Molson Beer (US1) said:

nottma more like nottmaproblem

TannerM. (US1) said:

abbie24601 (US1) said:

mnight (US1) said:

Happy Anniversary, Mnight

Video of the honeymoon would be more appreciated.  Hint hint

nottma (US1) said:

Hey BigLeno. Noticed you were more active lately. Welcome back. Respect is a two way street. I feel my responses are mild compared to her comments.

abbie24601 (US1) said:

nottma (US1) said:

Hey BigLeno. Noticed you were more active lately. Welcome back. Respect is a two way street. I feel my responses are mild compared to her comments.

The bottom line is you supported KON in their attempt to destroy MISC and FT.  Their/your intention was to take metros, capitals, RVs, KTs, and OPs.  So you coming on here to complain about an OP pisses me off.  

Morentz (US1) said:

Over the past few months, Mnight, Devvin and myself have been speaking to Ladybugs and trying to help SOK leave the war. She didn't have nice things to say about KON - she said they excluded her from discussions, hardly spoke to her, and lied to her repeatedly - most recently when WOK/Kings of Neph merge and KON2/Defcon merged and she had asked whether they were merging and told no.

We put a lot of effort and patience into contacting indy alliances and trying to get SOK a new family to sub to, like you wanted. Despite all the time, effort and favours we used to help SOK - Ladybugs kept changing her mind constantly. Talking with her was like going in circles. She is not a stable individual, and has done more to harm SOK than anyone else.

Recently, Pigsnout was in ruins and his OPs were set to delete soon. Ladybugs kept asking me to let SOK cap them while in the war - I said no. I offered for SOK to leave the war, we'd help them find a new family, and they could cap the OPs.

At first she accepted - then after we spoke to some indies to sub her - she went back on her word, rinse n repeat a few times over the last few months.

She rejected any proposal put forth.

Fast forward to this week - we capped Ladybugs OP. That night, she went on numerous multi accounts (Big JJO, spongemonkey) and was trying to cap my RVs all night, resulting in me having 3hrs sleep. She continued to send rude and nasty PMs from the multi-accounts and blamed me for making her "cheat" and multi.


Later the next day, she sent a peace request and began sending me rude PMs and hurling insults at me...while trying to get peace.


Final terms for SOK leaving the war was that they could not cap Pigsnout's OPs, I see that as a fair and fitting punishment for dicking us around for months, and rejecting that offer when we first made it.

Respect is a 2-way street, and we were shown no respect whatsoever. Now they want to cry about it and write offensive alliance descriptions after leaving the war.

Flehg wiped an OP cap on Pigsnout's OP earlier (screenshot posted by nottma) and SOK's auto-war triggered. And they are blaming us for declaring.... I was also told Ladybugs did NOT tell her alliance the terms I gave regarding not capping Pigsnout's OPs.

I've been calm and polite, while Ladybugs has done nothing but send rude messages, disrespect myself and my alliance in their description, and then pretend to be the victims.

nottma (US1) said:

abbie24601 (US1) said:

nottma (US1) said:

Hey BigLeno. Noticed you were more active lately. Welcome back. Respect is a two way street. I feel my responses are mild compared to her comments.

The bottom line is you supported KON in their attempt to destroy MISC and FT.  Their/your intention was to take metros, capitals, RVs, KTs, and OPs.  So you coming on here to complain about an OP pisses me off.  

I believe both side's intentions were to steal each others things. We already agreed that was the point of the war. As I will re-iterate, the OP issue happened after a peace was already accepted(not during the war). So my intent was to get a public terms of surrender.

As I remember it was Dream Team that attempted to take your metro. That happened early in the war; my memory might be fuzzy there.

nottma (US1) said:

I believe both side's intentions were to steal each others things. We already agreed that was the point of the war. As I will re-iterate, the OP issue happened after a peace was already accepted(not during the war). So my intent was to get a public terms of surrender.

TannerM. (US1) said:

Lol, told her to look up server history then said DT tried taking their metro early in the war.  

I'm neutral, so take my comment for what it is, but you've just lost and surrendered a two year war.  Their "terms" can pretty much change as they see fit as they owe you nothing.  The point she is making is that had you guys won, they would've been wiped out.  You guys lost, and you were still allowed to walk with very few problems.  To complain about one OP being lost is unnecessary as you would've costed them far more if you had the strength and opportunity.  I'd be happy that I was just allowed to talk on the terms they gave you already, even with the OP shenanigans.  

Manatee (US1) said:

It's kind of hard to let go when both parties have a point.

Abbie's points about the war and her reaction to the property issues - fair enough.

Nottma's points about this being an open letter to MISC and not caring much for random people from other alliances commenting on the issue - fair enough.


It's a public forum though, and we all know I've done my share of commenting on things dealing with an alliance other than GK, so I get where Abbie's coming from.
I just don't see why there's an argument between them.  Looks like by that point nottma was trying to be conciliatory in the face of what must be a tough situation for them.

KON or MISC?  Oo

Sir Wins Alot (US1) said:

KON or MISC?  Oo

VeeWeeZY (US1) said:

I also love that you claim alts when Demagorgan is also the lord devil leader of TDL..   Good stuff

Molson Beer (US1) said:

Atticus gave me a drink and I woke up the next morning pregnant with a lizard.

VeeWeeZY (US1) said:

Its over with SOK who cares.  I wish them well