Forum: empire-en
Board: [818] General Discussion
Topic: [311646] Are we also partly to blame? [RVs will be main focus point]
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serpentine (GB1) [GB1]
:: July 1, 2016, 4:49 p.m.
an interesting consideration ,but at the moment the current set up prevents by and large rv thefts. many players chase the spawns - and on a first come first serve ownership is claimed. many players will hand back to owner when multiple hits occur. other games I have played the strong take what they want - when they want and its tough luck for everyone else
have a rv free for all - well the big ruby players - the mega active players and the strong alliances will simply claim everything - declare and farm castles and there are a lot of players who will lose what they have. the game is skewed not because of rv fair play rules imposed - but because the game allow the wealthy to buy multiple armies and kit which makes them virtually unstoppable. literally a couple of players could rip some of our lesser teams up for breakfast and that doesn't sit with the game origins.
I'm nor saying the set up is perfect but its a better game than a free for all
have a rv free for all - well the big ruby players - the mega active players and the strong alliances will simply claim everything - declare and farm castles and there are a lot of players who will lose what they have. the game is skewed not because of rv fair play rules imposed - but because the game allow the wealthy to buy multiple armies and kit which makes them virtually unstoppable. literally a couple of players could rip some of our lesser teams up for breakfast and that doesn't sit with the game origins.
I'm nor saying the set up is perfect but its a better game than a free for all
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TurtleHunter (AU1) [AU1]
:: July 2, 2016, 7:56 a.m.
well said @serpentine (GB1) lol
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Klingon (RO1) [None]
:: July 2, 2016, 8:35 a.m.
enough to limit the rv u can own ... saw that on other games
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Wilson Wang (AU1) [None]
:: July 2, 2016, 9:14 a.m.
It's is very possible to take rv's even if you in a 1 man alliance, just loot, loot, loot, soon enough, you'll have lot's of 80% speed comm's from legendary pieces with a couple of upgrades. I got 4 speed comm done before I became a ruby buyer, so stop whining about not able to get rv's it is very possible to get them while not a ruby buyer!!!
And regarding the topic, multiple players will leave after people start taking there rv's, I would much rather endless events then having to claim back rv's 24/7.
And regarding the topic, multiple players will leave after people start taking there rv's, I would much rather endless events then having to claim back rv's 24/7.
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Klingon (RO1) [None]
:: July 2, 2016, 9:48 a.m.
i know, i had 4 (spawned in first 3 days after unlocking kingdom) then someone stoled em, no way to take it back he being from a very strong alliance.
isnt only that, is about almost unlimited troops u can keep.
isnt only that, is about almost unlimited troops u can keep.
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PowerfullyNix (AU1) [AU1]
:: July 2, 2016, 1:39 p.m.
Hi Every1,
Is this still the RV anonymity, idea, we have been talking about this a little in our alliance chat.
It would be a game n logistical hassle, imagine all the rv battles happening all the time, crazy, we play this game to enjoy n have fun, the occasional battle or more depending on how u play, however this RVanonymity would be constant RV battles, that would be a headache.
have a great day/night xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
Is this still the RV anonymity, idea, we have been talking about this a little in our alliance chat.
It would be a game n logistical hassle, imagine all the rv battles happening all the time, crazy, we play this game to enjoy n have fun, the occasional battle or more depending on how u play, however this RVanonymity would be constant RV battles, that would be a headache.
have a great day/night xoxoxo Nix xoxoxo
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mr..negative (GB1) [None]
:: July 5, 2016, 5:54 p.m.
i agree with the person above making rvs anonymous would be a nightmare because everyone will be trying to take them every five minutes and then the point of rvs would gone as no one would have them long enugh to gain any benefit form them.
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JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None]
:: July 6, 2016, 9:02 a.m.
@perryl (US1)
Hey mate I can finally log onto the forums.... I stopped reading at page 3, so may have missed a bit.
One thing I will point out, all these rules are SERVER rules. They are not game rules, these things get added to the game by the developers to add a certain aspect to it. Reality is once we/players figure it out we want some form of control over the asset etc and put in rules to determine/monopolise the outcome. If you put something like this in and go, OK, no war, and you get all the big alliances to sign off on it they would only do so so that they benifit, IE: those 7 RV's you have wont be yours for long.
As soon as anyone near me takes an RV I will hit that person every 3 hours in every castle everywhere constantly. No war, but it wont stop me doign it, let me guess you want a no fires rule as well to protect you once your capping my RV's? As soon as your a mid level player in a smaller alliance and a mid level player from a larger alliance spawns next to you in the outters, those RV's become his, because no rules about them and if you try to take them god help you you will get shat on by the whole alliance, why, its a team based game in this respect.
You want to get rid of one player made rules, get rid of them all. When you complain about bullying etc and the whole alliance you are in is burning cause I could then you dont get to complain about the RV rules. I got all of mine in FP through spawns, I waited for ages to go to get them, in BS I have got about 6-7?? for RV's through spawns as well, others passed on. But I spent rubies on those, you want to come and take them where I spend 800 rubies before feathers 3 or 4 times to get one RV because others were faster and have no repurcussions your dreaming.
Personally, GGE cant get rid of the server made rules. But they are made by the strongest to suit the strongest, this is the truth. You get rid of them the strongest will still get the RV's. You challenge them for those RV's and you will get trashed in return.
I like getting rid of the rules in place on the server, I dont think many would like the consequences, all sorts of bullshit accusations would fly how its unfair when as perry said, your alliance has every RV dropped just cause we can and we start defending our own.
Activity wins, if your not active you dont win, thats how no rules would work, sure you may get me a few times, but my alliance has my phone number and ill be commign back alot harder. Then all of a sudden the same rules are put in place because its not worth pissing off a bigger alliance that gets more free demons than you cause it hurts too much.
My 2 cents, you need to be realistic about the outcomes of removing the rules.
Hey mate I can finally log onto the forums.... I stopped reading at page 3, so may have missed a bit.
One thing I will point out, all these rules are SERVER rules. They are not game rules, these things get added to the game by the developers to add a certain aspect to it. Reality is once we/players figure it out we want some form of control over the asset etc and put in rules to determine/monopolise the outcome. If you put something like this in and go, OK, no war, and you get all the big alliances to sign off on it they would only do so so that they benifit, IE: those 7 RV's you have wont be yours for long.
As soon as anyone near me takes an RV I will hit that person every 3 hours in every castle everywhere constantly. No war, but it wont stop me doign it, let me guess you want a no fires rule as well to protect you once your capping my RV's? As soon as your a mid level player in a smaller alliance and a mid level player from a larger alliance spawns next to you in the outters, those RV's become his, because no rules about them and if you try to take them god help you you will get shat on by the whole alliance, why, its a team based game in this respect.
You want to get rid of one player made rules, get rid of them all. When you complain about bullying etc and the whole alliance you are in is burning cause I could then you dont get to complain about the RV rules. I got all of mine in FP through spawns, I waited for ages to go to get them, in BS I have got about 6-7?? for RV's through spawns as well, others passed on. But I spent rubies on those, you want to come and take them where I spend 800 rubies before feathers 3 or 4 times to get one RV because others were faster and have no repurcussions your dreaming.
Personally, GGE cant get rid of the server made rules. But they are made by the strongest to suit the strongest, this is the truth. You get rid of them the strongest will still get the RV's. You challenge them for those RV's and you will get trashed in return.
I like getting rid of the rules in place on the server, I dont think many would like the consequences, all sorts of bullshit accusations would fly how its unfair when as perry said, your alliance has every RV dropped just cause we can and we start defending our own.
Activity wins, if your not active you dont win, thats how no rules would work, sure you may get me a few times, but my alliance has my phone number and ill be commign back alot harder. Then all of a sudden the same rules are put in place because its not worth pissing off a bigger alliance that gets more free demons than you cause it hurts too much.
My 2 cents, you need to be realistic about the outcomes of removing the rules.
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janine2 (INT1) [None]
:: July 6, 2016, 9:51 a.m.
Another suggestion....
How about creating another event like "Royal capital", where the point is to steal eachothers rv's. But all attacks are annonymous? So you can't see who took your rv....
How about creating another event like "Royal capital", where the point is to steal eachothers rv's. But all attacks are annonymous? So you can't see who took your rv....
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JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None]
:: July 6, 2016, 10:02 a.m.
You want another event.... *FACEPALM*janine2 (INT1) said:Another suggestion....
How about creating another event like "Royal capital", where the point is to steal eachothers rv's. But all attacks are annonymous? So you can't see who took your rv....
@perryl (US1) do you think another event is a good idea here ??
BTW, if im short im still taking them all back at the end of the event then whoever pops up with them gets a good burning. You just drop all RV's and cap in the last 2 seconds of the event to make sure you have a stash at the end. You want them come get them, but dont be expecting any reprise when I or any other player comes to take them back.
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: July 6, 2016, 11:22 a.m.
I say, sure. Why not? lmaoJJJJJJSK (AU1) said:You want another event.... *FACEPALM*janine2 (INT1) said:Another suggestion....
How about creating another event like "Royal capital", where the point is to steal eachothers rv's. But all attacks are annonymous? So you can't see who took your rv....
@perryl (US1) do you think another event is a good idea here ??
BTW, if im short im still taking them all back at the end of the event then whoever pops up with them gets a good burning. You just drop all RV's and cap in the last 2 seconds of the event to make sure you have a stash at the end. You want them come get them, but dont be expecting any reprise when I or any other player comes to take them back.
Someone said.. "why don't GGS just give us all events 24/7 and let us pick and choose which one we do". It's heading that way.
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Beral Shak Ur (AU1) [None]
:: July 8, 2016, 11:42 a.m.
In all honesty, I would enjoy this tug of war, taking and retaking of RVs, it does sound enjoyable. However it may get quite dull after a while and become like grinding NPCs, something that I do not always enjoy.Iota (AU1) said:Hey community
Just wanted to post this because its been nagging at my brain for a while.
I've been playing this game for 3 and a half years and I've seen this game go from amazing to somewhat adequate.
Some of you might think I'm putting it lightly because a lot of you on the forums have been throwing a lot of hate at GGS, more now as of late.
However something got me thinking.
I was here way back when the other Kingdoms was introduced, Before the other Kingdoms the game was pretty fun, then came the new kingdoms along with its resource villages and then the game got very interesting.
Suddenly there were new places to experience, more battles to be fought.
Resource villages were everywhere and people were nabbing them up like you could not believe, but there was something different way back then.
People weren't just taking all the RV's, they were also taking them from other players.
Stealing RV's in the day was not an offense that would lead to war.
In fact most people back then were delighting in this apparent tug-of-war that was happening, I enjoyed it thoroughly and I was never butthurt when I lost 3-4 RV's in a single day, because I knew I could without fear of major repercussions attempt to take them back and maybe nab some more.
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Its the same with the resource villages, These were meant to be played with like a nice old game of Tug-of-war.
But we didn't even give those a chance.
An idea came to me, probably a bad idea but an idea nonetheless. Could the resident NPCs in the Ice, Sand and Fire kingdoms not launch attacks on RVs now and then and 'liberate' them from the players? Eh, people will probably hate this.
@CM Popeye; @CM Arcanine; What do you think of it?
@perryl (US1); @Carnifexx (US1); Sorry to bother you two but what do you two think of it?
Note that I have not read past page 1, therefore I have based my response solely on what I have read there.
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perryl (US1) [US1]
:: July 8, 2016, 12:03 p.m.
I think that's an interesting idea. Not something I would enjoy, but would make sense tbh. It might make RVs change hands more. I mean, if someone capped the RV that was taken from you by NPC then you would probably just have to go find another, right? This should result in NPCs owning and defending more RVs.Beral Shak Ur (AU1) said:In all honesty, I would enjoy this tug of war, taking and retaking of RVs, it does sound enjoyable. However it may get quite dull after a while and become like grinding NPCs, something that I do not always enjoy.Iota (AU1) said:Hey community
Just wanted to post this because its been nagging at my brain for a while.
I've been playing this game for 3 and a half years and I've seen this game go from amazing to somewhat adequate.
Some of you might think I'm putting it lightly because a lot of you on the forums have been throwing a lot of hate at GGS, more now as of late.
However something got me thinking.
I was here way back when the other Kingdoms was introduced, Before the other Kingdoms the game was pretty fun, then came the new kingdoms along with its resource villages and then the game got very interesting.
Suddenly there were new places to experience, more battles to be fought.
Resource villages were everywhere and people were nabbing them up like you could not believe, but there was something different way back then.
People weren't just taking all the RV's, they were also taking them from other players.
Stealing RV's in the day was not an offense that would lead to war.
In fact most people back then were delighting in this apparent tug-of-war that was happening, I enjoyed it thoroughly and I was never butthurt when I lost 3-4 RV's in a single day, because I knew I could without fear of major repercussions attempt to take them back and maybe nab some more.
...
Its the same with the resource villages, These were meant to be played with like a nice old game of Tug-of-war.
But we didn't even give those a chance.
An idea came to me, probably a bad idea but an idea nonetheless. Could the resident NPCs in the Ice, Sand and Fire kingdoms not launch attacks on RVs now and then and 'liberate' them from the players? Eh, people will probably hate this.
@CM Popeye; @CM Arcanine; What do you think of it?
@perryl (US1); @Carnifexx (US1); Sorry to bother you two but what do you two think of it?
Note that I have not read past page 1, therefore I have based my response solely on what I have read there.
Could take it a step further and make it so the Dragon captures the RV. lol. Giving it some more power, forcing people to use tools. Slowing down attacks. Make it so people can't use wolves anymore. I guess that there are a lot of ways that you could tweak it.
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Beral Shak Ur (AU1) [None]
:: July 8, 2016, 12:05 p.m.
That is in fact very admirable. The dedication is real. My earlier suggestion would clash with this, I apologise. Thing is, whatever is done, a lot of people will still be extremely put off, and among them dedicated, respectable players who have been playing for years.NoblemanRoss (AU1) said:I for one have worked damn hard to acquire the RV's I have over the four years I have been playing. Hours and hours spent patrolling the edges of the map and then when a spawning occurs, a mad dash to capture one before everyone else beats you to it.
Is it any wonder then that RV "owners" become very possessive of their RV's and alliances go to war when a player comes along and without putting any effort in believes he or she is entitled to one and tries to steal one.