Forum: empire-en
Board: [818] General Discussion
Topic: [305778] The way Big Alliances deal with diplomacy! "10th Legion" => This kind of things must be exposed!
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:08 p.m.
Thank you MI, if only you could of been here at the start.
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UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:17 p.m.
@Mildly Insane (GB1) has some great points.
From looking from the outside in - An alliance broke 'fair play' rules for some random reason which is yet unclear.
The the alliance that suffered used abusive language when they didn't received a response in which justified the actions.
The alliance who broke 'fair play' has tried to resolve it getting both sides of the story.. Which you would want to.
Now other players from other alliances are getting involved and are asking for justice ... absolutely pointless.
I am all for backing the underdog and have done on many occasions - but trying to slander a long standing alliance with history over 1 player actions is unacceptable in itself.
The player has been removed. Not sure that Agar and his terrible diplomacy skills have to do with anything now.
On a side note its harder to find players who havent had offers to 'bigger' alliances these days. So that is totally irrelevant.
I believe @TwistedMind (GB1) should go back to the alliance in question and speak amicably to them and I am sure it will be sorted.
~Ultra
From looking from the outside in - An alliance broke 'fair play' rules for some random reason which is yet unclear.
The the alliance that suffered used abusive language when they didn't received a response in which justified the actions.
The alliance who broke 'fair play' has tried to resolve it getting both sides of the story.. Which you would want to.
Now other players from other alliances are getting involved and are asking for justice ... absolutely pointless.
I am all for backing the underdog and have done on many occasions - but trying to slander a long standing alliance with history over 1 player actions is unacceptable in itself.
The player has been removed. Not sure that Agar and his terrible diplomacy skills have to do with anything now.
On a side note its harder to find players who havent had offers to 'bigger' alliances these days. So that is totally irrelevant.
I believe @TwistedMind (GB1) should go back to the alliance in question and speak amicably to them and I am sure it will be sorted.
~Ultra
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Fire Devil (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:18 p.m.
Thanks so much Insane. To be honest, I don't think Asgar should be a diplomat in your alliance, simply because he has no diplomatic skill at all. You have enough diplos and frankly don't need somebody who will just escalate the problem even further.
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:24 p.m.
What to say about this:
<a href="http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/twistedmind_empire/media/Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u490/twistedmind_empire/Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg"/></a>
Take the conclusions you want!
As for Asgard..
You`re just not worthy the pixels i draw here!
Do not talk about anyone else, once it was you the problem that caused all this in this thread..
Your actions speak for yourself.
I am leader of alliance so you must respect me also!
As about attention... oh boy, from my level 12 to 53 i had all attention everyone that everyone desires cause was constantly asked to join bigger alliances related to Crimson and Bsk, including your 10th legion!
I need respect!...
As about what you say your leader been watching, i am not afraid: is ruby power does not have the power to shut me.
And, i wrote this thread about your abusive behavior as a diplomat.. and to prevent it from you do it to someone else in the game!
Now you are being watched bad diplomat!
<a href="http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/twistedmind_empire/media/Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u490/twistedmind_empire/Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg"/></a>
Take the conclusions you want!
As for Asgard..
You`re just not worthy the pixels i draw here!
Do not talk about anyone else, once it was you the problem that caused all this in this thread..
Your actions speak for yourself.
I am leader of alliance so you must respect me also!
As about attention... oh boy, from my level 12 to 53 i had all attention everyone that everyone desires cause was constantly asked to join bigger alliances related to Crimson and Bsk, including your 10th legion!
I need respect!...
As about what you say your leader been watching, i am not afraid: is ruby power does not have the power to shut me.
And, i wrote this thread about your abusive behavior as a diplomat.. and to prevent it from you do it to someone else in the game!
Now you are being watched bad diplomat!
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Mildly Insane (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:27 p.m.
Carnifex and Ultra, thank you for the kind words.
Sadly Carnifex like most people, I can't be online all day and night, every day and night but was online only about an hour after the incident. This sort of escalation, started off with a thread containing only limited information is sad.
As far as I'm concerned justice has been done. The sole account responsible for poor judgement and unfair play has been kicked into no-man's land, had their reputation dragged through the dirt in here by the victims and will find it hard to get a place in a strong alliance if the leads have read this. Tough to come back from that.
This forum's all about adding comments, opinions, advice and support, plus some arguments lol, So the thread has served its purpose on this point! Glad to have cleared stuff up.
MI
Sadly Carnifex like most people, I can't be online all day and night, every day and night but was online only about an hour after the incident. This sort of escalation, started off with a thread containing only limited information is sad.
As far as I'm concerned justice has been done. The sole account responsible for poor judgement and unfair play has been kicked into no-man's land, had their reputation dragged through the dirt in here by the victims and will find it hard to get a place in a strong alliance if the leads have read this. Tough to come back from that.
This forum's all about adding comments, opinions, advice and support, plus some arguments lol, So the thread has served its purpose on this point! Glad to have cleared stuff up.
MI
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Jeffery~West (US1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:33 p.m.
Ok, I am happy now, an explanation from benji was what I wanted and that's what I have got, This will be my last comment here.
I have nothing against your alliance, one of your players I do however, but I can live with that. and will leave it at that.
Best of luck MI
I have nothing against your alliance, one of your players I do however, but I can live with that. and will leave it at that.
Best of luck MI
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:39 p.m.
TwistedMind (GB1) said:What to say about this:
<a href="http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/twistedmind_empire/media/Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u490/twistedmind_empire/Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Captura-1_zpsm8eqajze.jpg"/></a>
Take the conclusions you want!
As for Asgard..
You`re just not worthy the pixels i draw here!
Do not talk about anyone else, once it was you the problem that caused all this in this thread..
Your actions speak for yourself.
I am leader of alliance so you must respect me also!
As about attention... oh boy, from my level 12 to 53 i had all attention everyone that everyone desires cause was constantly asked to join bigger alliances related to Crimson and Bsk, including your 10th legion!
I need respect!...
As about what you say your leader been watching, i am not afraid: is ruby power does not have the power to shut me.
And, i wrote this thread about your abusive behavior as a diplomat.. and to prevent it from you do it to someone else in the game!
Now you are being watched bad diplomat!
Mildly click on the link below and move slides until you find what you wanted yesterday!
So i am defending my alliance from illegal attacks, i am sabotaged and attacked by a bad diplomat that puts war on..
And you still come here and still talk about abusive language..
That is why ignored button to not get into further issues.. if i do not agree with you and you are putting to your side without having perception of being at my side.. is better to ignore and avoid further issues.
The rest i did not spoke nothing bad about you..
This is my last comment also!
The purpose of this thread was always to expose and end this kind of diplomacy that was leaded by Asgard and still present in some Big Alliances.
We have to respect every player from low level to high level, no matter in what alliance is.
And it is not for being in a big alliance that you try to impose and crush others.. and worst try to silence them when they try to defend their rights!..
Title stays because of Asgard behavior!
Not touching it!
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UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 17, 2016, 4:59 p.m.
This is normally where it stems from, a lesser alliance trying to hold a morale high ground by showing they are in the wrong but not respecting bigger alliances and slandering them online.TwistedMind (GB1) said:
We have to respect every player from low level to high level, no matter in what alliance is.
Title stays because of Asgard behavior!
Not touching it!
The thread itself was worth while but the names could of been left out - works both ways ... Yeah an alliance is 'name and shamed' but the respect is lost for the alliance thats doing it.
You never know when forum threads come back to haunt you.
~Ultra
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Fire Devil (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:01 p.m.
Please can @CM Arcanine or @Wicked please close this thread, because everything is sorted and I don't want any more trouble string up.
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WiteLighting (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:05 p.m.
A war would be nice, I would join the fun 
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Mildly Insane (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:05 p.m.
Our only communication was me trying to sort the situation out, me answering your messages and me offering you direct assistance and advice; no abuse from me. So blocking me was pretty pointless and immature.
The reason you got sabb'd and attacked by 1 player was because you directly abused that player, who had (read the first post you made and check the words you copied into it from Asgar) asked you to wait until we spoke to the player and asked you if you knew if your players had annoyed Benjig. That was the correct way to deal with it at that point.
And that's that, facts, not misinterpretation or angry nonsense.
Strange too, we just had a request to join The 10th Legion from a player who has called their Ice castle 'Mildly_Insain' (yes, spelled that badly). And how odd and random that a player calling their Ice castle (given the level of the player, that's just been done) by the same name as MY ACCOUNT NAME, has requested joining The 10th Legion. LMFAO.
I love this game lol. Good luck with leading your alliance, respect.
MI
The reason you got sabb'd and attacked by 1 player was because you directly abused that player, who had (read the first post you made and check the words you copied into it from Asgar) asked you to wait until we spoke to the player and asked you if you knew if your players had annoyed Benjig. That was the correct way to deal with it at that point.
And that's that, facts, not misinterpretation or angry nonsense.
Strange too, we just had a request to join The 10th Legion from a player who has called their Ice castle 'Mildly_Insain' (yes, spelled that badly). And how odd and random that a player calling their Ice castle (given the level of the player, that's just been done) by the same name as MY ACCOUNT NAME, has requested joining The 10th Legion. LMFAO.
I love this game lol. Good luck with leading your alliance, respect.
MI
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:09 p.m.
Ultra,UltraFlavoured (GB1) said:This is normally where it stems from, a lesser alliance trying to hold a morale high ground by showing they are in the wrong but not respecting bigger alliances and slandering them online.TwistedMind (GB1) said:
We have to respect every player from low level to high level, no matter in what alliance is.
Title stays because of Asgard behavior!
Not touching it!
The thread itself was worth while but the names could of been left out - works both ways ... Yeah an alliance is 'name and shamed' but the respect is lost for the alliance thats doing it.
You never know when forum threads come back to haunt you.
~Ultra
i am not worried with that!
I played this game a little more than one year, and never messed with no one!
So i am not gonna change that in future..
Always learn and respected rules of fair play.
So gonna keep that in future also!..
So not afraid if forum hunts me or not!
And, do not really care if people gonna dislike me or not!
As a non ruby i conquered so many things that i am satisfied as a player and do not need any others attention!
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UltraFlavoured (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:17 p.m.
Now I can see why players haven't responded in the way you wanted when you wanted.
I might do a Carnifex and message.... oh what you are leader
.
I am glad the situation is resolved. Carry on being a proud non-ruby player conquering your many different achievements.
Now this is over - You going to work on that castle ?
~Ultra
I might do a Carnifex and message.... oh what you are leader
.I am glad the situation is resolved. Carry on being a proud non-ruby player conquering your many different achievements.
Now this is over - You going to work on that castle ?
~Ultra
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TwistedMind (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:17 p.m.
What you say is no argument to start a war with anyone, specially someone asking for explanations of a problem caused by your alliance..Mildly Insane (GB1) said:Our only communication was me trying to sort the situation out, me answering your messages and me offering you direct assistance and advice; no abuse from me. So blocking me was pretty pointless and immature.
The reason you got sabb'd and attacked by 1 player was because you directly abused that player, who had (read the first post you made and check the words you copied into it from Asgar) asked you to wait until we spoke to the player and asked you if you knew if your players had annoyed Benjig. That was the correct way to deal with it at that point.
And that's that, facts, not misinterpretation or angry nonsense.
Strange too, we just had a request to join The 10th Legion from a player who has called their Ice castle 'Mildly_Insain' (yes, spelled that badly). And how odd and random that a player calling their Ice castle (given the level of the player, that's just been done) by the same name as MY ACCOUNT NAME, has requested joining The 10th Legion. LMFAO.
I love this game lol. Good luck with leading your alliance, respect.
MI
If Asgard was not able to keep deal with me, and i only answered to his provocations that was always assuming that we did something wrong, he should pass to another diplomat more mature..
Not did what he did!
It is wrong!..
See why ignored.. you push your side, i push mine and we get to nowhere.
But ignore does not mean that i am going to disrespect you..
No it is way to put it behind your back and forget it.
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Mildly Insane (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:41 p.m.
I haven't pushed any side, I'm providing facts. You contacted at least 4 players, 3 of which you were talking to at the same time and who were talking to each other in chat and p/m. I was dealing with it.
Asgar reacted to your abuse; have I missed the abuse he was sending you that you were going to copy to me? At the exact same time you were calling him names and getting attacked, you had messages from me saying we're looking into it, send screen shots to me and hold on while we talk to the player. The correct approach.
I go back to what I said first message, if you'd have been more patient (as the damage had been done and buttons pressed) and dealt with someone who you weren't having a row with (like me), and just waited, it would've been sorted out.
I think Ultra said it best above when he said, "Now I can see why players haven't responded in the way you wanted when you wanted."
You've had your say, I'm not sure you have much support left in terms of respect now, regardless of what was done, by who and whether or not it was right or wrong. That's my last post here so have more of your say if you like...
MI
Asgar reacted to your abuse; have I missed the abuse he was sending you that you were going to copy to me? At the exact same time you were calling him names and getting attacked, you had messages from me saying we're looking into it, send screen shots to me and hold on while we talk to the player. The correct approach.
I go back to what I said first message, if you'd have been more patient (as the damage had been done and buttons pressed) and dealt with someone who you weren't having a row with (like me), and just waited, it would've been sorted out.
I think Ultra said it best above when he said, "Now I can see why players haven't responded in the way you wanted when you wanted."
You've had your say, I'm not sure you have much support left in terms of respect now, regardless of what was done, by who and whether or not it was right or wrong. That's my last post here so have more of your say if you like...
MI
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mightymike2000 (GB1) (Banned) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:45 p.m.
The problem is solved and the thread should be closed.
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John OGroat (GB1) [GB1]
:: April 17, 2016, 5:54 p.m.
A very interesting thread, and just goes to show that diplomats should be chosen from those with the required skills, unless you want problems escalated instead of resolved.
Diplomacy also takes time for both sides to gather all the facts, so that should be allowed before hitting the red button regardless of who is in the right or wrong.
Diplomacy also takes time for both sides to gather all the facts, so that should be allowed before hitting the red button regardless of who is in the right or wrong.
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WiteLighting (GB1) [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 8:22 p.m.
GB1 had a server war last year. 6 months of the big ruby buyers playing as dirty as they can. It was a very big deal, because people have seen what can happen when something starts as just a normal war they try their damn hardest to stop one happening, but maybe someone tried a little too hard here and just made things worst.
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Wicked [None]
:: April 17, 2016, 10:15 p.m.
By request of the poster of this topic,
this topic will be closed.
this topic will be closed.