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Topic: [306070] Burning Castles

[4394021] tumeke (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 1:09 a.m.
lol

[4394024] orion21 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 25, 2016, 1:16 a.m.
Possible solution: but would require GGE to implement.
After LOSING an attack (not sab) on any of your castles (i.e. castle on fire) you automatically go into protection mode, until your buildings are repaired or for set period of time. There will be a delay before protection mode starts. If you break protection mode yourself by attacking you are fair game.


GGE would not do this as this would stop attacks on players which means less rubies spent on tools etc.

The burning castle rule is quite simple I think. If its on fire don't attack it. GIVE the player time to rebuild and repair. NOT 2 WEEKS LIKE SOME ALLIANCES GIVE PLAYERS. MOST people have a real life and play this game when they can. They don't live their life by what happens on this game and get excited by burning people out of the game and than lie about it.  YES I agree players hide behind fires but if they dont wnat to rebuild staright away, why should they be attacked there again...Its only weak gutless spineless acts from certain players who unfortunately  will try and dictate all sorts of terms to benefit their alliance while using intimidating tactics on  other allainces to either follow what they want or get burnt constantly if you dare stand up to them. They then can make unfounded accusations about alliances using multi accounts. IF THEIR IS PROOF THEN BAN THEM ASAP and I will certainly help OR GGE shouldmake every player change their password through their email address. That would knock a few so called multis off.......otherwise slander is low act and just makes these players who throw these accusations look even more pathetic.

ALSO while they mass attack an understrength alliance and constantly hit burning castles and then get messages saying that it will keep happening and that they do not care about the fire rule....well its hard to then follow rules at all. BUT then again this is happening from members of a top alliance so there will be justification on why they mass attack 15 burning castles. 2 players are now quitting the game of being burnt out every 3 days by an alliance because they claim they are hiding behind fires. These players play 3 times per week at best. Very hard to rebuild when this happens!

I will go now as I never wanted to respond in forums but I have had enough of the unfounded lies and treatment of players getting burnt out of the game by RIGHTOUS AND MIGHTY PLAYERS from allainces that break rules to suit them yet can justify each and every rule they break.  I will now go and get prepared to get massed attacked for the next few days as best as I can and while my REAL LIFE PERMITS as I have now spoken up against these players. Like a few others who have spoken up as well, time to get the fire brigade ready :)

[4394029] orion21 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 25, 2016, 1:23 a.m.
jj,
Bigfeet was not a member (or has visited) this alliance for the past 3 days. I have also checked the log. It is as Nam has previously stated.
You can either believe me or not.

I have looked back through the log as well and no Bigfeet has not been in Barsterds. in last 3-4days  He was booted from Undertakers for some reasons which you know JJ,

[4394048] BedeGiles (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 2:12 a.m.
Possible solution: but would require GGE to implement.
After LOSING an attack (not sab) on any of your castles (i.e. castle on fire) you automatically go into protection mode, until your buildings are repaired or for set period of time. There will be a delay before protection mode starts. If you break protection mode yourself by attacking you are fair game.


GGE would not do this as this would stop attacks on players which means less rubies spent on tools etc.

The burning castle rule is quite simple I think. If its on fire don't attack it. GIVE the player time to rebuild and repair. NOT 2 WEEKS LIKE SOME ALLIANCES GIVE PLAYERS. MOST people have a real life and play this game when they can. They don't live their life by what happens on this game and get excited by burning people out of the game and than lie about it.  YES I agree players hide behind fires but if they dont wnat to rebuild staright away, why should they be attacked there again...Its only weak gutless spineless acts from certain players who unfortunately  will try and dictate all sorts of terms to benefit their alliance while using intimidating tactics on  other allainces to either follow what they want or get burnt constantly if you dare stand up to them. They then can make unfounded accusations about alliances using multi accounts. IF THEIR IS PROOF THEN BAN THEM ASAP and I will certainly help OR GGE shouldmake every player change their password through their email address. That would knock a few so called multis off.......otherwise slander is low act and just makes these players who throw these accusations look even more pathetic.

ALSO while they mass attack an understrength alliance and constantly hit burning castles and then get messages saying that it will keep happening and that they do not care about the fire rule....well its hard to then follow rules at all. BUT then again this is happening from members of a top alliance so there will be justification on why they mass attack 15 burning castles. 2 players are now quitting the game of being burnt out every 3 days by an alliance because they claim they are hiding behind fires. These players play 3 times per week at best. Very hard to rebuild when this happens!

I will go now as I never wanted to respond in forums but I have had enough of the unfounded lies and treatment of players getting burnt out of the game by RIGHTOUS AND MIGHTY PLAYERS from allainces that break rules to suit them yet can justify each and every rule they break.  I will now go and get prepared to get massed attacked for the next few days as best as I can and while my REAL LIFE PERMITS as I have now spoken up against these players. Like a few others who have spoken up as well, time to get the fire brigade ready :)
@orion21 (AU1)  

- It's Libel not Slander.
- Who is quitting the game, are they a level 70-5 Duke who only logs on to send demons, I think they probably quit a long time ago no point lamenting their castle going into ruins 1 year late?
- Yes, we do report the people we think are doing it but GGE doesn't give feedback on those reports - and its hard to know if you hit the nail on the head. Also spamming reports to GGE you can face disciplinary action if you are wrong.

The whole , because you're "the biggest alliance on the server'' thing doesn't mean that when you stand up to us you can do whatever the hell you want and not get it dished back at you. In fact you already have 2 large alliances of similar size to Seps joined together to fight us - what disadvantage do you supposedly have? If I add Little Basterds+ Basterds + Undertakers together you out number us considerably. Yet still cry foul that you are bullied?

You cant take us on one day and then when you get your fingers burnt cry to the server that we are evil. Its the name of the game. We've had long standing battles with multiple alliances that mostly stayed above board, I wonder why they stayed above board? Was it because we are now evil but weren't then? Or is it because whenever we have a battle with you you start your tactics. Once those tactics are started we must emulate them to succeed - which is what you are seeing.

- Take note we didn't hit under 30 clicks before you did, and we didn't tool rake before you did: also we only tool raked back to @Wedgy Whacker (AU1)  showing some self control not to initiate vs the rest of you. 

Spamming that we are righteous and mighty players in full caps, smacks of self righteousness itself lol.

Please take into account timelines for rule breaking. If you break it first, you bought it. So tiring hearing this rules stuff.

Regards

PS: It seems which ever alliance holds the Capital is in-veritably the guilty, evil, dirty alliance according to some. I wonder why?

[4394055] orion21 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 25, 2016, 2:33 a.m.
Possible solution: but would require GGE to implement.
After LOSING an attack (not sab) on any of your castles (i.e. castle on fire) you automatically go into protection mode, until your buildings are repaired or for set period of time. There will be a delay before protection mode starts. If you break protection mode yourself by attacking you are fair game.


GGE would not do this as this would stop attacks on players which means less rubies spent on tools etc.

The burning castle rule is quite simple I think. If its on fire don't attack it. GIVE the player time to rebuild and repair. NOT 2 WEEKS LIKE SOME ALLIANCES GIVE PLAYERS. MOST people have a real life and play this game when they can. They don't live their life by what happens on this game and get excited by burning people out of the game and than lie about it.  YES I agree players hide behind fires but if they dont wnat to rebuild staright away, why should they be attacked there again...Its only weak gutless spineless acts from certain players who unfortunately  will try and dictate all sorts of terms to benefit their alliance while using intimidating tactics on  other allainces to either follow what they want or get burnt constantly if you dare stand up to them. They then can make unfounded accusations about alliances using multi accounts. IF THEIR IS PROOF THEN BAN THEM ASAP and I will certainly help OR GGE shouldmake every player change their password through their email address. That would knock a few so called multis off.......otherwise slander is low act and just makes these players who throw these accusations look even more pathetic.

ALSO while they mass attack an understrength alliance and constantly hit burning castles and then get messages saying that it will keep happening and that they do not care about the fire rule....well its hard to then follow rules at all. BUT then again this is happening from members of a top alliance so there will be justification on why they mass attack 15 burning castles. 2 players are now quitting the game of being burnt out every 3 days by an alliance because they claim they are hiding behind fires. These players play 3 times per week at best. Very hard to rebuild when this happens!

I will go now as I never wanted to respond in forums but I have had enough of the unfounded lies and treatment of players getting burnt out of the game by RIGHTOUS AND MIGHTY PLAYERS from allainces that break rules to suit them yet can justify each and every rule they break.  I will now go and get prepared to get massed attacked for the next few days as best as I can and while my REAL LIFE PERMITS as I have now spoken up against these players. Like a few others who have spoken up as well, time to get the fire brigade ready :)
@orion21 (AU1)  

- It's Libel not Slander.
- Who is quitting the game, are they a level 70-5 Duke who only logs on to send demons, I think they probably quit a long time ago no point lamenting their castle going into ruins 1 year late?
- Yes, we do report the people we think are doing it but GGE doesn't give feedback on those reports - and its hard to know if you hit the nail on the head. Also spamming reports to GGE you can face disciplinary action if you are wrong.

The whole , because you're "the biggest alliance on the server'' thing doesn't mean that when you stand up to us you can do whatever the hell you want and not get it dished back at you. In fact you already have 2 large alliances of similar size to Seps joined together to fight us - what disadvantage do you supposedly have? If I add Little Basterds+ Basterds + Undertakers together you out number us considerably. Yet still cry foul that you are bullied?

You cant take us on one day and then when you get your fingers burnt cry to the server that we are evil. Its the name of the game. We've had long standing battles with multiple alliances that mostly stayed above board, I wonder why they stayed above board? Was it because we are now evil but weren't then? Or is it because whenever we have a battle with you you start your tactics. Once those tactics are started we must emulate them to succeed - which is what you are seeing.

- Take note we didn't hit under 30 clicks before you did, and we didn't tool rake before you did: also we only tool raked back to @Wedgy Whacker (AU1)  showing some self control not to initiate vs the rest of you. 

Spamming that we are righteous and mighty players in full caps, smacks of self righteousness itself lol.

Please take into account timelines for rule breaking. If you break it first, you bought it. So tiring hearing this rules stuff.

Regards

PS: It seems which ever alliance holds the Capital is in-veritably the guilty, evil, dirty alliance according to some. I wonder why?

Hmm I am confused. I didn't mention any alliance names at all  so why defensive? As for the 2 players quitting, They are not in ruins and have not attacked anyone for weeks. They cannot even rebuild troops without getting constantly hit  every 3 days as they are "Hiding behind their fires." Facts a fact.

Also BedeGiles I am glad you do report players who you think are multi accounts etc. I do as well, and even with proof from that alliance sent to GGE   they are still spending massive money on moving their castle and buying troops and attacking. Oh well

[4394059] BedeGiles (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 2:37 a.m.
Orion21: "Hmm I am confused. I didn't mention any alliance names at all  so why defensive? As for the 2 players quitting, They are not in ruins and have not attacked anyone for weeks. They cannot even rebuild troops without getting constantly hit  every 3 days as they are "Hiding behind their fires." Facts a fact."


If you aren't referring to us, who are you referring to. Why are you confused?



[4394296] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 10:13 a.m.
@orion21 (AU1)
@Nambala (AU1)
@makale (AU1)

No offense,

We didn't start this, sure we sat up and you got our attention when you bought demons to send at us, we sent a few back at you and if it continues we will send more, you will send more.  Thats just a given as I'm sure you would agree.....  But to what point?  What are we going to acheive....

We dont have these problems with other alliances, I've said that a few times.  At some point in time you have to ask yourself if its all us, or is it something that is wrong in your approach that causes you to have these problems....  FK, we have to ask that question as well, lets be honest here, 2 way street on that one isnt it. 

ALL alliances do things that are wrong or unfair, biggest strength we have in seps, IMO is Pete and VB who dont give 2 fks they will tell you how it is and tell you to not do something as its wrong, likewise someone complains they will tell that person they dont give 2 fks and where to go as well.  They are absolutely 100% straight as a pole and make a spoon look like a sharp object when they give their opinions.  We have never gone off and let go of all rules against an alliance or an individual.  Never, and they really are informal rules, but never have we let go of them 100% and gone all out as your claiming your doing to fight fire with fire....  VB/P14 wouldn't allow it at all.  Sometimes they have allowed things and afterwards wont allow them again, any talk of it gets shutdown fast as anything, they have learnt from past mistakes more often than not. 

However as Bede pointed out, you tell us what we started here, at what point did we do something first.  We have been their made mistakes and as an alliance learnt from them....  We try not to start fighting dirty because we know where it ends and it isnt pretty. 

@jennyj (AU1) said it so many times that she has told her guys "no rules" and that she has to "fight fires with fires".....

If your the only alliance on the server that has this problem with us, why is that?  If this approach continues, what im talking about here is trying to claim the moral high ground while the leader of the alliance is saying no rules and fight fire with fire etc....  What does that say?

Again, our biggest issue is the name calling.  Thats the #1 priority for us.  Yea sure we dish them out as well, however we get it so much it isnt funny. 

What is it about your approach that causes you to have these problems....  I've been alot more assertive here on the forums that I was via PM's early on, I was polite and stfu when i wanted to go off trying to look for a solution and trying to be passive to let you guys have some for of control over the direction just putting different ideas up looking for a way forward.  It was only at the end when I pretty much gave up that I told Jenny how I felt the conversation was going and dont think I was overly rude when i did that either....

Look at what has caused the faults and address that before getting back to others.  Be totally honest as well, it will suck, but if you dont do that nothing gets solved and you have no capacity to move forward and address the issues you are having as an alliance in dealing with other alliances, in this instance, us. 

At present people from Imperium and Second Sons have come across to throw a few hits here and there at us.  Half of UT's is rotating in and out of TB to do the same.  What about your approach towards us with getting your pacts/allies to assist you here is working out for you? 

Everyone, us included needs to sit the fk back and figure out what we want out of this.  You want to keep going down this path your not going to gain anything.  You want to keep pointing the finger, let me go first at pointing it for you, we are a miserable bunch of fkers for you to deal with and I get you hate us at the moment.  If I was on the receiving side I would as well, I would think we were the scum of the earth if I was in your shoes.  I've said it for you, now, get over it and move on and figure out what you want form being here on the forums and talking. 

Where do you want to go from here?  What do you want?

If its much the same then your missing out on spending money on something that has benifits beyond pixels.  I'll put it this way, would you hop on a plane and fly across the tasaman sea, find the biggest gail force wind you can and piss into that for shits and gigles then fly home?  Because continuing to spend money on this game like is happening on your end your getting nothing long term and after pissing into the wind you get on the plane and go home without gaining anything from that money spent, you dont see anything new or gain any real life experiences from spending that money that you can brag to anyone about, nothing you do here you will EVER brag about to your kids or grandkids and show them photos of. 

Again, where do you want to go from here?  What do you want?


JJ. 

[4394469] Wedgy Whacker (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 1:54 p.m.
@Wedgy Whacker (AU1) stop, just get off the forums.
you admitted to tool cleaning and you are just making it worse for yourself.

that would never work, GGE dont care, they didnt make the burning castle rules, it was players who made them. GGS dont care if burning castles are being attacked or not
I except that GGE would probably not be bothered in implementing my suggestion. As for your other comment, you do seem to do a lot of talking, perhaps you should concentrate on playing the game more and get in the top 1000 for the week.

[4395017] makale (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 10:12 p.m.
@JJJJJJSK (AU1) 

Greeting and Salutations, please see the following

Where do you want to go from here?  What do you want? .....well let me see, well i would like to go on a nice holiday somewhere, and have an Aston Martin to drive, but not going to happen...oh pardon me, i was being facetious !!
Right then down to business.
Give us your definition of bullying
Give us your definition of a burning castle (which does not involve completely redesigning the castle!)
We are all ( the other alliances...well apart from newbies who do not know any better) agreed on RV,OP and Monument stealing - that is a big no no
Name calling (however you look at it!!) is out. Including the very clever(??) plays on alliances names (no name no pack drills)
Making accusations which cannot be substantiated.
Right got that out the way, now to answer your last posting.. No i don't think i have the energy or the will to be quite honest. But i thought the final paragraph was particularly entertaining, very allegorical, metaphorical and all things "al"
I await with bated breath your reply

[4395049] orion21 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 25, 2016, 10:28 p.m.
@orion21 (AU1)
@Nambala (AU1)
@makale (AU1)

No offense,

We didn't start this, sure we sat up and you got our attention when you bought demons to send at us, we sent a few back at you and if it continues we will send more, you will send more.  Thats just a given as I'm sure you would agree.....  But to what point?  What are we going to acheive....

We dont have these problems with other alliances, I've said that a few times.  At some point in time you have to ask yourself if its all us, or is it something that is wrong in your approach that causes you to have these problems....  FK, we have to ask that question as well, lets be honest here, 2 way street on that one isnt it. 

ALL alliances do things that are wrong or unfair, biggest strength we have in seps, IMO is Pete and VB who dont give 2 fks they will tell you how it is and tell you to not do something as its wrong, likewise someone complains they will tell that person they dont give 2 fks and where to go as well.  They are absolutely 100% straight as a pole and make a spoon look like a sharp object when they give their opinions.  We have never gone off and let go of all rules against an alliance or an individual.  Never, and they really are informal rules, but never have we let go of them 100% and gone all out as your claiming your doing to fight fire with fire....  VB/P14 wouldn't allow it at all.  Sometimes they have allowed things and afterwards wont allow them again, any talk of it gets shutdown fast as anything, they have learnt from past mistakes more often than not. 

However as Bede pointed out, you tell us what we started here, at what point did we do something first.  We have been their made mistakes and as an alliance learnt from them....  We try not to start fighting dirty because we know where it ends and it isnt pretty. 

@jennyj (AU1) said it so many times that she has told her guys "no rules" and that she has to "fight fires with fires".....

If your the only alliance on the server that has this problem with us, why is that?  If this approach continues, what im talking about here is trying to claim the moral high ground while the leader of the alliance is saying no rules and fight fire with fire etc....  What does that say?

Again, our biggest issue is the name calling.  Thats the #1 priority for us.  Yea sure we dish them out as well, however we get it so much it isnt funny. 

What is it about your approach that causes you to have these problems....  I've been alot more assertive here on the forums that I was via PM's early on, I was polite and stfu when i wanted to go off trying to look for a solution and trying to be passive to let you guys have some for of control over the direction just putting different ideas up looking for a way forward.  It was only at the end when I pretty much gave up that I told Jenny how I felt the conversation was going and dont think I was overly rude when i did that either....

Look at what has caused the faults and address that before getting back to others.  Be totally honest as well, it will suck, but if you dont do that nothing gets solved and you have no capacity to move forward and address the issues you are having as an alliance in dealing with other alliances, in this instance, us. 

At present people from Imperium and Second Sons have come across to throw a few hits here and there at us.  Half of UT's is rotating in and out of TB to do the same.  What about your approach towards us with getting your pacts/allies to assist you here is working out for you? 

Everyone, us included needs to sit the fk back and figure out what we want out of this.  You want to keep going down this path your not going to gain anything.  You want to keep pointing the finger, let me go first at pointing it for you, we are a miserable bunch of fkers for you to deal with and I get you hate us at the moment.  If I was on the receiving side I would as well, I would think we were the scum of the earth if I was in your shoes.  I've said it for you, now, get over it and move on and figure out what you want form being here on the forums and talking. 

Where do you want to go from here?  What do you want?

If its much the same then your missing out on spending money on something that has benifits beyond pixels.  I'll put it this way, would you hop on a plane and fly across the tasaman sea, find the biggest gail force wind you can and piss into that for shits and gigles then fly home?  Because continuing to spend money on this game like is happening on your end your getting nothing long term and after pissing into the wind you get on the plane and go home without gaining anything from that money spent, you dont see anything new or gain any real life experiences from spending that money that you can brag to anyone about, nothing you do here you will EVER brag about to your kids or grandkids and show them photos of. 

Again, where do you want to go from here?  What do you want?

he will keep looting
JJ. 
Honestly JJ from my point of view I have no idea what a  way forward while you continue to justify everything that players do to suit you needs and beliefs.  I spoke to you through PM 2 nights ago and while you are very reasonable to talk to, you still found ways to Justify why a member of your alliance was attacking out of a badly burning castle. And you were completely wrong.

3 players have now left the game because of constant hitting of burning castles. They cannot play 24/7 like most players seem to do here so they cannot put fires out quickly. Then they get hit agin and again and because apparently they are hiding behind fires. Then unfortunaly one players is told that he will be continued to be used as a loot if players don't go back to Undertakers.......WHO the         $%^& are they to tell us where we play and what alliance to play in. 

Untill heads are taken out of the sand uinfortunatley more players will be burnt out of the game which is crap. 

[4395055] BedeGiles (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 10:29 p.m.
I actually love the Basterds. Its a musky manly love, camp fires, geetars, horses and mustaches kinda love.. any of you guys wanna rasstle?

[4395064] makale (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 10:33 p.m.
@BedeGiles (AU1) 

Only if you bring the baby oil !!!

[4395078] BedeGiles (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 10:45 p.m.
I have heaps of baby oil, have shares in johnsons and johnsons. no tears baby.

[4395081] makale (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 10:52 p.m.
frikkin awesome !!!

[4395091] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 11:13 p.m.
Honestly JJ from my point of view I have no idea what a  way forward while you continue to justify everything that players do to suit you needs and beliefs.  I spoke to you through PM 2 nights ago and while you are very reasonable to talk to, you still found ways to Justify why a member of your alliance was attacking out of a badly burning castle. And you were completely wrong.

3 players have now left the game because of constant hitting of burning castles. They cannot play 24/7 like most players seem to do here so they cannot put fires out quickly. Then they get hit agin and again and because apparently they are hiding behind fires. Then unfortunaly one players is told that he will be continued to be used as a loot if players don't go back to Undertakers.......WHO the         $%^& are they to tell us where we play and what alliance to play in. 

Untill heads are taken out of the sand uinfortunatley more players will be burnt out of the game which is crap. 
@orion21 (AU1) "

Were both in that same situation really, we will always justify our position.  Its just a reality, to deny it is when your telling fibs.  @jennyj (AU1) saying she had told her guys fight fire with fire etc etc.  Justifying her actions and her alliances actions.

You get bucketloads of skips, use them load them up with reso and get those fires fixed.  I cant help you if those players are inactive or dead accounts that are just used to recruit defenders to defend your management.  Something you gotta take up with your puppet masters that runs those accounts.

 Oh Noes more baseless accusations!  But I should pull my head outta the sand ?

@JJJJJJSK (AU1) 

Greeting and Salutations, please see the following

Where do you want to go from here?  What do you want? .....well let me see, well i would like to go on a nice holiday somewhere, and have an Aston Martin to drive, but not going to happen...oh pardon me, i was being facetious !!
Right then down to business.
Give us your definition of bullying
Give us your definition of a burning castle (which does not involve completely redesigning the castle!)
We are all ( the other alliances...well apart from newbies who do not know any better) agreed on RV,OP and Monument stealing - that is a big no no
Name calling (however you look at it!!) is out. Including the very clever(??) plays on alliances names (no name no pack drills)
Making accusations which cannot be substantiated.
Right got that out the way, now to answer your last posting.. No i don't think i have the energy or the will to be quite honest. But i thought the final paragraph was particularly entertaining, very allegorical, metaphorical and all things "al"
I await with bated breath your reply
@makale (AU1)
So much that we all agree on I'm not going to go over it again, yeap we agree, solved.

Bullying:
What we were accused of against UT's thats all of a sudden TB & UT's decided was fine to do against us, band together with people floating in from Second Sons & Imperium to throw a few hits out.  This definition will change to suit who ever is throwing it about at the time, we both know this.

Burning Castle:
Been given a few times, if a defender isnt willing to rebuild and just wants to run attackers then those fires mean nothing.


JJ

[4395098] makale (AU1) [None] :: April 25, 2016, 11:34 p.m.
@JJJJJJSK (AU1) 

Fine, all good. So down to 2 points (still). But no problem, still moving forwards (albeit slowly, but baby steps!!) I got well and truly clobbered by Pete14 in GE. Everything on fire, that's cool (or hot??) because he did it on his own. But when 2 players work as a team to hit the same player(s) ie, one takes the main and the other goes for outposts (at virtually the same time), then, me for one would regard that as bullying. One on one, mano a mano etc. Of course people will send support, that is what an alliance is for. And, given the strength of the comms these days, you need the support.
If you get caught attacking from a burning castle, as ye sow, so shall ye reap !!!! But please bear in mind that some of the players do actually work, and can only get on for a few hours a day, also some of us have fun in RL (me for example) and cant be on 24/7 (where did that expression come from anyway..i think it is text talk for all day..but i digress). If a castle is on fire and the owner is letting the fires burn to build back up a defence force, or even recruiting attackers, so long as he/she does not attack another player, but uses the troops to get resources to help put the fires out, how do you guard against this. That part of the game comes down the individuals honesty.
As for people drifting in and out, we always welcome friends to share in prizes, we have the room, so what is inherently wrong with that. We could ask them to refrain from launching attacks (on other alliances whilst they are with us), but that is above my pay grade.
When you were a kid, did you play a game called blind mans buff? so are we getting closer??

[4395117] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 26, 2016, 12:27 a.m.
@makale (AU1)

http://prnt.sc/auari2

I wont buy those demons to fill 7 attacks against one player, yours that I come up aginst will.  All in 8 attacks your looking at 2k per attack on average 14k troups comming at me, from memory a fair bit of remoresless range as well, around 2k.  I accept it, its a war game, not really fair but I dealt with it and moved on. 

Sorry, I've got 2-3 comms I can send against other people in PVP, not 7.  I wont be denied using good comms to attack someone in multiple places like what your gents were doing.  Nor will I deny our guys that option by saying we wont hit together.  In comparison, our demon purchases have been piddly compared to yours and you know it. 

This suits you for it to be in place, you have multiple whales at with Gach/Sissy/MM/Stevep/Robdog/Stevej66 who all bulk bought demons throughout.  If you dont like this stratergy that we employ, I had UT's with 3 out of 4 players sending from buring before the last war with the same landing time on me on 5 places. 

When people show us a tactic we tend to just tend to be better at it, move on, we wont stop doing this. 

You have a core group of UT players in your alliance.  You are merged from our perspective and your behviour as a group would indicate this as well.  If I blind fold you and you hear a barking sound and ask you to identify what animal it is do you tell me its a dog?  More to the point would you beleive me when I told you it was actually a cat. 

You are merged, simple. 


JJ

[4395153] makale (AU1) [None] :: April 26, 2016, 1:43 a.m.
Sorry jj,
I don't follow. All i can see in that screen shot is an attack coming in and lots of support heading for you. Ahh, i see what you mean now. When was that?
I am afraid i can't speak for other members of the alliance when you say they are ruby whales, i suppose it is up to them to spend what they like. However, it is pure conjecture on your part to presume what they spend their rubies on. But i wonder how many of YOUR alliance would be considered ruby whales ??
The last war with UT, was, by definition, the LAST war. If you have proof positive, that they doing the same thing now, then bring it to Jen's attention.
As far as i am aware, there has been no merger (but that could have happened way above my pay grade. All i can say is that as far as I am concerned no merger has taken place.
I tend to take people at face value, so with your last paragraph, unless i can actually see what is making the noise, i would not commit to an answer, it is a funny old world don't you think ? (or it could be a tape recording of a dog attached to the cat!!)

[4395155] makale (AU1) [None] :: April 26, 2016, 1:46 a.m.
@JJJJJJSK (AU1) 

Do you have answers to my next to last message? Because you do not seem to really have answered it. I have no objections to what comm you or anyone else uses. I merely pointed out that it takes a lot more to defend against them.

[4395661] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 26, 2016, 12:33 p.m.
Sorry jj,
I don't follow. All i can see in that screen shot is an attack coming in and lots of support heading for you. Ahh, i see what you mean now. When was that?
I am afraid i can't speak for other members of the alliance when you say they are ruby whales, i suppose it is up to them to spend what they like. However, it is pure conjecture on your part to presume what they spend their rubies on. But i wonder how many of YOUR alliance would be considered ruby whales ??
The last war with UT, was, by definition, the LAST war. If you have proof positive, that they doing the same thing now, then bring it to Jen's attention.
As far as i am aware, there has been no merger (but that could have happened way above my pay grade. All i can say is that as far as I am concerned no merger has taken place.
I tend to take people at face value, so with your last paragraph, unless i can actually see what is making the noise, i would not commit to an answer, it is a funny old world don't you think ? (or it could be a tape recording of a dog attached to the cat!!)
@makale (AU1)

The one thing that stands out to me is that those questions are above your pay grade.  If your unable to speak for your alliance there is no point having this convo.  I invite someone who is to get involved. 

BTW, this is an example of what we deal with regarding saying one thing and doing another.  @jennyj (AU1) asked me regarding tool raker set ups and said we should stop on the defensive side. 

http://prnt.sc/ax10ej

Thats her set up for every castle in GE this morning.  Also got TB alliance description, its ok to say its not acceptable but then to go and do it?  At least we dont pretend on this one lol

Then the latest just launched, you guys really are serious about saying one thign and doing another arent you lol....
http://prnt.sc/ax19fd
http://prnt.sc/ax19l2


JJ