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Forum: empire-en
Board: [818] General Discussion
Topic: [301231] Beri - I am keeping a tally....

[-301231] Graylen (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 7:25 a.m.
Can the Leaders/shot callers of all alliances who think the new Beri is nothing but a Ruby Sham - post a message here. 

I would be interested to see how many we get. 

Graylen 

Frankenstein - Au1 

[4315565] TimeLord (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 8:17 a.m.
Our alliance is participating only for the alliance gem at the end and the horrors.

I do not like this event (personally) But at least now I can recruit imperial units in my main.

Well I don't like it but we want the rewards

-The basterds AU1

[4315603] Lesky (AU1) [AU1] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 8:40 a.m.
Whats the plan? ruby boycott in aus?

I'm a pretty big ruby player, but this is a joke. and i have bigger ruby players who will get on board with me...after they/we win the event of course 

But they said this about the other berimond didnt they? and non ruby players managed to win that. Just gotta play harder

[4315623] The main man (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 8:50 a.m.
i am a semi ruby buyer, and splurge occasionally when needed. but i cant keep up with this event. every other event i have been able to get top 50 or so without ruby buying. but this is ridiculous, if you gave us 20 days for this new style beri event i still dont think i would be able to reach the final prize lol. so i support what graylen says fully. btw gray, 12pm tonight watch out mate, im coming ;) lol

[4315649] CM Arcanine [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 8:59 a.m.
Hey guys,

I can appreciate that you might not be a big fan of the Berimond Invasion, but some constructive criticism would be much appreciated. Any comments about how to improve the event would definitely be welcome, as just 'we also don't like this' doesn't really help us.

Cheers,

Steve.

[4315674] pcsurgeon (NL1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:08 a.m.
So what constructive criticism would ever be used Steve?? We are flatout ignored! I gave you good options on the original Beri - no answer.

So here's two changes we want:
- Coins back to old nomads/samurai mode (24 - 27k) per hit, so you can afford and replace with new soldiers
- No more lvl 60's camp for lvl 70 players, imo designed this way to impose the forced use of ruby tools, ultimately resulting in massive soldier losses if you use conventional tools

Can you handle these 2 points??

Sincerely,
pcsurgeon

[4315677] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:09 a.m.
Hey guys,

I can appreciate that you might not be a big fan of the Berimond Invasion, but some constructive criticism would be much appreciated. Any comments about how to improve the event would definitely be welcome, as just 'we also don't like this' doesn't really help us.

Cheers,

Steve.
This feedback has been given Steve.

You are changing the coin economy of the game and it is 100% fvcked. 

Negatives:
- Not enough slots to hit the camps with reso/mud tools.  (Wooden mantlets)
- Not enough Coin return from the camps to keep hitting and buying tools, producing troops.
- 1k+ troops on the wall.... srsly I want their casta that I can put 1k troops on the wall....

It isnt just "Berrimod" its the changes as a whole that have come out in the last few weeks reducing coins in sammys and nomads as well, also on the books with a "reso coin booster" and a premium ruby booster to boost coins collected.  I went in to details how we hit these camps without having to spend rubies and these changes really effect us a huge amount in that respect. 

You know what, leave it the same and put in a ruby coin booster for those spenders that want more coin, but dont fk the whole game economy for everyone else.  That is what it is doing, so you have the feedback, however until their can be the feedback from yourself Steve that XYZ is getting changed this conversation is hollow. 

UK server got some results by a ruby boycott, im all for it on AU and as many other servers want to join in if these changes go through. 

Instead of tell us what you dont like? ITS EVERYWHERE ON THE FORUMS.  How about you tell us what you can do to make changes that will wind back these measures implemented so far. 

GGE is a data driven company is somethig gyou have said before.  Of the only way we can get the point accross is to slow the cashflow with a ruby boycott and have you act on that data then thats what I am for. 


JJ

[4315695] The main man (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:17 a.m.
-more coin
-easier to reach rewards, (obviously we dont expect it to be handed on a platter, however still reachable) 
- overall i loved the old beri, i mean the real old beri. where camps could be captured, last man standing mode actually got activated, capitals where destroyed, camps burned etc that beri. the one where you had to use tactical skills, create chatzy group chats etc. the old beri was the best event, players actually attacked each other and camps had to built in order to defend. after that vanished berimond has never truly been "fun" for me, sure the rewards are better but game play sucks. 
thats just my opinion anyway.

[4315700] FabulousUlysses (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:20 a.m.
I agree with Graylen. This new GE Beri is a joke. 

By my calculations losing between 20-40 troops on low level camps and 70-120 on the higher level camps you will lose a minimum 15-20k troops and most of those are range. Add in that you need ruby tools to keep loses at a minimum, seeing you can't fit enough resource tools to reduce wall and range.

A level 68 camp you can only send 30 tools on flank and 40 in centre, If there is one bodkin arrow there you need ruby mantlets and there are over 800 defendrs on the wall

The coin loot 3 to 4k also can't even keep up with troop loses.

So the only way to finish is to buy troops and a whole lot of ruby mantlets.

My alliance hasn't decided anything yet, but there has been a lot of grumbling on alliance chat.

Ulysses

Storm Cloaks AU1

[4315714] The main man (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:27 a.m.
btw, whilst we are on the topic of suggesting improvements, can you allow me to demolish my military hospital? lol hate that fkn thing ahah. taking up my PO space :P

[4315736] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:35 a.m.
The Seperatists - AU1

100% a total flop of an event for all the reasons listed multiple times in other threads. 

Complain elsewhere TMM.  Alliance leaders, people speaking on behalf of alliances to post in here saying they speak for alliance as a whole and agree this even needs to change as per feedback in other threads. 


JJ

[4315768] ang1243 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:44 a.m.
How many coins do people get from samurais/nomads (on the working servers)

[4315777] FamousJohn8 (GB1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:45 a.m.
How many coins do people get from samurais/nomads (on the working servers)
Dont think anyone has had one since the update ang mate

[4315780] TimeLord (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:46 a.m.
Hey guys,

I can appreciate that you might not be a big fan of the Berimond Invasion, but some constructive criticism would be much appreciated. Any comments about how to improve the event would definitely be welcome, as just 'we also don't like this' doesn't really help us.

Cheers,

Steve.
Hey steve what is your twitter I will be uploading a video on this next Friday as I have already pre-recorded till next Wednesday. I will make a vid and tweet it at you so you can get a look at what the top alliances of the AUS server say also consider dropping a follow as I will basically be starting a new series where a voice the opinions of the community in a "constructive" style. Thanks for the video idea and I'm sorry for this but I really think you should ask our opinions before you start work on an update that way no one's time is wasted!.

[4315782] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:46 a.m.
We have Berrimod atm no nomads and Sammys. 

However if these changes are anything to go by, not enough. 

[4315784] ang1243 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:46 a.m.
How many coins do people get from samurais/nomads (on the working servers)
Dont think anyone has had one since the update ang mate
http://prntscr.com/a7onfr

That's all that made me think otherwise

[4315797] FamousJohn8 (GB1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 9:48 a.m.
How many coins do people get from samurais/nomads (on the working servers)
Dont think anyone has had one since the update ang mate
http://prntscr.com/a7onfr

That's all that made me think otherwise
Oh not sure then, havent seen any threads of people moaning so assumed it hasnt been out yet

[4316026] Mario999 (GB1) [GB1] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 10:30 a.m.
Think it was running for a time on the Aus server and someone said 3k coin per hit, then it was took down again.


[4316094] renggezich (NL1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 10:41 a.m.

i can''t play berimond anymore,,,,,my coins are gone......

i loos more soldiers and with only 3 k coints per hit i cant replace it.........so berimond is for me history.


greetz mike


[4316322] RighteousFabric (AU1) [None] :: Feb. 25, 2016, 11:22 a.m.
Hey guys,

I can appreciate that you might not be a big fan of the Berimond Invasion, but some constructive criticism would be much appreciated. Any comments about how to improve the event would definitely be welcome, as just 'we also don't like this' doesn't really help us.
Well basically, the coins coming back just don't match up with what we are spending to get there, especially when you consider the limited tool slots.  You have to buy ruby tools to limit losses, or wear the losses and find that the rewards can't replace the troops that were killed.  I'm not stupid - I've got a wall commander set up for this stuff so basically all I have to do is put in mantlets which should be enough, but not any more...

It's not just the new addition to Berimond; going to berimond and to some extent the Nomads and Samurai events now have the same problem.  If I recruit to replace troops I start going backwards.

There's also a very important point I'd like to make about the direction the game is going in generally.  We are seeing a push from GGS over the last few months to a more event oriented game.  We saw the new Beri, the Nomads, and then Samurai event added, and now we have Berimond camps in Green Empire.  This doesn't leave much time or resources for playing the game as it was originally intended - a war game against other real flesh and blood players.

I've actually stopped buying rubies because I can't see the point in doing that to attack boring old NPCs. What a waste of money.  Let's face it, once you understand how the NPCs are set up and the optimum way to attack them depending on your capabilities, it gets pretty boring on the second time through. Then the third...  then the fourth.  They are running events back to back and sometimes concurrently.

I'd put this in caps, but I don't want to be rude so I've just got to hope you're still reading.  The game is now getting as boring as dogsh**.  Battles against real players, The alliance going to war, working as a team to sit some other alliance on their backside.  Cut and thrust and real tactics...   That's what made this game interesting.  I really don't know if I can sustain interest in the game in the format that GGS are pushing on us. 

The game is just not much fun any more.

RF

(grammar and spelling edit)