I didnt understand half of what was stated there lol,
what i was stating was, of all the diplos ive spoken too,
I've never been spoke to like that,
And the diplo here at UKN, would never speak like that,
So was just requesting the title was changed to,
"_______________" Deal with blah blah blah,
Rather than bringing all "big alliances" into the mix
Forum: empire-en
Board: [818] General Discussion
Topic: [305778] The way Big Alliances deal with diplomacy! "10th Legion" => This kind of things must be exposed!
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 3:54 p.m.
So this afternoon, a player level 60 Benjig 1999 from "10h legion", suddenly decides to attack two players level 18 in my alliance at the same time. (the goal is clearly to feed hungry Veteran Demons in random attacks)
I mailed some officers, for them to check before attacks lands.. to see on alliance movements, cause clearly i just do not know who is online.
And, AsgardFighter "10th Legion" diplomat, instead of dealing things properly, start to threaten me, to sabotage me, and then at last declares war.
Hey, what about an excuse in name of the player that was breaking the rules.
By allowing this kind of behaviors that should be dealt with heavy hand. cause is a clear breaking of the rules.
So like this..
It was like it was i that was doing something wrong! And not a player level 64 from their alliance that was attacking two level 18 castles in my alliance.
This is far from a joke.
What this has becoming to!
Trying to shut someone that is clamming for an answer, clamming for justice...
Below are some of AsgardFighter messages...
"_saw that? your players might have piissed him off didnt they? did they do anything wrong?_"
=> are you slow thinking or what..
No way man!
My players did nothing wrong...
And what part did not you understand that it was a level 64 player attacking two players almost 40 levels below..
Besides, even if it was the case, that is not, what kind of damage can a level 18 castle make to a level 64 in a big alliance.. to provoke such a reaction..
And even if it was that way, that is not, was not it suppose to be dealt diplomatic first..
You are dreaming!..
Trying to find excuse for where there is no excuse!...
"_its so sad that your gonna leave the game soon_"
=> So this is your diplomatic way of dealing with a clear damage a player from your alliance clearly made to a couple of low level players.. in my alliance...
Now wait, i am being sabotaged while i am dealing with this diplomat..
Nice way of diplomacy by spreading the terror for damages you player has done
"_did you hear me or what? did your player do something to him to annoy him? he is not online right now. ask your player if they did something wrong to him. and when he got online im gonna take care of him. now chill out_"
=> some answer as above!
Again you just trying to find excuses where there is no excuse, and trying to win time..
What about first "hey i am sorry for the behavior of the player in my alliance"
"that kinda off things were not suppose to happen"
You saw clearly a level 64 player attacking two level 18 castles with veteran demons as i
"_just a piece of advice my friend. what your mouth and wait tell i talk to him OR
you are gonna regret that_"
=> Nice, now i am being attacked by this"kind" diplomat..
In my main castle and in an outpost!
This is the way some big alliances rule by spreading the fear over the kingdom.
And if a silly head from them brake rules of fair play, they just cover their back and try to silence the voice that claims for justice.. the voice that asks for a reasonable explanation of what is happening an explanation of what is happening...
I shall not kneel to this kind of behaviors!
Now for a problem they cause they set war with my alliance and i am being attacked!
Sad but true!
I mailed some officers, for them to check before attacks lands.. to see on alliance movements, cause clearly i just do not know who is online.
And, AsgardFighter "10th Legion" diplomat, instead of dealing things properly, start to threaten me, to sabotage me, and then at last declares war.
Hey, what about an excuse in name of the player that was breaking the rules.
By allowing this kind of behaviors that should be dealt with heavy hand. cause is a clear breaking of the rules.
So like this..
It was like it was i that was doing something wrong! And not a player level 64 from their alliance that was attacking two level 18 castles in my alliance.
This is far from a joke.
What this has becoming to!
Trying to shut someone that is clamming for an answer, clamming for justice...
Below are some of AsgardFighter messages...
"_saw that? your players might have piissed him off didnt they? did they do anything wrong?_"
=> are you slow thinking or what..
No way man!
My players did nothing wrong...
And what part did not you understand that it was a level 64 player attacking two players almost 40 levels below..
Besides, even if it was the case, that is not, what kind of damage can a level 18 castle make to a level 64 in a big alliance.. to provoke such a reaction..
And even if it was that way, that is not, was not it suppose to be dealt diplomatic first..
You are dreaming!..
Trying to find excuse for where there is no excuse!...
"_its so sad that your gonna leave the game soon_"
=> So this is your diplomatic way of dealing with a clear damage a player from your alliance clearly made to a couple of low level players.. in my alliance...
Now wait, i am being sabotaged while i am dealing with this diplomat..
Nice way of diplomacy by spreading the terror for damages you player has done
"_did you hear me or what? did your player do something to him to annoy him? he is not online right now. ask your player if they did something wrong to him. and when he got online im gonna take care of him. now chill out_"
=> some answer as above!
Again you just trying to find excuses where there is no excuse, and trying to win time..
What about first "hey i am sorry for the behavior of the player in my alliance"
"that kinda off things were not suppose to happen"
You saw clearly a level 64 player attacking two level 18 castles with veteran demons as i
"_just a piece of advice my friend. what your mouth and wait tell i talk to him OR
you are gonna regret that_"
=> Nice, now i am being attacked by this"kind" diplomat..
In my main castle and in an outpost!
This is the way some big alliances rule by spreading the fear over the kingdom.
And if a silly head from them brake rules of fair play, they just cover their back and try to silence the voice that claims for justice.. the voice that asks for a reasonable explanation of what is happening an explanation of what is happening...
I shall not kneel to this kind of behaviors!
Now for a problem they cause they set war with my alliance and i am being attacked!
Sad but true!
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FamousJohn8 (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 5:55 p.m.
not good
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 7:08 p.m.
Can you give screen shots to confirm it? Will be very interesting.
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 8:28 p.m.
Well I must say i'm having a very interesting conversation with AsgarFighter right now.
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AsgarFighter (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 8:40 p.m.
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SIDGamer (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 8:40 p.m.
Hi
I would like to point out that Asgarfighter was contacted by twisted mind concerning an attack by one of our members who was offline at the time.
Asgar wanted to find out what was going on and let twisted know he needed to find out what had prompted the double attack, as the member had never done anything like this before in the several years he has been playing.
twisted became abusive towards Asgar, who was only trying to sort this out and find out why this situation had occurred.
the above does not reflect the language twisted used towards asgar.
sid
I would like to point out that Asgarfighter was contacted by twisted mind concerning an attack by one of our members who was offline at the time.
Asgar wanted to find out what was going on and let twisted know he needed to find out what had prompted the double attack, as the member had never done anything like this before in the several years he has been playing.
twisted became abusive towards Asgar, who was only trying to sort this out and find out why this situation had occurred.
the above does not reflect the language twisted used towards asgar.
sid
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AsgarFighter (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 8:41 p.m.
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 9:03 p.m.
SIDGamer (GB1) said:Hi
I would like to point out that Asgarfighter was contacted by twisted mind concerning an attack by one of our members who was offline at the time.
Asgar wanted to find out what was going on and let twisted know he needed to find out what had prompted the double attack, as the member had never done anything like this before in the several years he has been playing.
twisted became abusive towards Asgar, who was only trying to sort this out and find out why this situation had occurred.
the above does not reflect the language twisted used towards asgar.
sid
Once of your members attacked 2 level 18 players in his alliance, breaking fair play rules. The fact he did it 2 times means he knew what he was doing. Or was hacked in which case maybe you password share, or just have bad passwords.
I can accept he may of been using bad language, but that does not mean that excuses your actions. Even if he was rude, that does not excuse what your member did before he started talking to you.
Figure out why that player did it, shed some more light on the cause of the attacks, otherwise for now you are not in a very good place.
Figure out why that player did it, shed some more light on the cause of the attacks, otherwise for now you are not in a very good place.
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FamousJohn8 (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 9:28 p.m.
Also please change title of thread, "big alliances" ive only ever spoke to a few and none would ever speak like that, cheers
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 9:31 p.m.
John is right, Asgar's punctuation is questionable.
It should be perfect when representing your alliance.
It should be perfect when representing your alliance.
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FamousJohn8 (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 9:53 p.m.
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 9:58 p.m.
True, but within the top 10 can be considered big.
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FamousJohn8 (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 10:02 p.m.
look at top 10 bud,Carnifex (GB1) said:True, but within the top 10 can be considered big.
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 10:06 p.m.
Silly me, clearly losing it today, must be the trickery of the title 
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FamousJohn8 (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 10:11 p.m.
lol
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Squyrrel (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 16, 2016, 10:28 p.m.
I've usually found that those in the larger alliances tend to be polite even when being slightly aggressive. They give enough rope for others to hang themselves. Very rarely have I encountered anyone rude at that level.
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 10:49 p.m.
Totally lying!SIDGamer (GB1) said:Hi
I would like to point out that Asgarfighter was contacted by twisted mind concerning an attack by one of our members who was offline at the time.
Asgar wanted to find out what was going on and let twisted know he needed to find out what had prompted the double attack, as the member had never done anything like this before in the several years he has been playing.
twisted became abusive towards Asgar, who was only trying to sort this out and find out why this situation had occurred.
the above does not reflect the language twisted used towards asgar.
sid
1st
Asgard as a real diplomat, the first thing to be said was something like "Sorry for the behavior of my member"
2nd
Asgard tried to protect Bejing by always accusing my 18th level members, insisting that they have done something wrong
3rd
right had to answer to Asgard provocations, while he was sabotaging me and threatening me, and then by declaring war and attacking me..
No wait, i was suppose to say.. "nice you are sabotaging me"... "nice you declare war".. "nice you attacking me"...
"Oh, excuse me... and it was our fault to put 18th level castles in the way Bejing Veteran Demons were heading to"...
"It is only46 level difference... it makes no difference at all!"
"Pardon me for disturbing you!"
Are you out of your Mind.. You are trying to defend what it has no excuse at all!
You were clearly protecting a rules breaker!...
This kind of diplomacy is pure garbage...
Is not diplomacy try promote peace, or promote war..
Asgard never wanted to find out what was going in!
Only defending, his precious "babydoll" or whatever!
Now you are defending Asgard "your precious baby doll"..
And this leads to where!
Nothing!
You do the wrong things and always scratch each others back!
And then threat and attack in the back with your precious rotten rubies..
That is what you are doing!
If Asgard have a little shame on his face, never come here pleading innocence!
Oh, poor me was so bad to him! By trying to defend my members!
I just am a dirty boy..
And you SidGamer if you had a little shame, and some character never come here also...
And, if Bejing is in your alliance for so many years, you are blind, or sleeping cause you just do not know what he is been doing!
And again, you are also lying..
My castle 1 year and 4th months, and in beginning he was in another alliance doing this kind of tricky things..
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 11:02 p.m.
And by the way...
Is it coincidence or not!
The veteran demons that Asgard attacked me, arrived here with no attack tools at all..
In my main and in my outpost...
And, i remember to see when Bejing Veteran Demons were arriving at small castles i spot in alliance attacks that they were bringing no tools also..
So you may all take your conclusions, cause we might be talking about same person here!
I`ve heard somewhere of shells..
Shells that are used for...
In big alliances...
Oh, maybe i was not suppose to say this...
Is it coincidence or not!
The veteran demons that Asgard attacked me, arrived here with no attack tools at all..
In my main and in my outpost...
And, i remember to see when Bejing Veteran Demons were arriving at small castles i spot in alliance attacks that they were bringing no tools also..
So you may all take your conclusions, cause we might be talking about same person here!
I`ve heard somewhere of shells..
Shells that are used for...
In big alliances...
Oh, maybe i was not suppose to say this...
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 11:10 p.m.
Thanks for the advice ImSpecial.imspecial456 (AU1) said:they all do it, i used to be a treasurer for mighty kings, we had 20 members and only 5 were above level 30.
one of our members attacked a member of To The Death, and 5 level 70s from their alliance burned him back.
then me and the diplomat messaged them and said it wasnt fair, then they declared war and every day i would wake up to find i had been triple attacked at 3 in the morning by level 70s, even tough i was only level 40.
in the end i couldnt repair at all, and i was forced to leave the alliance as i couldnt repair and i would just keep getting burned, and i joined The Godz, because i had a friend there that used to be in our alliance, and he said he would help us out, and hreatened war on To The Death, so they stopped altogether
my advice- make friends in even stronger alliances to the ones who are bullying you
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 16, 2016, 11:13 p.m.
TwistedMind (GB1) said:And by the way...
Is it coincidence or not!
The veteran demons that Asgard attacked me, arrived here with no attack tools at all..
In my main and in my outpost...
And, i remember to see when Bejing Veteran Demons were arriving at small castles i spot in alliance attacks that they were bringing no tools also..
So you may all take your conclusions, cause we might be talking about same person here!
I`ve heard somewhere of shells..
Shells that are used for...
Shells or sharing passwords...
In big alliances...
Oh, maybe i was not suppose to say this...
The poor Veteran Demons were just starving and needed urgent food in any way...
Poor creatures!...