehensively beaten than I could probably ever manage.  For some that's weakness for others strength.  Destroying something that's already damaged is a little distasteful and lacks an elegance as an approach for me at least.  

From someone who's not involved, torching someone while they're weakened and keeping them pinned until they agree to your peace terms is a very valid war tactic.

It's what I did in most of my wars - surprise declarations, demo the entire alliance overnight, and keep torching them until they give. It makes for a pretty easy win when your opponent is unable to recover.

That being said, it probably speaks to why a good chunk of US1, even some top alliances I've never interacted with, think I'm a giant asshole.

Your words not mine ;-)

We all play according to our own values and ethics, none is more "right" than anothers

Personally I try to play in a more chivalrous manner as I really don't see the fun in battering lower level players into the ground and holding them there 

Well there's a line to be drawn somewhere. If an alliance does something to deserve my wrath, they shall have it. When an alliance massed one of my members and stole their laboratory, I declared war and beat their alliance into the ground, I torched almost all their mains and ops overnight and they asked for peace in the morning. Not all of these were lower level players, in fact most weren't, though many were 100-200 legend levels under me, all were at least level 70 and expected to hold their own in a pvp setting. I think I was around 4-500 at the time, most of them were 200-700 I think. In this particular example, they asked for peace in the morning when the rest of them got online to torched castles, and I gave it without much negotiation because I felt they had gotten my point.

In another example, an alliance had been recruiting from us regularly, so we decided to teach them a lesson. We declared, started attacking everything, they insisted upon burning for about 3 days, after bringing in 2 allies, we brought in a neutral party to assist a negotiation to the end of the war because we couldn't agree on terms before that point. We got sick of their gnat attacks on our RVs, and they were sick of getting torched everywhere, so both of our terms reduced until we met in the middle on roughly even ground.

There's a difference between raging war and randomly torching people, though. I do glory hits as much as anyone else, but I don't revisit the same targets in a week and I keep it to mains unless given a reason to do otherwise.

The interesting thing I've seen here though is both sides crying foul at various war tactics. Some they do themselves, others they don't. While I may gauge 0 attacks but lots of RV caps as a sign that an enemy is close to broken and therefore likely losing the engagement, I wouldn't call them bad for doing it. That's just one example, take a look around I'm sure you'll find more

think you will find rvs went within a week of war starting so guessing not many alliances 
were near collapse at the time. soon as we entered the war rvs went roughly same day.
but like others keep saying its part of game.

[4909966] samasensei (ASIA1) [ASIA1] :: Feb. 9, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

lol