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Board: [941] US Migration Content - PvP
Topic: [322338] Kons new Description
[4604056] Warrior_Lord (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 1:17 a.m.
Wonder if Negan was mad that serry rage moved and she had to follow to keep him from getting rekt
[4604058] GB11 (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 1:18 a.m.



hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah

Heart trying to talk up serry and he can't even move without Negan. smh at this cuck
[4604064] PizzaWarrior5 (US1) (Banned) [None] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 1:25 a.m.

If 18 alliances are dead, Why only 5 decimated?

Only one of them are Misc as well. (Unless d8th is one, idk) Just like Mnight said, Lern2cont
Kon Hostile List
   Hmm, cause TORCHERERS (TM) + MU + TFT = 2 alliances. Heart, Stop eating and go back to school

[4604110] Andrew Milner (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 2:43 a.m.
Deadly (US1) said:
PizzaWarrior5 (US1) said:

If 18 alliances are dead, Why only 5 decimated?

Only one of them are Misc as well. (Unless d8th is one, idk) Just like Mnight said, Lern2cont
Kon Hostile List
   Hmm, cause TORCHERERS (TM) + MU + TFT = 2 alliances. Heart, Stop eating and go back to school

I don't think TFT counts :neutral:
Can confirm, its not like they have our name up there with misc and misc u which clearly adds up to 3 but hey im not going to complain about kon math, we always knew it wasnt there strong point.
[4604119] VeeWeeZY (US1) [None] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 3:04 a.m.
Deadly (US1) said:
Andrew Milner (US1) said:
Deadly (US1) said:
Can confirm, its not like they have our name up there with misc and misc u which clearly adds up to 3 but hey im not going to complain about kon math, we always knew it wasnt there strong point.
THE MISC (1) + MISC: United (1) + TFT (0) = 2

As to why TFT is 0, the amount of resources acquired from farms in TFT balance the harm done to KON by the few who attack.

Do you see now? It's because of you, Potato Overlord.
I cant seem to find you on the map yet you have much input into this thread.
[4604120] abbie24601 (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 3:06 a.m.
Deadly (US1) said:

@abbie24601 (US1) There was a coalition in the works. I know that much, from the experience of being in at least two of the alliances that were recruited to try and take down KON.

I have so many questions....

So you're telling me you were playing over two years ago, and in those two years, have now advanced all the way to Level 17?

What two alliances were you in that were recruited to take down KON as part of this coalition?

I'm pretty sure TM helped KON win storm right before the Halloween attacks began. Why would they do that if they were trying to overthrow them?

Are you aware of the screenshots of Serry admitting he knew that TM wasn't trying to overthrow KON?
Deadly (US1) said:
Even so, I don't think it would be a stretch to call the opposing "families" a weak coalition of alliances. When it came to war with KON and allies, they fell apart and left almost instantly. They were weaker in all aspects. There were exceptions, but from my view, it was a coalition of players poorly led going against a machine of war, ready to fight for KON. All these go to show the amount strength, organization, and loyalty that was present within the KON family, when compared to other "families," in my opinion.


Define weaker.  We didn't spend near the amount of rubies KON did and we were outnumbered 30 to 1. (I don't know the exact numbers, but it was drastic.)
[4604122] abbie24601 (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 3:11 a.m.
Deadly (US1) said:

THE MISC (1) + MISC: United (1) + TFT (0) = 2

As to why TFT is 0, the amount of resources acquired from farms in TFT balance the harm done to KON by the few who attack.


How many resources does it take to balance the harm done by taking a KT?
[4604124] curlbrah (US1) [None] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 3:15 a.m.
LOL at Kon


[4604132] Andrew Milner (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 3:38 a.m.
Deadly (US1) said:
Andrew Milner (US1) said:
Deadly (US1) said:
Can confirm, its not like they have our name up there with misc and misc u which clearly adds up to 3 but hey im not going to complain about kon math, we always knew it wasnt there strong point.
THE MISC (1) + MISC: United (1) + TFT (0) = 2

As to why TFT is 0, the amount of resources acquired from farms in TFT balance the harm done to KON by the few who attack.

Do you see now? It's because of you, Potato Overlord.
Negative, by having the Potato Overlord in the alliance makes it a +10 and with the amount of troops and my kt makes the harm far more than the few sauces kon gets from us.

Btw how would a level 17 know anything about the level of harm we do? I spy an alt.
[4604134] Molson Beer (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 3:51 a.m.
Hey DPLegendary how's Inferno Soul
[4604136] Molson Beer (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 4:06 a.m.
I was in HIVE with Inferno and he was a fucking asshole. Also you were leading The Black Forge at one point, and I pretty much owned all of Black Flag. Also yeah I was in asia 
[4604145] GB11 (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 4:50 a.m.
Deadly (US1) said:

By weaker, I mean more lacking in the qualities I mentioned: loyalty, organization, strength (troops, commanders, etc.)
I'm interested where the logic is when you come up with these qualities. The loyalty part is hilarious. KoN is made up primarily of players who weren't even in the KoN family when the war started. Their best player is someone who came over from their enemy. There is no loyalty in kon, and a lot of their problems start because KoN main leadership treats/treated their subs so badly.

I'll give you that they had better commanders and spent way more rubies. But that is cancelled out by our sides strategies. The Misc has always had the best strategies when it comes to war, and thats why we have never lost a war. 

KoN main has had the luxury of sitting back and relying on their subs/allies to do much of the work so they could focus on events. They won't like being the focus now. Hell, a couple of players have already gone on the bird lol
[4604212] YesIlift (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 7:29 a.m.
Serry and his potato ceos are still using attack setups we gave them 3+ years ago.

Goes to show how much they actually understand the game :3
[4604339] BW32 (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 11:08 a.m.
Deadly (US1) said:

Look here. KON declared war on enemy. Enemy fell apart, due to a lack of:

1) Strength - alliances like Crazy Ones fought until they were crushed. KON simply outgunned them.

2) Organization - KON family systematically eliminated large numbers of alliances at a time through coordinated attacks. The opposing side could not pull off a similar feat with their sub alliances.

3) Loyalty - KON's sub alliances stuck around for nearly 2 years, whereas you had dozen(s) of alliances on your side abandoning ship on the first deadline.

Both sides have highly loyal players. Both sides have strong players. Both sides are organized. I'm saying that, with respects to their size, KON was by far the most effective in establishing strength, loyalty, and organization among its family - to the point where it took 2 years for you to do what they did in 6 months, in regards to sub alliance reduction.

(my own thoughts, as a spectator)



You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, stop posting.
[4604422] We_Ner (US1) [None] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 1:24 p.m.
Wow this Deadly guy is all twisted around ass backwards. Thats some serious Kool Aid you been drinking.  Guess someones gotta try and talk up a group of beaten ruby players.
This whole thing is very simple. KON has lost the war and lost a long time ago. Lets look the points here.

-First they tried to war MISC to steal some property to add to their team, this was the main objective and it has utterly failed. It cannot be pulled off anymore period.
-Second all your friends and family got tired of you trying to scare them with war and left. They realized KON cant hurt them anymore than they can hurt others. And being wrecked and farmed daily by someone else sucks. More so when you dont know why and dont care about said war.

So as far as i know when YOU start a war, FAIL your main objective, LOSE all your family and allies, and get your troops WRECKED on a daily basis you have LOST your war.

Just cause you've turtled all the family property in main branch with a bunch of ruby whales doesn't mean your powerful Just means your left on an island by yourself. KON main branch has about as many original players left in it as fingers on my left hand. The ones that have left subs/main are very upset about what they were promised so even after this skirmish is over your name has been trashed. We got one whos still pissed at how much money they wasted helping you fail. Your current players arent welcome anywhere else that i know of, including DT and you have no friends left to fight for you. Stabbing people in the back comes back and bites you in the ass eh?? All in all that to me looks like a loss of a war. Id love for someone to show me how these points equate to KON doing well.......

[4604431] abbie24601 (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 1:34 p.m.
Deadly (US1) said:

Look here. KON declared war on enemy. Enemy fell apart, due to a lack of:

1) Strength 

2) Organization 

3) Loyalty 


1) Strength - KON spent more rubies and was 30 times bigger than we were.  We shouldn't have been able to defeat them at all.  The fact that we did speaks for itself (whether it took 6 months, 2 years, or 20 years).  If a smaller force defeats a larger force it's either because they are stronger or because they are smarter.  

2) Organization - In order to consider organization a valuable wartime attribute, it must be accurate and effective. Go look at KON's spreadsheet.  It's very organized, but there are still only three left.

3) Loyalty - Loyalty is sticking around even when the going gets tough.  Loyalty is knowing why you fight and believing in your cause.  What you saw from KON subs wasn't loyalty... It was self-interest, fear, or ignorance.  

[4604510] Heartnoir (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 4:16 p.m.
We_Ner (US1) said:
Wow this Deadly guy is all twisted around ass backwards. Thats some serious Kool Aid you been drinking.  Guess someones gotta try and talk up a group of beaten ruby players.
This whole thing is very simple. KON has lost the war and lost a long time ago. Lets look the points here.

-First they tried to war MISC to steal some property to add to their team, this was the main objective and it has utterly failed. It cannot be pulled off anymore period.
-Second all your friends and family got tired of you trying to scare them with war and left. They realized KON cant hurt them anymore than they can hurt others. And being wrecked and farmed daily by someone else sucks. More so when you dont know why and dont care about said war.

So as far as i know when YOU start a war, FAIL your main objective, LOSE all your family and allies, and get your troops WRECKED on a daily basis you have LOST your war.

Just cause you've turtled all the family property in main branch with a bunch of ruby whales doesn't mean your powerful Just means your left on an island by yourself. KON main branch has about as many original players left in it as fingers on my left hand. The ones that have left subs/main are very upset about what they were promised so even after this skirmish is over your name has been trashed. We got one whos still pissed at how much money they wasted helping you fail. Your current players arent welcome anywhere else that i know of, including DT and you have no friends left to fight for you. Stabbing people in the back comes back and bites you in the ass eh?? All in all that to me looks like a loss of a war. Id love for someone to show me how these points equate to KON doing well.......

I'm afraid you're the one that's all twisted around. First, KoN never initiated this war to "steal some property". You've sipped long and hard at the MISC Kool-Aid. This is a convenient story that MISC has passed along for so long that apparently it has acquired the trappings of truth - at least for those unable to use the most basic logic or recall the actions that brought the war about in the first place. It's a convenient story since it absolves Morry of any culpability.

In regard to your first point:
The fact is KoN was under threat  at the time from a nebulous coalition of alliances that were threatening harm. We were confident that MISC would stand by us as we had stood with them, to the point of jumping in with HIVE and D8 to help them. Imagine our surprise to learn that Morry had taken some obviously faked Chatzy logs (KoN never has used Chatzy as a method of communicating and Morry and Mnight knew that very well) as evidence that we were going to jump them. Rather than any of MISC leadership coming to us to discuss their concerns (misplaced as they were) Morry chose to go to Geoloop with obvious precursors to war. Unlike the obviously faked Chatzy screens, the information Geoloop provided was straight from the horse's mouth and indicative that we could no longer rely on MISC and in fact could expect MISC to join in with others to jump us. As is the case in war, we made the decision that we would strike preemptively. Simple as that. Don't mistake the aspirations of former allies or subs in regard to property for an objective or a catalyst for this war.

In regard to your second point:
Where in the world do you interpret allies or subs leaving as indicative of "they got tired of KoN trying to scare them with war" @Manatee (US1) Please respond. Each alliance or sub made a decision to leave for their own reasons. For you to paint this nonsense about fear from KoN as a reason to jump in the war or leave is absurd.

Finally, our property for the most part is exactly where it has been (in main or KoN2) since the beginning of the war) with the exceptions of metros or towers that came along with sub players joining into main. If you want to describe that as "turtleing" property then great. Don't see what that has to do with anything. As for original KoN players, so what, players come and go in a period of 2 years. The half life on this game can be fairly brief. Players move on - real life interferes. How many original players are left in MISC, in DT? All of the older alliances lose players. What is an alliance to do? Close entry to any new players because they aren't "original players." That's absurd.

As for the "we  got one who is still pissed about money spent":1. No one can make anyone spend money on this game. You spend your own money for your own purposes. 2.Be careful putting words in other player's mouth's. You seem to have a habit of coming on here  and stating your opinions as fact without any credible evidence.  Are there any DT players who are upset about spending money helping MISC? Why did DT choose to end their participation in the war. Isn't one reason because it was obvious that MISC would not be able to achieve their objectives - which Morry has made quite clear in this thread already in regard to KoN property.

Finally, @billdo09 (US1)  - it's interesting to see that We_Ner speaks for you in regard to who is and isn't welcome in DT.
[4604529] abbie24601 (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 4:47 p.m.
Heartnoir (US1) said:

The fact is KoN was under threat  at the time from a nebulous coalition of alliances that were threatening harm.... we made the decision that we would strike preemptively. Simple as that. 


So bc KON was being threatened, you decided to strike first and eventually do to yourself the very thing you feared the "nebulous coalition" would do... destroy the KON family.  Great plan.

There was no threat.  Serry got paranoid.  Your refusal to admit to that fact is the reason you're in the position you're in today.

Heartnoir (US1) said:
Where in the world do you interpret allies or subs leaving as indicative of "they got tired of KoN trying to scare them with war"  


This seems like a good clue...


[4604530] TannerM. (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 4:49 p.m.
"We worship our lord and savior, Tanner. You can also worship Hanzolo."

Other way around @Deadly (US1).  While I'd like to take credit as our god king, I am but an alternative to the great Hanzolo.  
[4604537] Andrew Milner (US1) [US1] :: Oct. 30, 2016, 5:01 p.m.
Heartnoir (US1) said:
We_Ner (US1) said:
Wow this Deadly guy is all twisted around ass backwards. Thats some serious Kool Aid you been drinking.  Guess someones gotta try and talk up a group of beaten ruby players.
This whole thing is very simple. KON has lost the war and lost a long time ago. Lets look the points here.

-First they tried to war MISC to steal some property to add to their team, this was the main objective and it has utterly failed. It cannot be pulled off anymore period.
-Second all your friends and family got tired of you trying to scare them with war and left. They realized KON cant hurt them anymore than they can hurt others. And being wrecked and farmed daily by someone else sucks. More so when you dont know why and dont care about said war.

So as far as i know when YOU start a war, FAIL your main objective, LOSE all your family and allies, and get your troops WRECKED on a daily basis you have LOST your war.

Just cause you've turtled all the family property in main branch with a bunch of ruby whales doesn't mean your powerful Just means your left on an island by yourself. KON main branch has about as many original players left in it as fingers on my left hand. The ones that have left subs/main are very upset about what they were promised so even after this skirmish is over your name has been trashed. We got one whos still pissed at how much money they wasted helping you fail. Your current players arent welcome anywhere else that i know of, including DT and you have no friends left to fight for you. Stabbing people in the back comes back and bites you in the ass eh?? All in all that to me looks like a loss of a war. Id love for someone to show me how these points equate to KON doing well.......

 
In regard to your first point:
The fact is KoN was under threat  at the time from a nebulous coalition of alliances that were threatening harm. We were confident that MISC would stand by us as we had stood with them, to the point of jumping in with HIVE and D8 to help them. Imagine our surprise to learn that Morry had taken some obviously faked Chatzy logs (KoN never has used Chatzy as a method of communicating and Morry and Mnight knew that very well) as evidence that we were going to jump them. Rather than any of MISC leadership coming to us to discuss their concerns (misplaced as they were) Morry chose to go to Geoloop with obvious precursors to war. Unlike the obviously faked Chatzy screens, the information Geoloop provided was straight from the horse's mouth and indicative that we could no longer rely on MISC and in fact could expect MISC to join in with others to jump us. As is the case in war, we made the decision that we would strike preemptively. Simple as that. Don't mistake the aspirations of former allies or subs in regard to property for an objective or a catalyst for this war.

So since Misc didnt take their concerns to you and talk to you, which lead you guys to believe misc was planning to war kon, you choose to jump misc rather than approach them like a friend should which you say misc should of done in the first place? So you blame misc for not approaching you when they thought you wanted to war them and when you heard they wanted to war you it was perfectly fine for you to jump misc on Halloween? Just want to clear up any misunderstanding.