Forum: empire-en

Board: [941] US Migration Content - PvP

Topic: [325528] Kon Alliance Desription

[-325528] Keenanxbox (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 17, 2016, 9:44 p.m.

Any Arguments? No thought so.

[4636363] Diaper Boy (US1) [None] :: Dec. 17, 2016, 9:57 p.m.

10/10 desc

[4636368] abbie24601 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 17, 2016, 9:59 p.m.

it's not as bad as the last one, but that's a very low bar.  

he mentioned the forum again, which tells me that he's preoccupied with the forum despite his claims to the contrary.  in my experience, people don't repeatedly bring up topics they don't care about.... they repeatedly bring up topics that are deeply important to them. 

you going to post all the battle reports for us?  hitting your own allies again?

[4636381] abbie24601 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 17, 2016, 10:28 p.m.

i feel sure that TM and MU aren't going outside the war for glory targets.  

[4636390] Tempus (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 17, 2016, 11:12 p.m.

Tl;dr of KoN new desc:

Computers are bad

Serry is only person allowed to pop gates 

[4636525] Keenanxbox (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 6:35 a.m.

YOU GUYS CANT EVEN GO OUT OF THE WAR TO HIT YOU GUYS ARE ASSCHEEKS DEADASSS

[4636526] PantSniffer9000 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 6:42 a.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

THE MISC uses bots to compete.

WOW!

I can confirm, I am WOW.

[4636729] GB11 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 4:33 p.m.

What a stupid post. We don't care at all about the alliance tourney. We aren't going to go outside the war to hit targets that don't matter to us. Just look at the messages KoN2 is sending around to people lmao. Maybe if you guys put in half the effort of hitting indies that have no relevance in the war, you wouldn't be down to one sub and wouldn't have as many birds in your alliance. 

Srs question, does anyone think the alliance tourney actually shows how good an alliance is?

[4636742] GB11 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 4:51 p.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

@GB11 (US1) They don't hit you because you dodge, fire-cast, and tool-break the vast majority of attacks, yes? You do this because you don't have the capacity to defend against KON, yes?

I wouldn't hit you either if that were the case; events and other things like that would be far more profitable than losing 100 armorer tools to take out some armed militia.

Uwotm8?

You don't think we don't have the capacity to defend against kon? Have you not seen the battle reports thread? Multiple times there has been reports of defense. Just the other day KoN2 went full blown potato and hit some of our players and got wrecked. Now I'm not saying that we don't firecast hits. We've been doing that all war. We created the firecast. And KoN always used to complain about that.

BUT, KoN is now doing the EXACT same thing we have done all war. Look at the message that KoN2 sent out. They aren't defending at all. KoN main is doing the same thing. Hell, I've hit Heartnoir 15+ times the past few weeks and she has popped gates every single time. It's comical that Serry is "challenging" us to compete in the alliance tourney by hitting indies that have no relevance to our desire in the war, and then KoN main and KoN2, the alliances that actually matter to us, both aren't defending any hits at all. Strong logic.  

[4636763] VeeWeeZY (US1) [None] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 5:25 p.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

Sorry I should have clarified. What I meant to say is, "You don't have the capacity to consistently defend against KON," which is why the fire-cast helps out so well. It allows you to not defend and suffer virtually zero consequences. This applies to everyone who uses it, of course, but I assume that it's more prominent in THE MISC than in KON. For the reason that you simply won't defend, KON won't get glory for the AT if you're they're only target. If that's why Serry challenged you to hit others outside of the war, then that's probably why. It gives a better view of who has a greater capacity to destroy troops and pull big numbers.

Personally, I don't think THE MISC is avoiding conflict with indy alliances because they respect those alliance's non-involvement so much as they want to "win over" the server and be portrayed as the good guys.

Level 35 with no ops and no alliance mates,  Who cares what you think.

[4636766] Keenanxbox (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 5:31 p.m.

that level 35 just ended your life and you said some rude shit cause you were so butthurt

[4636769] Warrior_Lord (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 5:35 p.m.

Keenanxbox (US1) said:

that level 35 just ended your life and you said some rude shit cause you were so butthurt

that level 35 posts are potato asf lol, don't get excited keenan

[4636778] GB11 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 5:45 p.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

Sorry I should have clarified. What I meant to say is, "You don't have the capacity to consistently defend against KON," which is why the fire-cast helps out so well. It allows you to not defend and suffer virtually zero consequences. This applies to everyone who uses it, of course, but I assume that it's more prominent in THE MISC than in KON. For the reason that you simply won't defend, KON won't get glory for the AT if you're they're only target. If Serry challenged you to hit others outside of the war, then this might be the reason. It gives a better understanding of who has a greater capacity to destroy troops and pull big numbers.

Personally, I don't think THE MISC is avoiding conflict with indy alliances because they respect those alliance's non-involvement so much as they want to "win over" the server and be portrayed as the good guys.

It has nothing to do with respect. I've already said why we have no desire to hit indies. Our main focus is the server war and the people that are in it. It's been like that since the war started.

And lmao at saying we use a firecast more than KoN. You realize we barely see any attacks from KoN right? Maybe that's because we have used the firecasts and they don't see a point in hitting, but if we have managed to neutralize their attacks so much that they don't even send anymore and decide to just let their troops get wrecked by our attacks, it shows just how incompetent they are and how horrible they are at war tactics.

[4636779] Warrior_Lord (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 5:46 p.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

dragon rider72 (US1) said:
that level 35 posts are potato asf lol, don't get excited keenan

Hi dragon. Yes, my posts aren't as hard-hitting, so to speak, as others'. But that's due to my limited ability

Respond to the ideas and not the way they're presented please.

Hard to debate war strategies with someone thats never been in a war.  Is all the info you have gathered off kons descrips?

[4636786] VeeWeeZY (US1) [None] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 5:53 p.m.

Keenanxbox (US1) said:

that level 35 just ended your life and you said some rude shit cause you were so butthurt

You even play anymore or just troll the forum?

[4636792] VeeWeeZY (US1) [None] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 5:58 p.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

VeeWeeZY (US1) said:

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

Sorry I should have clarified. What I meant to say is, "You don't have the capacity to consistently defend against KON," which is why the fire-cast helps out so well. It allows you to not defend and suffer virtually zero consequences. This applies to everyone who uses it, of course, but I assume that it's more prominent in THE MISC than in KON. For the reason that you simply won't defend, KON won't get glory for the AT if you're they're only target. If that's why Serry challenged you to hit others outside of the war, then that's probably why. It gives a better view of who has a greater capacity to destroy troops and pull big numbers.

Personally, I don't think THE MISC is avoiding conflict with indy alliances because they respect those alliance's non-involvement so much as they want to "win over" the server and be portrayed as the good guys.

Level 35 with no ops and no alliance mates,  Who cares what you think.

You cared enough to look me up in-game and respond.

Mate, I'm trying to have a discussion with GB11 and maybe even be enlightened to the way of THE MISC. If you've nothing of substance to add, kindly keep quiet. Or is it MISC's policy to mock and dismiss those who might not necessarily be on their bandwagon?

What's a VeeWeeZY anyway?

Sorry if my response wasnt to your liking.  Im just assuming that you will be sending toolwasters and capture attacks at us soon like so many low level players that seem to have no stake in the fight.  Strange things happen these days.  When we took a KON KT  suddenly a whole bunch of low level players moved around it with names similar to our players.  Bad assumption maybe.

[4636803] Tempus (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 6:13 p.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

VeeWeeZY (US1) said:

Sorry if my response wasnt to your liking.  Im just assuming that you will be sending toolwasters and capture attacks at us soon like so many low level players that seem to have no stake in the fight.  Strange things happen these days.  When we took a KON KT  suddenly a whole bunch of low level players moved around it with names similar to our players.  Bad assumption maybe.

Don't worry; I'm not scheduled to send tool-wasters yet. We will cross that bridge when we get there

In case you get lost looking for the KoN bridge, here it is:

[4636806] ψ Sadness ψ (US1) [None] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 6:16 p.m.

@Deadly Tenebris (US1)

What you said earlier of Misc not hitting indies to look good was false, and I don't blame you for seeing it that way with limited knowledge.

Mind you I'd like to give you warning, taking a forum stance against any alliance will normally have you being bombarded hard. Next time try to use the PM system.

In answer to your question as far as I see it, the MISC has no political agenda in not hitting the indies. We do not choose to not hit indies to look good, because who cares what others think?

In fact I believe you have it in the opposite sense, they do it BECAUSE they respect indies. I've been in many a 100 person skype room with  leaders across the server including Morentz where he has not started any disrespectful conflict with anyone. In fact he's quite hilarious and has multiple good relations with large alliances like Camelot Beasts, (happy belated birthday @Mr.assassin2 (US1)), The Iron Empire, Good Company, and maaannnny others. 

At the end of the day, It is a strategy game. The strategies misc used and invented to fight in the war are nothing but genius. You can call them cheap or means of an alternate way of playing, but they're not only highly elite but have become the social norm of all servers. 

There's respect and honor, and then there's intelligence. Some times it's smarter to run away or firecast. Sometimes its smarter to defend and look strong. They do not make fun of KoN because they do the same things, they make fun of KoN because KoN preaches about how they hate how we firecast, how they hate how we do not defend, and marks it up as us being Inactive or Potatoes (of which I am one on usa). Now this wouldn't be a bad thing. In fact our argument against that is so what?  It's winning right? It's when you take such a hardset stance on a topic and then go out and do the VERY SAME THING that you are marked up as a total dumbass.

If it's such a waste of time in your eyes why do it? Why become the hypocrite? This too wouldn't be a problem if KoN would at the very least admit to it and stop trying to hide everything.

If you're going to argue, stand by your argument. If you're going to be a hypocrite, say so beforehand.

At the least you must admit The MISC is honest. Even if they go about it in a more aggressive manor.

I use they and us because I am not reallllly a miscer. I'm in misc united and I fight KoN but I'm not family. I'm just here to help

I hope that answers any and all questions. I don't speak for the MISC but hey i sees it how it is mah niqq

[4636807] Warrior_Lord (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 6:20 p.m.

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

dragon rider72 (US1) said:

Deadly Tenebris (US1) said:

dragon rider72 (US1) said:
that level 35 posts are potato asf lol, don't get excited keenan

Hi dragon. Yes, my posts aren't as hard-hitting, so to speak, as others'. But that's due to my limited ability

Respond to the ideas and not the way they're presented please.

Hard to debate war strategies with someone thats never been in a war.  Is all the info you have gathered off kons descrips?

War strategies? Like using bots to stay afloat?

So I'm right that you get your info straight from kons descrips

[4636808] Mr.assassin2 (US1) [None] :: Dec. 18, 2016, 6:23 p.m.

TL;DR